Bush Refers To Iraqi Insurgents As "Folks" During The Debate

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by bushblows
And I cringe everytime you pretend to be a veteran, Grady, but if you get your kicks pretending to be a Marine who am I to judge?

You should be nice, blowsbush. I am a real veteran. I probably earned my Purple Heart before your father was born. If you know who he is, you should ask if he was born before 23 Feb 69 and report back to us. Anyone who has ever served knows that I know whereof I speak.

And "The Great Santini" is one of the finest films of all time and one of Duval's greatest efforts. It has its inaccuracies, but someone like you would never catch them.

Are you microcephalic or just pretending to be?


[edit on 04/10/2 by GradyPhilpott]

I caught all the inaccuracies in The Great Santini, Gravy. That's how I know
you've watched it.

Have never heard of "microcephalic" but assume it means "sporting a pea-sized brain" or something along those lines. You're a sunny burst of cheer, you know that Gravy? A real brimming sunbeam of a man.

Daddys whereabouts is known. He's a cool ex military fellow.
Unlike...err...SOME people on this board....

[edit on 2-10-2004 by bushblows]

Originally posted by bushblows
Daddys whereabouts is known. He's a cool ex military fellow.
Unlike...err...SOME people on this board....

Have him send me a U2U. I'd like to talk with him.

hmmm.

As of the time of this post. Grady and Bushblows have been off the boards for 5 minutes, both of them....

Has this come to "blows"?
Did one of them say "step outside punk"?

If I find out, I'll get back to you folks......

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by bushblows
Daddys whereabouts is known. He's a cool ex military fellow.
Unlike...err...SOME people on this board....

Have him send me a U2U. I'd like to talk with him.

Oh that's ok, Gravy. You're not the friendliest of people.
On the contrary - you're an uptight, abrasive a-hole.

Now go watch the scene where Robert Duvall taunts his
son with the basketball. It suits you.

Jamuhn, thanks for injecting a little more humor into this. As far as cowboys, did you know Florida has more cowboys and produces more of the cattleyou eat than you know? And they helped Bush win the election..is there a connection????

It was also nice to see Bushblows turn his attitude as fast as Kerry would with Grady. Kinda like the guy who tries to pick a fight, you threaten to kick his ass and he buys you a drink. Sorry, but I am guy that will not buy you a drink, get it?

ps. Real vets don't brag about Vietnam, at least that was what my father said. Server 2 tours and rotated home 2 weeks before the Thet offensive. He flew in a chopper and rarely talked about it.

That's enough, folks.

Quit with the hollering at each other.
Any more insults & name calling will result in further disciplinary action.

Mmmmkay?

Thx.

Did daddy taunt you BUshblows? Is that why you are so upset at the world?

The great Santini was an excellent movie and the book was better (he was ALOT worse than Duvall in the movie). It is a story of coming of age in a household with a father such as his. THey could have not put him in the military and it would still apply. Now, please tell me how this applies to this thread?

If you have nothing nice to say or constructive, leave the post man or start on that talks about abusive MIlatray fathers or something.

[edit on 2-10-2004 by esdad71]

Banshee

Hollering?
Gotta love that one..!

And I did not cringe, when I read that..

My Grandmother lived in a Holler....Possum Holler...really!
In West Virginia.

[edit on 2-10-2004 by spacedoubt]

Simple George used a simple word because he blanked out as usual. It took him a few seconds to come up with "folks". When used in the context of the enemy, the terrorists, it is way unprofessional to refer to them as folks. Its downright stupid to call them "folks".

Maybe we'll have a "folk" alert soon.
The "folks" attacked us on 911

"folk" is a benign word- a friendly word.
not appropriate for the enemy.

There was a "folk" alert when "A Mighty Wind" came out on DVD.

Words are merely words..they have no malice, nor are they benign.
It's the intention of the person USING the word.
Bush was referring to a group of people "FOLKS"

What is so freakin' hard to understand?
What is so freakin' hard to understand?
What is so freakin' hard to understand?

OR,

Are Kerry supporters running out of reasons why the debate did nearly nothing but shore-up the already confirmed Kerry voters?

Originally posted by bushblows
And we also know his supporters are dumb enough to buy it, cuz they don't appear to know what real cowboys do for a living, right? (ie: work outdoors, RIDE HORSES, fling lassos, etc....)

Here's my question:

Political persona aside....am I the only one who cringed with embarrassment when he referred to Iraqi insurgents as "folks" during the debate?
[edit on 2-10-2004 by bushblows]

I just happened to notice the irony in this post.
I thought I'd preserve it.

Someone who says "cuz" embarrassed by someone who says "folks"



[Edited on 3-10-2004 by spacedoubt]

I find the fact that you call them 'insurgents' instead of 'terrorists' to be quite telling.

Here is a potential answer to the question of Bush's adopted Texan Accent....

1st.....

COCAINE:
According to a new book, three independent sources close to the Bush family report that Governor Bush was arrested in 1972 for coc aine possession, and taken to Harris County Jail, but avoided jail or formal charges through an informal diversion plan involving community service with Project P.U.L.L., an inner city Houston program for troubled youths at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center in Houston's dirt-poor Third Ward. (In another new book, reporter Bill Minutaglio, writes that the year of community service was arranged by the Governor's father, ex-president Bush, after he caught Bush Jr. driving drunk.)

www.realchange.org... aine

2nd...

Cocaine Abuse May Lead To Strokes and Mental Deficits
By Steven Stocker, NIDA NOTES Contributing Writer

In 1977, a 43-year-old man came to an emergency room in New York City after having injected coc aine into a muscle in his left arm. Between 1 and 2 hours after the injection, he had begun having trouble speaking and was weak in his right arm and leg. After performing a brain scan, doctors at the hospital determined that the man had had a stroke on the left side of the brain. Although the man also abused other drugs, the fact that the stroke had occurred shortly after he had injected coc aine suggested that coc aine had contributed to the stroke. This case was one of the earliest verified reports of a stroke associated with coc aine use. In their report, the doctors concluded, "If, in fact, coc aine played a causal role [in the stroke], we anticipate that more strokes will be seen among the many abusers of this agent in American cities."

Their prediction turned out to be correct. In subsequent years, coc aine-related strokes became more frequent, particularly in the mid-1980s after the advent of crack coc aine. These strokes involved sudden dramatic reductions in blood flow to areas of the brain, resulting in neurological symptoms, such as paralysis, loss of speech, and dementia.

In the late 1980s, researchers began noticing another type of blood flow disturbance associated with coc aine use. This second type involved less dramatic but more persistent reductions in cerebral blood flow that could lead to difficulties concentrating, slowed thought processes, and memory deficits.

www.drugabuse.gov...

Conclusion....

UCF clinic diagnoses rare Foreign Accent Syndrome
University of Central Florida speech expert diagnoses disorder that caused woman to speak with British accent after a stroke

ORLANDO, Nov. 19, 2003 - A University of Central Florida speech expert has diagnosed an extremely rare disorder in a Sarasota woman that caused her to speak with a British accent after she suffered a stroke.

The case of Foreign Accent Syndrome - a disorder linked to stroke-related or other internal brain injuries that leaves affected people with a foreign-sounding accent - is one of fewer than 20 reported worldwide since 1919, according to Jack Ryalls, professor of communicative disorders at UCF.

www.eurekalert.org...

Makes sense, no?

ahem, yeah plenty of sense.

Especially when the evidence is backed up by a cartoon.

stroke accents? maybe that's it

Originally posted by spacedoubt
a cartoon.

Who would you be referring to? The president or Tom Tomorrow's insightful piece?

Originally posted by bushblows
We all know George has never roped a steer and was raised with servents but that he wants to be viewed a "cowboy", right?

And we also know his supporters are dumb enough to buy it, cuz they don't appear to know what real cowboys do for a living, right? (ie: work outdoors, RIDE HORSES, fling lassos, etc....)

Here's my question:

Political persona aside....am I the only one who cringed with embarrassment when he referred to Iraqi insurgents as "folks" during the debate.

Comment:

Such a remark as "folks," is far more filled with hope, than if you call them "cattle," or some other dehumanizing term. He considers "Iraqi insurgents," to be people for crying out loud!

If there is anything to make cringe, it would be another reified response to other human beings."Making people into things," is the problem, as even less than our misconception about animals. That response is far too routine in our world, a disconnect from empathy.

That seems to happen everyday, but if Bush is calling these Iraqi insurgents "folks," it is sure a great deal better than some THX-1138, 1984, and Brave New World response to other human beings.

There is very well far more hope here than reason to "cringe."

[edit on 3-10-2004 by SkipShipman]

Originally posted by bushblows

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by bushblows
Daddys whereabouts is known. He's a cool ex military fellow.
Unlike...err...SOME people on this board....

Have hsend me a U2U. I'd like to talk with himim .

Oh that's ok, Gravy. You're not the friendliest of people.
On the contrary - you're an uptight, abrasive a-hole.