Vaporizing the Bolshoi

I'm afraid neither of you will get a response, or at least a response to what you are pointing out or asking.

This poster's MO is to ignore things they they've been called out on. You'll be answered by another wall of text that has nothing to do with what either of you asked, or he will push on like he was never called out on things.

Don't worry however. Most of the ATS members that bother to read these threads, see that and understand he's dodging the questions because any answer will just continue to trash his credibility.

You can keep asking of course. I've had several questions that have been completely ignored, the subject changed, or as I said, a wall of text that said nothing.

Of course, one could always hope for a miracle.....

reply to post by eriktheawful

Don't worry however. Most of the ATS members that bother to read these threads, see that and understand he's dodging the questions because any answer will just continue to trash his credibility.

I'm not posting for decisively; he knows he's a fraud. I'm not posting for the regular ATS membership; they know he's a fraud. I'm posting for the benefit of the few people who have landed here because they have fallen for decisively's "google bomb." Folks, he's a fraud.

I realize there isn't likely gojng to be an answer given but if he can continuously post the same regurtitated material over and over why cant I? I'm not educated enough on the topic to discuss any of the technical aspects and in any case the regulars are doing a phenomenal already.

Im only in it now to see the eventual explosion or confession that is inevitable. As much fiction as decisive is writing its bound to get to the point where even he has to say OK now it's obvious. Reckoning it might be a long ride though.

Originally posted by Gibborium

Originally posted by decisively
reply to post by sputniksteve

 

No matter "where" I post, I mop cislunar space with the lying heinies of the PERPS

The day NASA actually takes me on with their own docs is the day Apollo officially dies, and everyone knows this and so they stall. Tisk tisk tisk, stall all you like. I am young, fit, and can write circles around my detractors. I have TRUTH on my side. The true Apollo narrative is written in these pages. I create my public record, explicitly naming the PERPS. Pretty amazing really, the first of its kind, groundbreaking Apollo history, right here in the ATS Skunk Works. .

Oops, I see a Freudian slip here. "I am young, fit, and can write circles around my detractors". What happened to your 30 years of practicing medicine? Let's see, in the USA kids graduate high school at the ages of 17 to 19. If we take the youngest age, 17 and add 4 years of undergraduate school, 4 years of medical school, and 3 to 8 years of Internship, that would make you at the youngest, 58 years old. At the oldest, you would be pushing 65 years of age. How does that equate to young?

Hi Decisive you seemed to have missed this important question.

I doubt whether he will rescind/concede/withdraw anything. 'decisively' has played this same game at numerous forums - he has happily admitted that. About the only that has changed with each new iteration (apart from his multiple personalities) is that he seems to have dropped the sockpuppeting - I guess that got him banned too quickly (- at least he learnt something...). The only thing that stopped him at those forums was being banned

If you are interested, you will find his trail of silliness at the following forums:
Bad Astronomy & Universe Today Forum (bautforum.com) as DoctorTea, MaryB, HighGain, BFischer, BSpassky, dastardly and others
James Randi Educational Forum (forums.randi.org) as Patrick1000
ApolloHoax Forum (apollohoax.net/forum) as fattydash, piersquared, mvinson and others

As has been seen here and at the above forums, he often masquerades as a person with a disability, as a woman, and as a 'Doctor', but of course each of these identities is quickly busted - he seems to forget who he is at times, hence his change from his posts here starting as the foul-mouthed boy with a sextant who needed his sister and friends Charlie and Timmy to help him out, through to the doctor he now claims he is (and proves he isn't with his patently obvious lack of knowledge).


I *almost* feel sorry for him - what sort of a life must you have, and what would cause the level of intense hatred for those heroes who pulled off what is, imo, mankind's greatest technological achievement?

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by eriktheawful

 

Don't worry however. Most of the ATS members that bother to read these threads, see that and understand he's dodging the questions because any answer will just continue to trash his credibility.

I'm not posting for decisively; he knows he's a fraud. I'm not posting for the regular ATS membership; they know he's a fraud. I'm posting for the benefit of the few people who have landed here because they have fallen for decisively's "google bomb." Folks, he's a fraud.

Your pitiful response is that decisively made a "google bomb"???

Yet you seem oblivious to the fact that Richard Nixon & Frank Shakespeare also made an "Apollo Bomb" on television from 1969 to 1972?

Isn't it great that US tax dollars were spent trying to convince third world countries that fake moon landings were real? And giving fake moon rocks to third world dictators is part of Nixon's "Apollo Bomb" of space propaganda.


Yet you accused ATS decisively of being a fraud for using the same tactics that Nixon used in 1969-1972.



You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know that Westinghouse and NASA had conspired to ditch the $17 million dollars worth of black & white cameras before the Apollo 12 mission because they said they wanted to do color Tv shows instead.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know that ILC Dover (maker of Apollo space suits) was owned by Israeli-American dual citizen Meshulam Riklis who was a big campaign donor to Richard Nixon.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when RN's best friend held $100,000 in cash in his safe and the money came from Howard Hughes.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you are well aware that Frank Borman was a mission oriented, military puppet, who would never jeopardize his Apollo 8 mission by taking a pill that might make him sick and unable to perform his duties. (I think this is the key understanding of the Borman sickness on Apollo 8).

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know FOR A FACT that Richard Orloff does not list the Apollo 15 Tv press conference in his Apollo 15 narratives because he doesn't want to people to know that the space movie has NO FLOATING OBJECTS.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know FOR A FACT that there are medical miracles at NASA that are too good to be true, Alan Shepard, Deke Slayton, Michael Collins, Jim Irwin. So many medical miracles! It takes a lot of faith to believe so many operations were so successful.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know FOR A FACT that Dr. Charles Berry is a scientologist, a fake quack doctor, he approved Jim Irwin for space flight and he knew about Jim Irwin's abnormal heart history and Jim practically had a heart attack on the moon. He was unconscious.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know FOR A FACT that Alan Shepard was an egomaniac who tried to force himself into the position of Commander for Apollo 13 and YOU KNOW that somebody in Washington D.C. had the final say.

Who was in Washington D.C. pulling the strings on the astronaut assignments. Because you know FOR A FACT that Deke didn't have the final say.

Happy 4th of July ;D

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know that Westinghouse and NASA had conspired to ditch the $17 million dollars worth of black & white cameras before the Apollo 12 mission because they said they wanted to do color Tv shows instead.

No, I accused decisively of being a fraud because he initially claimed to need his sister's help in order to post, then he turned around and claimed to be much lauded for his "style"in his medical writing. Where is your documentation of the decision to do "color TV shows?"

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know that ILC Dover (maker of Apollo space suits) was owned by Israeli-American dual citizen Meshulam Riklis who was a big campaign donor to Richard Nixon.

No, I accused decisively of being a fraud because he claims to be a doctor, but does not know what a differential diagnosis is. Even if the ILC contract were a political favor, it does not prove that the Moon landings did not happen.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when RN's best friend held $100,000 in cash in his safe and the money came from Howard Hughes.

No, I accused decisively of being a fraud because he does not know that the German Measles are not serious, and that in the 1960s most adults were immune. Who cares how Howard Hughes spent his money? It has nothing to do with Apollo.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you are well aware that Frank Borman was a mission oriented, military puppet, who would never jeopardize his Apollo 8 mission by taking a pill that might make him sick and unable to perform his duties. (I think this is the key understanding of the Borman sickness on Apollo 8).

No, I accused decisively of being a fraud because he thinks that young men can get pregnant. I have expained why Borman would feel compelled to take the pill to rule out radiation sickness here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know FOR A FACT that Richard Orloff does not list the Apollo 15 Tv press conference in his Apollo 15 narratives because he doesn't want to people to know that the space movie has NO FLOATING OBJECTS.

No, I accused decisively of being a fraud because claims to be young, then claims to have practiced medicine for over 30 years. You want floating objects? Explain this:

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know FOR A FACT that there are medical miracles at NASA that are too good to be true, Alan Shepard, Deke Slayton, Michael Collins, Jim Irwin. So many medical miracles! It takes a lot of faith to believe so many operations were so successful.

Excellent point! You have brought up the principle reasons it is clear that decisively knows nothing about medicine whatsoever! He does not know the etiology of Shepard's "Menière's Syndrome," he misrepresented the reasons for Slayton not flying on Mercury, I'm not sure what his issue with Collins was (he got hurt and recovered, so what?) and he cannot grasp that an oxygen rich, low gravity environment is the best place for someone with heart problems.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know FOR A FACT that Dr. Charles Berry is a scientologist, a fake quack doctor, he approved Jim Irwin for space flight and he knew about Jim Irwin's abnormal heart history and Jim practically had a heart attack on the moon. He was unconscious.

No, I accused decisively of being a fraud because he considers the most compelling argument is: "The CM didn't have a toilet that flushed, so Apollo is fraudulent." Please provide documentation for your Scientologist statement, or withdraw your claim that it is FACT.

You accused ATS decisively of being a fraud when you know FOR A FACT that Alan Shepard was an egomaniac who tried to force himself into the position of Commander for Apollo 13 and YOU KNOW that somebody in Washington D.C. had the final say.

No, I accused decisively of being a fraud because he issued a challenge for a debate, and when I accepted, he chickened out. Why do you characterize Shepard as being an egomaniac? Are you now subscribing to the decisively school of name calling?

Who was in Washington D.C. pulling the strings on the astronaut assignments. Because you know FOR A FACT that Deke didn't have the final say.

Let me guess... you think that Richard Nixon put Viet Nam, the energy crisis, run away inflation and rioting in the streets on hold in order to micro-manage the space program.

Wait a minute....decisively claims to be a doctor? And has identified eclampsia as a condition in a healthy male that contracts rubella?





That is some funny stuff right there. I was going to go back to sleep this morning, but now I am wide awake and laughing.

Originally posted by Gibborium

Originally posted by decisively
reply to post by sputniksteve

 

No matter "where" I post, I mop cislunar space with the lying heinies of the PERPS

The day NASA actually takes me on with their own docs is the day Apollo officially dies, and everyone knows this and so they stall. Tisk tisk tisk, stall all you like. I am young, fit, and can write circles around my detractors. I have TRUTH on my side. The true Apollo narrative is written in these pages. I create my public record, explicitly naming the PERPS. Pretty amazing really, the first of its kind, groundbreaking Apollo history, right here in the ATS Skunk Works. .

Oops, I see a Freudian slip here. "I am young, fit, and can write circles around my detractors". What happened to your 30 years of practicing medicine? Let's see, in the USA kids graduate high school at the ages of 17 to 19. If we take the youngest age, 17 and add 4 years of undergraduate school, 4 years of medical school, and 3 to 8 years of Internship, that would make you at the youngest, 58 years old. At the oldest, you would be pushing 65 years of age. How does that equate to young?

Hi Decisive you seem to have missed this question.

54 years old and 1000 yards of butterfly without a pause, fit indeed...

reply to post by sputniksteve


I am young and fit. I am 54 years old. I am able to swim 1000 yards of butterfly without a pause. Do you know of anyone who can swim 1000 yards of butterfly without a pause ? Ask around in swimming circles and see what people say.

Young and fit indeed.

Best to you as always

reply to post by decisively

Do you know of anyone who can swim 1000 yards of butterfly without a pause ?

Not without banging their head on the side of the pool!

reply to post by decisively


And you do that while being disabled? Or have you changed your mind about your disability?

Hmm - decisively is such an over achiever that he clearly skipped a few years.. yes, well, that was about equally believable with the rest of his posts.. Like sputniksteve, I applaud him for overcoming his disabilities though - what a transformation we have seen here!

Anyway, I couldn't help thinking of this image at ApolloHoax - the thread itself is also rather apt. By the way at that forum, decisively/dastardly/fattydash/Patrick1000/Bfischer/BSpassky/PaulMorphy/etc.. is banned.

reply to post by CHRLZ

By the way at that forum, decisively/dastardly/fattydash/Patrick1000/Bfischer/BSpassky/PaulMorphy/etc.. is banned.

As he is here. I would have been more than happy to let him keep humiliating himself, but the Mods have decided otherwise.

Probably a great deal could be gleaned from simply launching the rockets eastward. I believe the acknowledged military missile tests were sent from Vandenberg westward.

reply to post by Capablanca


Welcome back decisively!

reply to post by decisively


The May 21 1961 Life Magazine featured an article allegedly written by Alan Shepard himself. The article is clearly not written by Shepard. That is an aside which should probably be covered by others in the appropriate thread. Take a look at the National Geographic article alleged to have been written by David Scott about his Apollo 15 adventure. This is another obvious forged composition. A thread dedicated to this subject of counterfeit astronaut writings may be helpful to our cause.

The ghost writer of the May 21 1961 Life Magazine article writes that the Shepard character memorized the positions of Venus, the Moon and the Sun prior to the first Mercury launch. Note that constellations were not included. This is the first time an American is attempting to go into space. Of course constellation visibility would be a curiosity if nothing else. Additionally there would of course be practical value in visualizing and then marking specific stars.

The ghost author's intentionally ignoring this point draws our attention to it all the more and suggests from the time of Mercury that U.S. manned space may have been involved in covering for our ICBM celestial guidance system.

reply to post by Capablanca


So you are going to ignore that i am accusing you of being someone else? You never did comment on swimming 1000 yards with a disability either. So many lingering questions, so little time before the next ban get on it!

I wish you could see my smile right now. Its magnificent.

reply to post by Capablanca

Probably a great deal could be gleaned from simply launching the rockets eastward. I believe the acknowledged military missile tests were sent from Vandenberg westward.

They were launched eastward to get an "assist" from the Earth's rotational velocity. The Coriolis Effect was already well known and easy to calculate with measurements made by Earth based transits. You're still barking up the wrong tree, TSD.

reply to post by Capablanca

The ghost writer of the May 21 1961 Life Magazine article writes that the Shepard character memorized the positions of Venus, the Moon and the Sun prior to the first Mercury launch. Note that constellations were not included. This is the first time an American is attempting to go into space. Of course constellation visibility would be a curiosity if nothing else. Additionally there would of course be practical value in visualizing and then marking specific stars.

As you yourself point out, the article was not written by Shepard himself, and therefore is not necessarily comprehensive. It goes without saying that Shepard knew the principle navigation stars by heart. (Can you name all 57? There's a prize in it.)