Production of Mayan documentary "Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond" steeped in intrigue...

Amazing! This is absolutely insane. What is the riddle on this incredible story? Elisabeth Thieriot executive producer of the docoumentary accused of fleeing with two dozen hard drives and 10 computer towers containing the film's footage. Also, Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History: "The use of all footage...is illegal". The documentary promised to uncover previously unseen Mayan artifacts from the sites of Calakmul in Mexico and El Mirador in Guatemala with claims of classified archeological discoveries, dire predictions and extraterrestrial contact. The film was originally planned for a late 2012.
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Ramon Carrasco Vargas of Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History, a government entity, is addressed to Thieriot and details a list of violations and warnings: "The use of all footage in both the archeological zones in Calakmul and in the Island of Jaina is unauthorized... cannot be used and is to be returned immediately."

"Filming permits granted by the National Institution of Anthropology and History were given to C. Raul Julia-Levy, which means that the filming performed on the Island of Jaina invaded federal ground."

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Are they found the ultimate proof?

This Calendar says it's going to be out by july 9th at Hotel Maya? hotelmayalongbeach.com...

reply to post by Arken


Let's hope Elisabeth Thieriot makes copies of all those hard drives and tower drives. She can send them all back and tell them to piss off and then release the film on Youtube. Funny thing here though, she is the executive producer. Doesn't that make her the one who put up all the money to make the film and do the research?

Cheers - Dave

I wonder if these are the same creators of Revelations of the Pyramids (from 2011)?

That documentary was MIND BLOWING! The implications of that documentary are staggering if you haven't already seen it DO SO NOW!

Very interesting indeed. After reading the article it appears that the producer could be a possible con man as well. Maybe they did find "real evidence" of something and this person took off with it so that it would not be released to the public, maybe they were paid by someone to do so? I can think of all kinds of random explanations but I hope we get a chance to view this documentary.

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oh my g.....!

I was interested from the start, but now...

Oh god I hope she has it all copied and safe. It's so easy to upload videos in this day and age, but what if it isn't even edited yet?

Crazy...

Originally posted by doomedtoday
Very interesting indeed. After reading the article it appears that the producer could be a possible con man as well. Maybe they did find "real evidence" of something and this person took off with it so that it would not be released to the public, maybe they were paid by someone to do so? I can think of all kinds of random explanations but I hope we get a chance to view this documentary.

I think you misunderstand... Sounds like the main man is a con man, and is on the side of the Mexican government that doesn't think this footage should exist. While the woman who took the footage is probably trying to save it from being destroyed, so it can be brought to light, not so it can be hidden.

I hope she is savy, and has balls of steel. Awesome woman if she's doing what I think she's doing.

Originally posted by icecap
I wonder if these are the same creators of Revelations of the Pyramids (from 2011)?

That documentary was MIND BLOWING! The implications of that documentary are staggering if you haven't already seen it DO SO NOW!

Thanks for that. Watching it now.

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I agree. If i had a hold of whatever information is contained on those harddrives - if it is hard evidence - and i was being told it was not allowed to be shown, i would upload it online. Otherwise shes gone through all this trouble of trying to make a documentary for nothing.

On the other hand, could this be some kind of elaborate publicity stunt to boost viewers when this is released? And we end up with a documentary full of flawed and easily explainable 'evidence'? I doubt it.

Cock and bull story.

This isn't this first time this project came up. Previously Julia-Levy (Or whoever he is) claimed that they were going to uncover a whole bunch of outrageous things in the documentary, but, were they really going to, I'm sure a press release wouldn't have been the first course of action.

Filmmaker also misquoted (lied about) something Stephen Hawking had said, not the pillar of trustworthiness.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Nothing like a classic, albeit bulky MacGuffin to boost publicity.

Who cares what the Mayans thought about 2012? They killed thousands of people as sacrifices to their Gods. It is the last people I want to take advice from.

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like today for their god "gold and oil"...



anyway - i was sceptic from the begining about that movie...and now they realized they cannot make a good one/expectations are too high, they say "stolen"...story sounds fishy...

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Who cares what the Mayans thought about 2012? They killed thousands of people as sacrifices to their Gods. It is the last people I want to take advice from.

Yeah, totally... While we are at it, let's just throw out their precious little calendar that is nearly as accurate as the Atomic Clock, because that must be BS too... They weren't smart they probably just got lucky with that one. Kind of like if we ever found out that Einstein was a serial killer in secret. "Whoop, there goes all of his work, right out the window, because he's the last person we want to take advice from!" That being said, of course we know that nobody is right all the time so I'm not gonna trust anything too much. I just think your logic is a little flawed there, buddy... plus you're lumping them all together racially... So, by your logic, I should never ever trust what an Arabian person says because some Arabian people were crazy suicide bombers. Better throw out our whole concept of numbers which came from Arabians! Go back to Roman numerals or whatever... Oh wait! They did a few things I don't approve of either... So... Just no number system at all, just to be safe. We dont need mathmatics anyways... It's history is too tainted with violence, hence we must forget it ever existed. But maybe.... Just maybe... No, forget it, that's crazy... I was gonna say that maybe SOME of the Maya participated in human sacrifice, and SOME were more like scientists who studied the stars and the concept of time, but no that's just crazy.. you're idea makes more sense that every single person of Maya ancestry has sacrificed a human before and so they are all nutjobs... The absolute last people we would ever want to take advice from, as you so wisely put it. Somebody get this guy a cigar! Or a trophy, or whatever else he wants to represent his vast accomplishments in the field of logic...

Maybe it's this story they should be making a movie out of. It has all the elements needed except a love triangle of some kind. Seriously, it all sounds like a con job by a group of grifters who can't agree on how the sting should work.

Giving them the benefit of the doubt though, I suppose if there were something a certain group of individuals didn't want revealed to the public, this would be one way to go about stopping it. Discredit the whole project.

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While we are at it, let's just throw out their precious little calendar that is nearly as accurate as the Atomic Clock, because that must be BS too

While the calendar is quite accurate (only a few minutes off on constellation placements ) it in no way ever predicted the end of the world, or anything even remotely close to it.

I agree, we can't ignore the calendar because of the deeds of those who created it, we can't just make up crap and pretend they said it, which is what this documentary is probably going to do anyway.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Who cares what the Mayans thought about 2012? They killed thousands of people as sacrifices to their Gods. It is the last people I want to take advice from.

Everybody that we "take advice from" has killed thousands of people...

Should we not use our calendar either, to tell time??
Should we not learn about the Romans??
We shouldn't be writing in English either?
Can't do math without the Arabs...

It's not about getting advice, it's about learning history.
Come on now man.

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters

While the calendar is quite accurate (only a few minutes off on constellation placements ) it in no way ever predicted the end of the world, or anything even remotely close to it.

people always say this. Are you speaking out of fear. NO they never said that, but their calendar IS more accurate. It is 13.0.0.0.0 it is YEAR ZERO... If you know anything about them. Different times have different feels. They did make predictions based on which piece of time we are in.

What 2012 really means is the Next Cycle. The 5th or 6th Sun (not new sun's, but new cycles)
Isn't that interesting enough without bringing the END of the Worlds into it?

You guys just keep copying things you hear, because why? Cannot you study something for yourself? I've known about 2012 for a long time, and I never took it as an end, but as a beginning of a new time period.
I did my own research, and read about actual evidence...

The Mayan calendar matches up more with the cycle of Yuga's, than with the Christian Apocalypse. Quit believing mainstream,

they are Baiting and Switching.
"Look the world will end the mayan calendar says so."
"2012 2012 oh my god."
"we were wrong it means nothing."
"don't pay any attention to anything the mayans had."
"it's all fake."

lol you guys... Gullible...

~Dusty

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I could have tried to say it better myself but there is no way I could have.

It is very telling just how intelligent people are, sometimes by just a single post.

Originally posted by Dustytoad
reply to post by Arken

 

Sounds like the main man is a con man, and is on the side of the Mexican government that doesn't think this footage should exist. While the woman who took the footage is probably trying to save it from being destroyed, so it can be brought to light, not so it can be hidden.

I hope she is savy, and has balls of steel. Awesome woman if she's doing what I think she's doing.

edit on 5/29/2012 by Dustytoad because: (no reason given)

The following is my take on it if we are to theorize that the info that have been made in the Media since the get go about the project, is correct: While it may indeed be true that Raul-Julia Levy is not who he says he is, I nonetheless cannot see this in any other way than that SHE is the one not wanting something to "get out", as she is the one fleeing with it(What does she want to hide?).
After all, the initial story, was that the Mexican Government was agreeing to this production, and also agreed to supply with the (claimed)classified sites and material on the condition that the Documentary would have an initial Theatrical release firstly and not be a mere TV-show or the like.

So, if anything, she, so far, seem to be the villain in this scenario. Although ofcourse, that could turn out to be wrong. I am merely saying what the info so far seems to point towards.

Originally posted by 3n19m470

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Who cares what the Mayans thought about 2012? They killed thousands of people as sacrifices to their Gods. It is the last people I want to take advice from.

Yeah, totally... While we are at it, let's just throw out their precious little calendar that is nearly as accurate as the Atomic Clock, because that must be BS too... They weren't smart they probably just got lucky with that one. Kind of like if we ever found out that Einstein was a serial killer in secret. "Whoop, there goes all of his work, right out the window, because he's the last person we want to take advice from!" That being said, of course we know that nobody is right all the time so I'm not gonna trust anything too much. I just think your logic is a little flawed there, buddy... plus you're lumping them all together racially... So, by your logic, I should never ever trust what an Arabian person says because some Arabian people were crazy suicide bombers. Better throw out our whole concept of numbers which came from Arabians! Go back to Roman numerals or whatever... Oh wait! They did a few things I don't approve of either... So... Just no number system at all, just to be safe. We dont need mathmatics anyways... It's history is too tainted with violence, hence we must forget it ever existed. But maybe.... Just maybe... No, forget it, that's crazy... I was gonna say that maybe SOME of the Maya participated in human sacrifice, and SOME were more like scientists who studied the stars and the concept of time, but no that's just crazy.. you're idea makes more sense that every single person of Maya ancestry has sacrificed a human before and so they are all nutjobs... The absolute last people we would ever want to take advice from, as you so wisely put it. Somebody get this guy a cigar! Or a trophy, or whatever else he wants to represent his vast accomplishments in the field of logic...

edit on 29-5-2012 by 3n19m470 because: spelling mathmatics

...i like you

Hmmmmm well if a documentary I was involved with had implications such as this would I want to edit out all the weird crazy stuff as the govnt would want or would I try to make copies that were not edited and lost forever? Maybe thats why she ran... ??? I really hope we get to see it now!!