ILLINOIS REP LOSES IT on House Floor

Originally posted by Garfee

Originally posted by yadda333

Originally posted by Garfee

Originally posted by yadda333
You are all sheep.

Most of you have no idea who this dude is, where this is taking place, or what he is even yelling about. And you don't even care. You just think it's great that he is yelling.

You're all ready to take up arms and follow this guy right off a cliff!

I don't care if he is trying to bring back H.R Pufinstuff - he is as angry as us and that is what matters because it proves that not all politicians are sheep. So it's not us that are sheep buddy, it's them.

If following him over a cliff would be for the greater good...you'd probably be at home watching tv.

So, you have proven my point. Congratulations!

You'll blindly follow somebody if they seem passionate enough. It doesn't even matter what the message is, it just matters how loudly it is said. Brilliant!

At least I admire passion.

This is happening not in the US House of Representatives but in the Illinois House, and the rep is Mike Bost (R - Carbondale), going postal over the fact that the House was given only 15 minutes for members to analyze a 200-page bill on overhauling the civil service pension system. Considering that none of the members liked the 15 minute rush, I suppose they let him fulminate freely.

reply to post by Komaratzi11


Yea I live in IL right now too. A very beautiful and politically pure part of IL if I might add.

Our sheriff and elected reps truly represent the people's interests, I am blessed to live in such a part of America. The #ty places I have been, I know what's good and what's not. Trust and know the people that are supposed to represent you. Hold them accountable and question them, if they are true you will know it. I know my sheriff personally and even though he doesn't conform to my political ideology he is a good man and worthy of his office.

America needs to extend that sentiment onto its higher ups.

I salute this man , bravo for him I wish and hope and PRAY !!! That more politicians will follow his example Fight the system , that is one of the few places where you have the power to do so

Originally posted by draco49
I think it takes balls of steel for an elected official to passionately scream, "Let my people go!" on national television. Regardless of how you feel about the man's politics, you gotta admire the chutzpa

Nah, he overreacted totally. Littering... 85 dollar fine. Screaming obscenities... 250 dollars. Assault with a microphone... dunno.

Throwing a fit on the floor during speech... priceless.

reply to post by intrptr


Yea I guess pretty much in the same way bradley manning should be held accountable for the blatant killing of unidentified people?

This guy should be responsible for calling out the giant (and obvious) corruption that is going on right? Let's blame the hero for all the trouble he caused upsetting a corrupt system.

reply to post by intrptr


Nah i agree =) Bravo to him!!!

reply to post by RSF77


Aww dude, you can't paint me any color you like. I'm not anti American. I am anti what America has become.

In case you were wondering.

reply to post by JibbyJedi


Haha, I thought the same thing! Now I'm laughing even harder.


That guy is awesome. Look at all the others around him just burying their heads in the sand.
If I was there I would of backed him up...if only I was there...

reply to post by yadda333


I know what he was so frustrated about and I'm not even from his country, let alone his state. - do you know why he was? Do you even care, or are you only interested in mocking people who admire principles and emotional conviction?

Yes! We need more people like that! All those other people near him shoul have stood up in support of him, i know i would have. Its good to see theres at least one person in power who thinks about the people.

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by RSF77

 

Aww dude, you can't paint me any color you like. I'm not anti American. I am anti what America has become.

In case you were wondering.

Whatever, I'm treating you according to the ideas you want to express. If you are trying to tell me someone on the very floor that represents the freedom of speech is speaking out of term because you personally don't like it:

Originally posted by intrptr
Nah, he overreacted totally. Littering... 85 dollar fine. Screaming obscenities... 250 dollars. Assault with a microphone... dunno.

Throwing a fit on the floor during speech... priceless.

This is the way that American politics is supposed to be done. If you don't like it and you don't like hearing what people have to say, then go find your own little corner of the world and hide. This is a republic and this is the way it's supposed to function, if you can't understand how it has become corrupted then you shouldn't have any opinion on the matter.

The nature of this system is suppose to be to allow people to speak, to allow people to truly represent a group. If you don't like what this elected official has to say then you are a crappy judge of character consider what *most* elected officials and reps are saying. This guy is basically laying it out on the line.

If you and millions of other people cannot respect honesty in this environment then we are #ed.

Originally posted by Garfee
reply to post by yadda333

 

I Do you even care, or are you only interested in mocking people who admire principles and emotional conviction?

Cult leaders have emotional conviction.

Hitler had emotional conviction.

I think you're going down a bad road.

The guy didn't have anything intelligent to say. Who cares about passion if it's not based in logic. He said something illogical though, that we live in a Democracy when we actually live in a Republic.

On top of that he reminded me of a cross between Alex Jones and a Southern Baptist preacher which is kind of scary!

reply to post by RSF77


Sorry you took what I said out of context. I was I repeat, being sarcastic. Judging by the response there around him, that is the impression that I got. Even though I heard a smattering of applause in the background. People seemed more stunned by his rage than his message. Like me. Raging on the floor is not the way to win hearts and minds. Of course I agree with his stance just not his anger.

If I yell at you about something what do you tend to remember, the message or the volume?

Originally posted by Reflection
The guy didn't have anything intelligent to say. Who cares about passion if it's not based in logic. He said something illogical though, that we live in a Democracy when we actually live in a Republic.

On top of that he reminded me of a cross between Alex Jones and a Southern Baptist preacher which is kind of scary!

To his defense much of the process of governance in America is a representative democracy, so he is not entirely wrong. There is an element of "democracy" that exists within American, regardless of it being a republic. That's where all this democracy propaganda came from and why people think America is a democracy. It's a representative democratic republic, or at least it supposed to be I guess. Who the hell knows what America is supposed to be anymore.

reply to post by CALGARIAN


OP - I genuinely think you should change the title of your thread. To say he "loses it" does that man great dishonor.

That was a great display of patriotism.

reply to post by Reflection


If you're going to be a technical douche about it, we live in an oligarchical plutocracy.

Originally posted by yadda333

Originally posted by Garfee
reply to post by yadda333

 

I Do you even care, or are you only interested in mocking people who admire principles and emotional conviction?

Cult leaders have emotional conviction.

Hitler had emotional conviction.

I think you're going down a bad road.

edit on 5/30/2012 by yadda333 because: (no reason given)

Ooooh boy.

Here we go with the ol' "EVERYONE I DON'T AGREE WITH IS HITLER!! " bit.

Originally posted by essanance
reply to post by intrptr

 

Nah i agree =) Bravo to him!!!

People took what I said wrong. The response he got there is what you would expect no matter where someone "loses it" (gets angry). It spoiled the message.

Cause he's sick of it and this has to stop? I know a little about why he blew up and I agree with his point, but not his rage.

Angry men are wrong men.