Online porn drove boy of 12 to rape girl, 9.

Now many of you will correctly say that playing vilolent videogames and watching porn will not make us violent or rapists.
I fully agree.
But i also believe that such activities affect our mental framework.
Again, many will correctly point out that it's the fault of the parents for allowing the child access to porn.
But can you comprehend how difficult it is to protect a child from this rampant sex obsessed society and more so from the easy availability of sexual materials???
Many will correctly argue that in countries where porn is illegal, there is an increase in rape crimes.
But those countries generally have much more stable family unit, low divorce rates, low fatherless children, etc.
I am all for personal rights but should we continue to glorify sex in our society ???
At last, what about the judge's decision????
Original source----

boy of 12 who raped a nine-year-old girl after watching hard-core pornography online was spared jail yesterday as his lawyer warned of a generation of children growing up with a ‘skewed view’ on sex. The schoolboy, who is now 14, told police he had raped the little girl because he wanted to ‘feel grown up’ after watching porn online.
daily mail link

reply to post by deepankarm

But those countries generally have much more stable family unit, low divorce rates, low fatherless children, etc.

lol source?

What happened to parent responsibility? I didn't have the internet until I was around 12 however my parents were always in the room when I was using it, and they didn't let me on when they were not home (connection had a password)

It's up to the parents to supervise their kids, you can't blame what's on the internet for incompetent parenting.

reply to post by deepankarm

The boy should have been sent to juvenile dentention, when I was 12 I had seen porn (on VHS tapes) and had an idea of what sex was. I also knew the difference between right and wrong, knew what rape meant and knew that was wrong. This kid has problems that is not normal behavior. Most kids that age who want to experience sex try to get girls to have sex with them, not rape them. That judge is an idiot for buying that lawyers bull and I bet he rapes again..

When I was around the same age I found my Dad's porn collection, I took a peek and you know what I did after?

I played with sticks.

It didn't make headlines.

Weird.

reply to post by muse7


He was nine. Whether or not he knew right from wrong there has to be some underlying issues with his family. At that age I blame the parents. There was something wrong with this kid whether it be wanting to be like an adult or wanting to be acknowledged by his elders, something along those lines.

But this isn't something that can be entirely blamed on him.

reply to post by deepankarm


Raping someone is not normal... He, as well as his parents should be responsible for this. I believe the child should be counseled and the parents should face charges on some sort of neglect.

EDIT:@boncho he was 12, thats around the time where people can make most decisions for themselves.

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by deepankarm

But those countries generally have much more stable family unit, low divorce rates, low fatherless children, etc.

 

lol source?

Well, i can relate to my home country and society (India) and other third world prude countries.

dumbass kid..... porn should sue him

reply to post by deepankarm


I want to know how they are defining "rape" in this situation. Sure, if he forced her to do it, then it's rape. But if she willingly agreed then it's not rape. Just because the law states a girl that young cannot consent doesn't make it rape. If that boy and another girl his age had sex, and they were both fully willing, I would have no problem at all with it. If their bodies weren't ready for it, the boy wouldn't have sexual urges and his body wouldn't produce an erection. The law on the other hand would deem one or both of them to be committing a felony. The age group with by far the largest number of convictions for sex offenses are people between 14 and 20 years old.

Originally posted by BigBruddah
reply to post by deepankarm

 

Raping someone is not normal... He, as well as his parents should be responsible for this. I believe the child should be counseled and the parents should face charges on some sort of neglect.

EDIT:@boncho he was 12, thats around the time where people can make most decisions for themselves.

edit on 1/6/2012 by BigBruddah because: (no reason given)

Children cannot be programmed by parents and if you have both working parents, then you will have a serious problem.
And what about the ways of teaching a child, you can't slap him as it will be called child abuse by many.
Why we just ignore the truth that children pickup things from the environment.
I was never given sex ed and all by my parents but the society i grew up in taught me the same with time.
It taught me what is acceptable and what is not.
Why should we deny the social responsibility???

He was probably raped by someone

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by deepankarm

 

I want to know how they are defining "rape" in this situation. Sure, if he forced her to do it, then it's rape. But if she willingly agreed then it's not rape. Just because the law states a girl that young cannot consent doesn't make it rape. If that boy and another girl his age had sex, and they were both fully willing, I would have no problem at all with. If their bodies weren't ready for it, the boy wouldn't have sexual urges and his body wouldn't produce an erection. The law on the other hand would deem one or both of them to be committing a felony. The age group with by far the largest number of convictions for sex offenses are people between 14 and 20 years old.

edit on 1-6-2012 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)

So what are you suggesting??
Decrease the age of consent to nine years??
And i wonder why are so many underage depressed children.

There are unstable individuals at all ages, incidents like this are nothing new. I dont blame anyone for this. Society is not responsible, parents are not responsible, not even the rapist is fully responsible at that age. It just happened, and people should learn to accept that sometimes nobody is fully to blame. And thats the hard part for some.

reply to post by deepankarm


The parents shouldn't let him on the internet without any form of supervision at 12.. When I was 12 getting a porn mag was lucky, theres a difference when the internet has much more explicit material than just a naked woman. If it is society's fault then point to where its been said that its ok to rape someone. Its why I said counseling would help him, he needs to be shown the right direction not put in juvenile detention.

reply to post by deepankarm

So what are you suggesting??
Decrease the age of consent to nine years??

No not nine you sicko. Probably like 12 or 14 in my opinion. For instance the age of consent in Japan is 13 years old, however it does vary with local jurisdictions. Or a more sensible option might be to add a law which is more flexible regarding near-age relationships, instead of just labeling them criminals for acting on their natural human desires.

reply to post by deepankarm

So what are you suggesting??

I think he is suggesting that this may have been a consentual case of statutory rape? Meaning that the victim gave consent, it just wasnt informed consent due to her low age? Because in that case, the girl is arguably as much rapist as the boy, who also cannot give consent.

But I dont think that was the case here.

We have had lot of similar cases in SA recently, although they may have gone unnoticed if the youngsters didn't film them with their phones and spread them.
www.guardian.co.uk...

It's very sad really that there's still no real education to respect and honor girls.

However, porn alone didn't create patriarchy or its attitudes, and in some cultures the two could be married, or the boy's family would simply pay a fine.
Traditionally in many cultures this would be a minor event.

Note that the picture of a boy in the article is posed by a model, and gives no indication of his true culture or background.
As such we have no knowledge what complex influences led to a crime blamed on "porn".

reply to post by Maslo

I think he is suggesting that this may have been a consentual case of statutory rape? Meaning that the victim gave consent, it just wasnt informed consent due to her low age? Because in that case, the girl is arguably as much rapist as the boy, who also cannot give consent.

Yes that is exactly the point I was aiming for. Although I'm not sure if that is the case, the article does seem to imply he forced her.

Originally posted by Maslo
There are unstable individuals at all ages, incidents like this are nothing new. I dont blame anyone for this. Society is not responsible, parents are not responsible, not even the rapist is fully responsible at that age. It just happened, and people should learn to accept that sometimes nobody is fully to blame. And thats the hard part for some.

I humbly disagree.
Why we are ignoring the social environment in which children are growing up.
Why a child is taught sex ed and not about love and morality first???
Rape is just one thing, what about the increasing number of depressed children of age as low as five???
Why can't we acknowledge there is something wrong going on in the society???