Great Pyramid Starmap Etching Depicts Age of 9200 B.C.E (prove them wrong....)

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It's probably your subconcious telling you to sell rocks on ebay under the heading 'ancient Egyptian star-maps'...

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Now there is a plan. May even get me on my next trip to see something worthwhile. Maybe the Temples and ruins in Sri Lanka.......

Roll up roll up.......get your genuine Egyptian star maps here......

Many things in history can be argued about - how the pyramids were built, their age - especially when it comes to ancient times. I see the theory in the video and it looks plausible, however probably more evidence is needed to confirm that,

Still, this does show something and any 'I do not believe it because when I was a kid I saw in the encyclopedia they said otherwise' - well Textbooks can be wrong. Example: Columbus may have not been the first to go to Americas from Europe. Example: When I was a student the textbook said Pluto had only 1 satellite - Charon, now they have 2 more - Nix and Hydra,

So, it is wrong to not get open minded about uncertain things that remain just a theory like any other and the only thing that makes them strong is that they have been wordly accepted. However, I see things may not be exactly so, however, needs confimration, still an interesting observation.

Does anyone knwo what's inside this chamber and why not go and see?

If teh builders wanted us to know the date , tehn they went about it in the weirdest way, so that only 12,000 years later some guy on youtube discovers it .

Why not just write it on the wall like most other builders !

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I do agree with you that things can be wrong but the star orientation-pyramid theory has been debunked so many times and in so many ways i just cannot take it seriously. And that is aside from the mountains of evidence showing humans built them.

I do, however, think that we may not have dating techniques nailed down yet. They could certainly, therefore, be older than we currently think.

However, as to the sea shells around the base (mentioned earlier in thread and often brought up when discussing the proposed age of the Sphinx, etc) that is simple geology. Rivers and seas rise and fall and this sort of thing is found all over the world. For example, look at the site of Troy in Turkey. And then look at the current coastline - it is much further out in the Dardanelles.

I could go on but i am sure you get my point.

HOAX!

This literally has the word "HOAX" written on it, back and forth ... up and down, and sideways as well.

Fory "anyone" to write a starmap inside the pyramid ... it would require him (or her) to have a copy of the starmap on paper, to be able to do it at any greater ... it must serve a purpose. And there is no purpose, to have it inside a shaft, somewhere ... bla bla bla bla.

If it had been carved inside the queens coffin, or something similar ... it "maybe" would have made sense.

But here ... come on guys, give me a break ... this is so seriously pathetic, I sincerely think your brains are fried .... like that of a chicken.

Originally posted by Flavian

I do, however, think that we may not have dating techniques nailed down yet. They could certainly, therefore, be older than we currently think.

Hardly ... it's the other way around.

The dating mechanism that we use today, we are using the "oldest possible scenario" ... and basically ignoring any systematic changes, that may have occurred. An example, is a ruby ... it takes nature x amount of years to create one ... but we can create one almost instantenously with industrial means. Archeologists that use this mechanism, are ignoring the fact, that during our human history we have dozens if not hundreds of catastrophic events ... any of which could have tremendously affected the carbon methods.

So, if anything ... the dates are "younger" rather than older.

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
I got about 2 mins into it and it looks like the biggest load of garbage I have seen for a while.

Sorry just my opinion but this looks like snake oil. Talk about reaching.

There have been many things like this showing the pyramids are older than people think.

It's common knowledge that the pyramids were built to line up with orion's belt. And if you regress star maps backward they line up around 10,000 B.C.E.

Yep, I believe much of history that we have access to is not quite on the button for whatever reason.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by anon72

 

Isaiah 19:19

In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in the heart of Egypt, and a monument to the LORD at its border.

They Pyramids are a monument to the LORD. The LORD is YHVH. Yud, Hey, Vav, Hey. Each of these Hebrew letters are pictographs from Phoenician (Proto-Canaanite). Read from left to right, Behold the Hand, Behold the Nail. No other explanation of the Pyramids fit as well as the master builder himself. In Genesis 1, it's the Elohim. In Genesis 2 (2nd creation story), we are given a Lord to watch our development back to the Kingdom of God.

In Genesis 6, we see the Watchers who rejected God's plan and married women. Jesus said, the Builders rejected the Capstone. David said it first in Psalms 118.

The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone;

Jesus said it in Matthew:

Matthew 21

Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: "'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?

The Builders are the Masons. Jesus condemned them for rejecting the true Capstone. Jesus also condemned the Moneychangers (Bankers) and the False Priests (Peter). He asked Peter, "Do you love me?" three times.

The Earth was taken by these three groups. They rejected the true builder himself.

Why did Joseph need to go to Egypt to translate? Why did Moses need to be schooled in the Hermetic schools of the Egyptians? Why did Jesus travel to Egypt as a babe?

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This is what i have to say:

"And having said this Jesus smote his face with both his hands and then smote the ground with his head. And having raised his head he said: "Cursed be every one who shall into my sayings that I am the son of God."

-Gospel of Barnabas

I just wish people would keep religion out of these subjects, it has ZERO to do with stuff like this yet the petty preachers come in here quoting chapter and verse as if every single item has religious concepts.

Sorry people but only has bearing on people who believe in it, to others its as fantastical as the lochness monster and little green men.

Oh my God, now we have religious fanatics participating ...

This is one of those hoaxes, that just goes way down the drain like any other goo ...

First of all, the building of these pyramids takes generations to accomplish. Not just one or two ... and the biblical term of murdering millions of slaves to accomplish it, can be literally ignored. That is a biblical political propaganda, that can be ignored on the very basis ... that it is politically motivated.

For any such thing to take generations to accomplish, you need something that will bind the constructors, so they will not alter from the path, so to speak. Because, even if we consider pharaoe A and B, in sequence ... one will always consider himself to be greater than the other, and want the big pyramid for himself. So, you can pretty much ignore this context ... in it's entirety.

The only aspect, that would be strong enough to bind the people into building this structure in such a manner would be "religion". And there is nothing in the religious context, that makes that connection ...

You guys coming up and saying "look man, it aligns with orions belt". "Hey look, it's a starmap man". Maybe it does, and it's intregueing ... but before you can ever make the deduction, that one leads to the other being older ... you have to make a connection between the two, that shows a viable motive to do so.

And if you look at the "copper" fittings, what you come up with is a bunch of guys trying to "break" the stone inside there ... and they are probably the ones doing the starmap.

it's a hoax ...

Even IF this is a "starmap" of sorts, why is everyone concluding that it was carved in the store after it was constructed? Why couldn't it have been carved in the store while it was being transported? Maybe it was a map of sorts to help them return to their destination? Maybe there is plenty of them carved on the stones, that aren't visible? Maybe this was just a randomly placed stone that shows the carvings? It's only an 8x.8.8 inch shaft, right?

Thanks for the video posting it was very interesting. I saw an Egyptian man with one of those tall hats on and he appeared to be holding up his hand with the pointer finger up. As an art degree person this is what I see along with your star map. Look again and see if you see that...

I always thought those buildings were 12 thousand years old, and the sphynx older. No tomb, I see machinery. The water pump idea, or a battery generating electricity, or a microwave bean to fuel up UFOs as mentioned in the Ancient Alien series. I wrote a paper on the pyramid when I was twelve, thirty four years ago and thought the whole pyramid was odd. I am sure it was a gorgeous site to behold when it was brand new with the limestone siding and the gold cap stone. It was very visible from outerspace being shiny. All the mathmatical codes in the measurements are a wonder too. The new information of all the pyramids around the globe including Bosnia and China are very interesting... I am sure more and more information will pour out in the future. It is curious how so many of them have a cave system underneath. I was really fortunate to climb the Sun pyramid in Mexico, Teotewacahan when I was eighteen. When I got up there at the top I was thinking UFOs... and I did know or believe anything about that in 1983! I have also been to the dirt pyramid in MO next to Saint Louis. These structures are odd and required a great deal of effort to construct. Thanks again for posting your video.

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Interesting, i had not considered it in that context. I thought though that fairly recently some of the dating techniques were called into question over their accuracy owing to more recent scientific discoveries? I may be well off the ball with that, just something i seem to recall (with no big certainty, if i am honest). There are quite a lot of dating techniques that can be used these days. From recollection (if i am remembering correctly) one of the ones they were unsure about now was Thermoluminescence Dating.

However, i again must stress that i may be wrong on this. Something is jumping around in the old grey matter but it may not be that!

Originally posted by LightAssassin
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

So the Pyramid was built by the deceivers/angels and not your 'God', by your definition then.

The seduction actually was this Ancient knowledge and also the illusion of physicality. You still have much to learn if you think the seduction is money. It is all far greater than even you can comprehend yet and it will take much time and dedication studying many historical texts from across the world to get a better idea of the grand picture. You will already have lost if you think the universe's answers lay in just one book.

I believe Eve and Adam also believed this illusion....that all the universe's answers lay in the fruit of one tree. There is no one separate God that created this whole Universe. The beings that influenced affairs on this planet were capable of posing as wondrous, amazing, inspiring God/gods but in reality they're not that much closer to that which you might recognise as the true God than any one of us humans.

Keep studying but diversify it lest you be entrapped in the same illusionary cycle that you believe you have escaped from.

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To understand this, it's important to know why Egypt is the center of the Earth. The Egyptians left their first love. They were judged. Hermes recounts this in his prophecy of the fall of Egypt. In Isaiah 19, we know that Egypt, Israel and Syria rise again as a unified people.

If you think you can enter apart from Christ, you will be refused entry. There is only one way in.

John 10

10 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” 6 Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.

Many will try to enter in by climbing around some other way.

Go back to Hermes prophecy of Egypt to see the overall picture. Here's a thread I did on the subject: LINK

Asclepius 70.3 - 78

"Or are you ignorant, Asclepius, that Egypt is (the) image of heaven? Moreover, it is the dwelling place of heaven and all the forces that are in heaven. If it is proper for us to speak the truth, our land is (the) temple of the world. And it is proper for you not to be ignorant that a time will come in it (our land, when) Egyptians will seem to have served the divinity in vain, and all their activity in their religion will be despised. For all divinity will leave Egypt, and will flee upward to heaven. And Egypt will be widowed; it will be abandoned by the gods. For foreigners will come into Egypt, and they will rule it. Egypt! Moreover, Egyptians will be prohibited from worshipping God. Furthermore, they will come into the ultimate punishment, especially whoever among them is found worshipping (and) honoring God.

Israel has never been widowed (abandoned). Why? Because the True Lord has never left. When he came to bind the fallen beings in chains and destroyed the Earth with the flood, he the set upon the task of reclaiming what was lost. Jesus came to set the captives free.

"And in that day, the country that was more pious than all countries will become impious. No longer will it be full of temples, but it will be full of tombs. Neither will it be full of gods, but (it will be full of) corpses. Egypt! Egypt will become like the fables. And your religious objects will be [...] the marvelous things, and [...], and if your words are stones and are wonderful. And the barbarian will be better than you, Egyptian, in his religion, whether (he is) a Scythian, or the Hindus, or some other of this sort.

Do we know this to be true today of Egypt? Remember, Egypt is a picture of Earth. Don't forget this. Egypt is a living history of a dead nation. Egypt is a fable before our eyes. Only a hint of its former purpose and glory is present. As we view Egypt form the eyes of the Biblical narrative, we see the thread of God's truth moving through the lives of Enoch, Joseph and Moses.

You can read more in the thread linked above.

2 Tim 2:15

Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

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Maybe it was an old stone that was reused also. Recycling was always a big thing till recently.

reply to post by magma

But the fact is he did not.

Australian aborigines were not wiped out in the flood. There are dreamtime stories of the flood.

On topic, they have found boomerangs in the the great pyramid.

Meaning that someone left them there, or they were collected from Australia,.... or....

The knowledge to make a boomerang was around before the continents seperated.

Pangea

So there is my link for the day.

My personal opinion is that the 6 days of creation is 15 billion years. It is a expansion to compression of the same golden ratio that we see in all of nature. Time is on the same ratio. Look down a winding staircase. The steps closest to you are large. As the steps move away, they become smaller and smaller. Time works in the same way by distance and frame of reference to the observer. This is important to note when judging the overall universe against the observer collapsing the wave in time. Adam is the final state of God's creative work to construct a sentient life that is not rooted in the soil, but instead rooted in soul. The shortest day is the week we live as Adam. 7000 years. Time is compressing to a singularity, only to unfold again on the other side.

Originally posted by daaskapital

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by anon72

 

Isaiah 19:19

In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in the heart of Egypt, and a monument to the LORD at its border.

They Pyramids are a monument to the LORD. The LORD is YHVH. Yud, Hey, Vav, Hey. Each of these Hebrew letters are pictographs from Phoenician (Proto-Canaanite). Read from left to right, Behold the Hand, Behold the Nail. No other explanation of the Pyramids fit as well as the master builder himself. In Genesis 1, it's the Elohim. In Genesis 2 (2nd creation story), we are given a Lord to watch our development back to the Kingdom of God.

In Genesis 6, we see the Watchers who rejected God's plan and married women. Jesus said, the Builders rejected the Capstone. David said it first in Psalms 118.

The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone;

Jesus said it in Matthew:

Matthew 21

Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: "'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?

The Builders are the Masons. Jesus condemned them for rejecting the true Capstone. Jesus also condemned the Moneychangers (Bankers) and the False Priests (Peter). He asked Peter, "Do you love me?" three times.

The Earth was taken by these three groups. They rejected the true builder himself.

Why did Joseph need to go to Egypt to translate? Why did Moses need to be schooled in the Hermetic schools of the Egyptians? Why did Jesus travel to Egypt as a babe?

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This is what i have to say:

"And having said this Jesus smote his face with both his hands and then smote the ground with his head. And having raised his head he said: "Cursed be every one who shall into my sayings that I am the son of God."

-Gospel of Barnabas

"Verily I say unto you, the demons and reprobates with Satan shall then weep so that more water shall flow from the eyes of one of them than is in the river of Jordan. Yet shall they not see God."

The demons and reprobates are the ones who failed to listen to the Gospel of their messenger.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


The mere fact that you are only using quotes from the Bible says that you yourself have not come to have enough understanding that you can refer to the Bible in your own words...

If life is to be understood through only the words of the Bible, then why not update it to reflect the modern world? Oh yes, because that would mean the "word of God" is inaccurate...

Well, that's the way with all things. THey grow old, they need to be updated. That's the way of progress.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

The mere fact that you are only using quotes from the Bible says that you yourself have not come to have enough understanding that you can refer to the Bible in your own words...

If life is to be understood through only the words of the Bible, then why not update it to reflect the modern world? Oh yes, because that would mean the "word of God" is inaccurate...

Well, that's the way with all things. THey grow old, they need to be updated. That's the way of progress.

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This is truly about the Masons who built the ancient world. The modern world must update itself to the symbols of truth. We are the ones who lack the proper paradigm of truth. Solomon lamented this very fact in Ecclesiastes. He was a failed father and a failed husband. His son cursed him and his kingdom crumbled because he did not follow his own words given by God. He knew that this was true when he said all is vanity. His words only reflect what he didn't know at the time. The master builder himself knew that works were not the way to God. Faith places us in a proper context to truth. We seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness first, THEN all these things are added unto us as well.

Masons are seeking the leadership of other men as they build the temple with their own hands.

Acts 17

24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. 28 ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’

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