May I Pester ATS with One More Request?

My request is simple: Can someone tell me somewhere I can go now that I've quit on the system? I want to live off the grid. I want to live in a community with other people who have also quit on the system. I know these communities exist. I live in Dickson Tennessee. Can someone tell me the nearest place I can go? PLEASE. Just this ONCE spare me any sarcastic remarks and advice about seeking psychological help. I've tried that. It never worked. I will skip right over any lectures trying to 'teach' me anything. So, please, if you don't know of a place I could go, it's likely you shouldn't post here at all. Is it so much to ask just for this one last thing and even promise I'll leave you all alone? This isn't a thread for argument. It's a simple inquiry for help. Thank you..

Optional reading: (for anyone that feels they must know why I've given up on this)

I quit because I've simply tried as much as I can stand. Even the military wants me to sit in front of a chalk board and take notes in their camps. I'm not about to waste my time again with something I know I can not stand. I'm not getting a job or going to school. I've tried it way too many times and failed as many times as I can stand anymore. Even finding a psychiatrist requires far too much of what I can't stand doing to get. There is no purpose in this system for me. I've delved so deep into thought and search that I've found this human living too pointless to even begin on just to get out. Boredom has become so powerful that if I tried flipping burgers in a McDonald's that, after hours into the work on just the first day, the boredom would make me walk right out the door. No amount of pay could be worth it because I simply can't stand it enough to even make it through the work. My only motivation now is to leave this world. I'm fully convinced I'm living in a simulation. I believe there is a way out for all of us. I believe we will be out of here soon. Unfortunately, I can't wait it out in the system anymore, though. I need change. I'd try dating some more to hold me over, but no one wants someone who has no money. Only desperate people seem to be attracted to me, and those desperate people I've met are not my type. The ones I want don't seem to want me. So, I've given up on that too until things change. What I want from life, this world can't offer. It has been PROVEN that this world can't offer it. Besides, I can't stand this place anyway. It's disgusting. And, I hate how I can see the pixels moving in my eyes whether they're opened or closed. It's annoying as hell, that and how when I put objects to my eye, they blur out instead of becoming more clear. It's just like a computer in here. Drives me nuts. That's right. I'm not crazy. The people eating all this crap are the insane ones. I've simply found the truth so many other deny. So, don't bother posting your arguments when neither of us are going to convince the other of anything. Don't waste your time.

Sorry to say bro but to live "off the grid" usually requires a bit of preparation and quite a bit of start up funds.
One just cant be dropped off in the woods with a hatchet and box of matches and expect to survive.
If you insist though, Alaskas the place to go.

reply to post by Three

Why do you want to be in a group?
Why not buy a piece of secluded land and live out there by yourself?

there are alot of off grid communities on the Hilo side of the Big island, not exactly next to you but if you can afford the ticket then you don't have to worry about cold, snakes, bears, and you get to live next to the beach..
There is fruit year round, pigs to hunt, Coconuts aplenty, etc. Most of them want somewhere between 10-20 hrs a week to work.

Just a heads up, communities usually have an owner and they are basically your boss. It's similar to a job in many aspects; in that things are expected of you and if you don't deliver then they don't need you.
Working and living off grid can be much more physically demanding than most people can take, comfort levels can be very low. They might want you to shower only every couple days, you'd be eating alot of the same basic food over and over, maybe you'd have one hour of electricity a day, etc.
If you hurt yourself in this very physical work and you don't have medical coverage, life gets a little complicated.

Can you work in the Sun for 8 hrs a day? Can you be bent over weeding for hours at a time? Can you do the same repetitve work for a month straight?

more power to you if you can handle, just want to paint a realistic picture.
The good side is if you can handle then you can feel your health and strength just increasing, you'll be happy and youll be surrounded by like minded individuals in a community.

WWOOF - World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms
www.wwoof.org...
check out that website. You might have to pay to get access to their list but this is the best source for finding communities next to you. some of them just want workers, some of them are communities for people to live in.

just remember its just like a job and if you have a hard time with normal work, this is ganna be alot tougher.

I have no money. Work can be fun. Just no system work.. It all sucks. I'm one hell of a worker if it means I get to be the warrior I was born as.

reply to post by Three


You sound like you are looking for some people, who've already done all the work it takes to go off-grid, and you just move in with them. I don't think folks off-grid are looking for anyone to take care of. They are too busy taking care of themselves.

Des

Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by Three

 

You sound like you are looking for some people, who've already done all the work it takes to go off-grid, and you just move in with them. I don't think folks off-grid are looking for anyone to take care of. They are too busy taking care of themselves.

Des

I hate people like you. You assume things that were not said. I can't make this thread over 9,000 words or people won't bother to read it all. I can't just go into every little detail about what I'll do once I get there. Of COURSE I'm gonna help everyone out.. This shouldn't even be mentioned, but because of you, I have to so others won't go thinking the same. Thanks a lot.

reply to post by Three


I knew a guy who hitchhiked the country several times. Been to every state in the lower 48 with the exception of Delaware i think. He knew where the good soup kitchens were and everything. He loved it. Truckers gave him rides and cash for his needs or whatever. Says there are tons of good people out there.

Good luck.

Originally posted by type0civ
reply to post by Three

 

I knew a guy who hitchhiked the country several times. Been to every state in the lower 48 with the exception of Delaware i think. He knew where the good soup kitchens were and everything. He loved it. Truckers gave him rides and cash for his needs or whatever. Says there are tons of good people out there.

Good luck.

Ha ha, that's neat.. Thanks. I could actually try that. It would at least get me somewhere. And, here I was worried about how I was going to get to California where there's communities like I'm looking for, and an option comes up like this. Never know, right? I've been planning on just walking out the door and walking on and on anyway. I'll keep this in mind.

Here is a list of communities around the US.
Good Luck!

directory.ic.org...

There are 160 communities on this list of varied types.

I'm sure you can find one close to you and schedule a visit.

Originally posted by Juggernog
Sorry to say bro but to live "off the grid" usually requires a bit of preparation and quite a bit of start up funds.
One just cant be dropped off in the woods with a hatchet and box of matches and expect to survive.
If you insist though, Alaskas the place to go.

Right. And, I don't think the OP knows what going off the grid entails. If she doesn't like work then she better kiss the grid's butt.

Originally posted by Nephlim
there are alot of off grid communities on the Hilo side of the Big island, not exactly next to you but if you can afford the ticket then you don't have to worry about cold, snakes, bears, and you get to live next to the beach..
There is fruit year round, pigs to hunt, Coconuts aplenty, etc. Most of them want somewhere between 10-20 hrs a week to work.

Just a heads up, communities usually have an owner and they are basically your boss. It's similar to a job in many aspects; in that things are expected of you and if you don't deliver then they don't need you.
Working and living off grid can be much more physically demanding than most people can take, comfort levels can be very low. They might want you to shower only every couple days, you'd be eating alot of the same basic food over and over, maybe you'd have one hour of electricity a day, etc.
If you hurt yourself in this very physical work and you don't have medical coverage, life gets a little complicated.

Can you work in the Sun for 8 hrs a day? Can you be bent over weeding for hours at a time? Can you do the same repetitve work for a month straight?

more power to you if you can handle, just want to paint a realistic picture.
The good side is if you can handle then you can feel your health and strength just increasing, you'll be happy and youll be surrounded by like minded individuals in a community.

Yup. Pretty sure that everyone off the gird is a hardworking do-it-yourselfer. They are strong-willed, determined, and willing to work like slaves for just the basic necessities. It's far far from an easy life.

reply to post by Three



I truly feel sorry for you. I have felt everything you've written. You're right, there is no purpose to this life, and it IS BORING! But ya know what? Even if you live to 90, that is such a short time that you might as well just see it through. As long as I can laugh at something everyday, I'm hangin' around.

My job? I am a die cutter. Eight hours a day I toss sheets of cardboard into a machine that cuts it into circles. And I do this 5,000 to 9,000 time a day. You wanna talk about boring? Wow! I just thank gawd that I love my daydreams while working.

Three is not asking for a free ride. Read between the lines. She's young, hard working, and able to perform anything that gives her life meaning. She's disconnected from the rest of society, so she thinks the best resolution to her dilemma is to find a small community off the grid where values are actually values, and hard work actually pays off, without the mindless hum-drum of repetitive activity for the corporation. She wants to see her hard work pay off, and not feed the corporate beast that pays you nothing for meaningless labor.

She never said she wants it easy. She's willing to work to earn her keep.

And she'd disappear if not for posts like this.

She needs understood.

I suspect that once you "join" others of the same situation....you become a member of the "group".

As a member of any "group"...the old friends, family, neighbors, co-workers, teachers etc...of that person and ALL THE OTHER GROUP MEMBERS... wanting "off-the grid"....just put you back "on" it....as a member of a group "off-it".

All those former associates of everyone in the group...now can expose it..and you.

Unless youre going it alone.....

reply to post by Three


Aren't you like 11?

I swear I saw you say you were 11 in a thread here recently...

Anyway, if you're so determined to live off the grid, you will need to learn how to do it.

It will be boring, tedious, repetitive and hard work.

You'll also need money, unless you plan on going nomad, you will need at minimum a descent plot of land where you can grow your food and raise animals. Then you need a good, clean supply of water, building materials for a house, a garden to grow food...

The list goes on.

What will you do for electricity?

reply to post by Chadwickus


she wants to live in a community with other people. she doesn't need her own land to do that. its in the OP.

There are alot of communities that take farm workers, they just normally end up screwing the workers over.

your going to end up working 25 hours a week for a roof and 2-3 meals a day. and thats it. if you want any money for soap, clothes, extra food, books, tools, blankets, etc your ganna have to find a paying job. I've never seen a farm that is 100% sustainable. at the most maybe 70%. Alot of people that go into the farming communities actually have nest eggs or parents supporting them. they don't talk about it much but you can tell the more you interact with them. they don't like to tell people though.

Try getting another job when you can only take a shower every 3 days due to limited water, and you have to hitchhike into your job..

A good option if there is a college nearby is to go to college and get student loans or grants. You can shower at college, make friends and sleep at their houses, have extra money, and not be physically tied to the land 100% of the time.

Those are the people i've seen do the off grid communities most sucessfully.