9/11 INTERCEPTED

Originally posted by Furbs
One bad apple spoils a bushel, friend. If John Lear is welcomed on that list, the rest are suspect without inquiry.

Wait, I though you said it was "people". Now it's only "one bad apple"?

With that logic, all Flight Engineers, ATP's, LR type rated pilots, ATC certificated controllers (the list goes on), are all "bad apples" due to the fact John Lear is also on those lists of people.

Nice try Furbs, but I don't think many people will buy your painting with a broad brush, especially considering the fact that John Lear has achievements in aviation of what only many others can dream.

Originally posted by misfitofscience
Listen, Pilots are full of # and try to make themselves seem better than an over sized taxi driver, That is all that they are! They know they are nothing more, so they try to make up for it by reading "smart" magazines like playboy and hustler. You don't have to have a college diploma or a university degree to be pilot, if you had to, there would be many a fewer pilots.

Dont know if your trolling or not, and Id hope someone will have corrected you in this thread already, but I think you maybe need to take another look at what pilots need to know to be able to fly on a private basis, let alone be a commercial pilot. Sure, you're probably right that they dont have a specialised degree, but they do have to have a good knowledge of numerous subjects. At the very least they have to have a good grasp of Mathematics, Aerodynamics and Meteorology.

My brother is a commercial pilot, and I am constantly surprised by the depth of knowledge he has in each of the subjects i mentioned and more. He also has to have a good knowledge of High Altitude Spraying equipment......

Originally posted by TexasStyle

Originally posted by Furbs
One bad apple spoils a bushel, friend. If John Lear is welcomed on that list, the rest are suspect without inquiry.

Wait, I though you said it was "people". Now it's only "one bad apple"?

With that logic, all Flight Engineers, ATP's, LR type rated pilots, ATC certificated controllers (the list goes on), are all "bad apples" due to the fact John Lear is also on those lists of people.

Nice try Furbs, but I don't think many people will buy your painting with a broad brush, especially considering the fact that John Lear has achievements in aviation of what only many others can dream.

edit on 25-5-2012 by TexasStyle because: (no reason given)

If they choose to be associated with and stand behind John Lear knowing the kinds of madness he espouses, then yes, they are also subject to being suspect without inquiry.

I don't understand what is hard to understand about this.

Originally posted by Furbs
If they choose to be associated with and stand behind John Lear knowing the kinds of madness he espouses, then yes, they are also subject to being suspect without inquiry.

I don't understand what is hard to understand about this.

So should all Learjet's be grounded due to the fact John Lear helped with the flight testing?

John Lear did not create the video in the OP. He isn't even credited as a consultant. In fact, Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not "stand behind" John Lear, it is John Lear who stands behind the work of Pilots For 9/11 Truth. Click and listen.

First it is "people" in your claim. When called on it, now it is "one bad apple". Now that you know that John Lear didn't even have a hand in the OP video, what's next? Are you ever going to address the OP video? Or are you just trying to find excuses to not learn the truth due to what you feel is "one bad apple" (who also happens to hold world records in aviation, yet you do not know one pilot, nor have any flight experience of yourself). Tell us Furbs, why should anyone listen to you?

Originally posted by TexasStyle

Originally posted by Furbs
If they choose to be associated with and stand behind John Lear knowing the kinds of madness he espouses, then yes, they are also subject to being suspect without inquiry.

I don't understand what is hard to understand about this.

So should all Learjet's be grounded due to the fact John Lear helped with the flight testing?

John Lear did not create the video in the OP. He isn't even credited as a consultant. In fact, Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not "stand behind" John Lear, it is John Lear who stands behind the work of Pilots For 9/11 Truth. Click and listen.

First it is "people" in your claim. When called on it, now it is "one bad apple". Now that you know that John Lear didn't even have a hand in the OP video, what's next? Are you ever going to address the OP video? Or are you just trying to find excuses to not learn the truth due to what you feel is "one bad apple" (who also happens to hold world records in aviation, yet you do not know one pilot, nor have any flight experience of yourself). Tell us Furbs, why should anyone listen to you?

edit on 25-5-2012 by TexasStyle because: (no reason given)

I don't believe that I mentioned the OP or his video. As I stated before, anyone who stands with John Lear as credible is suspect without inquiry. Like I said from the beginning, the list that was put together would have merit if certain individuals weren't on it.

The idea that a movement wants to count proponents of ideas like soul collectors and moon mining aliens amongst them is telling.

Originally posted by Furbs
I don't believe that I mentioned the OP or his video.

Exactly. Some people might call that off-topic. Others may consider your style a textbook tactic of Truth Suppression.

You are avoiding the OP in attempt to paint the whole subject as discredited by the beliefs of one person. (Well, you first tried to claim "people" held such beliefs, but then changed your tune to "one bad apple").

Your tactics are transparent.

As I stated before, anyone who stands with John Lear as credible is suspect without inquiry.

And as I asked which you failed to answer, "[are]..all Flight Engineers, ATP's, LR type rated pilots, ATC certificated controllers (the list goes on), all "bad apples" due to the fact John Lear is also on those lists of people?

The idea that a movement wants to count proponents of ideas like soul collectors and moon mining aliens amongst them is telling.

Yes, and with that same logic, any Christian can say that any organization is fully discredited because an Atheist is on their list of supporters.

Or how about this? A company is fully discredited because one employee believes in anything they are told by the government, without question....? If they fired such an employee, the company may now have some credibility?

Furbs, when will you address the points raised in the OP video? We are now on page 8.

There was far too much confusion on the morning of September 11. We had professionals in positions of protecting our airspace acting like the Marx brothers, fumbling their way through this crisis. Far too many things don't add up about the whole alleged "attack" on our country that morning. Those in power, that either let this happen, or orchestrated this, should be arrested, and spend the rest of their lives behind bars.

Originally posted by TexasStyle

So what do we call you now?

Cowboy Bob Balsamo?

or Captain Cowboy?

Really Cappy Booby... another sock puppet?

I was flying to Florida a few weeks ago and introduced myself to the pilot...praying that his name wasn't "Bob" or "Rob". Thank God for small favors.

Originally posted by Six Sigma


So what do we call you now?

Cowboy Bob Balsamo?

or Captain Cowboy?

Really Cappy Booby... another sock puppet?

I was flying to Florida a few weeks ago and introduced myself to the pilot...praying that his name wasn't "Bob" or "Rob". Thank God for small favors.

Dang, you nailed him before I did. I was expecting him. So Bobby Sox is back, now the fun can really start.

Originally posted by Six Sigma
So what do we call you now?

Cowboy Bob Balsamo?

or Captain Cowboy?

Really Cappy Booby... another sock puppet?

I was flying to Florida a few weeks ago and introduced myself to the pilot...praying that his name wasn't "Bob" or "Rob". Thank God for small favors.

lol... next time you board, you may want to vet each name on this list... or... take the train. Given the fact that P4T covers most major airlines and every branch of the Military (and the list is growing), combined with your apparent paranoia, you should be ok on the train.

Any time you wish to address the points raised in the OP, let us know.

Originally posted by waypastvne


Dang, you nailed him before I did. I was expecting him. So Bobby Sox is back, now the fun can really start.

He must visit this site daily, praying that someone will start a thread with his garbage mentioned....then he makes another sock and joins the conversation.

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by Six Sigma


So what do we call you now?

Cowboy Bob Balsamo?

or Captain Cowboy?

Really Cappy Booby... another sock puppet?

I was flying to Florida a few weeks ago and introduced myself to the pilot...praying that his name wasn't "Bob" or "Rob". Thank God for small favors.

Dang, you nailed him before I did. I was expecting him. So Bobby Sox is back, now the fun can really start.

I assume your real name is "waypastvne"?

Have you ever flown 150 knots past Vne and remained in control, stable or the aircraft held together?? Willing to put your name to that? Have you found anyone that is willing?

Didn't think so....

You've had what, 3 years and still you have nothing but your obsession with the work of P4T from behind your sock, never able to confront anyone at P4T.

Originally posted by Six Sigma

Originally posted by waypastvne


Dang, you nailed him before I did. I was expecting him. So Bobby Sox is back, now the fun can really start.

He must visit this site daily, praying that someone will start a thread with his garbage mentioned....then he makes another sock and joins the conversation.

Actually, we are getting a TON of hit referrals from this page.

What's your excuse for being here?

Originally posted by TexasStyle


lol... next time you board, you may want to vet each name on this list... or... take the train. Given the fact that P4T covers most major airlines and every branch of the Military (and the list is growing), combined with your apparent paranoia, you should be ok on the train.

Any time you wish to address the points raised in the OP, let us know.

I would rather not give Tea Bagged Balsamo any clicks on his clap trap of a website.

Originally posted by Six Sigma

I would rather not give Tea Bagged Balsamo any clicks on his clap trap of a website.

Not surprising, since you have nothing to contribute to the discussion of the OP aside from your High School insults. But ton's of others are clicking...

Originally posted by TexasStyle




You've had what, 3 years and still you have nothing but your obsession with the work of P4T from behind your sock, never able to confront anyone at P4T.

HAHAHAHA Balsamo... you are the king of socks. How many have you made here? Nobody is obsessed with you! We are laughing at you!

Originally posted by TexasStyle

Originally posted by Furbs
I don't believe that I mentioned the OP or his video.

Exactly. Some people might call that off-topic. Others may consider your style a textbook tactic of Truth Suppression.

You are avoiding the OP in attempt to paint the whole subject as discredited by the beliefs of one person. (Well, you first tried to claim "people" held such beliefs, but then changed your tune to "one bad apple").

Your tactics are transparent.

As I stated before, anyone who stands with John Lear as credible is suspect without inquiry.

And as I asked which you failed to answer, "[are]..all Flight Engineers, ATP's, LR type rated pilots, ATC certificated controllers (the list goes on), all "bad apples" due to the fact John Lear is also on those lists of people?

The idea that a movement wants to count proponents of ideas like soul collectors and moon mining aliens amongst them is telling.

Yes, and with that same logic, any Christian can say that any organization is fully discredited because an Atheist is on their list of supporters.

Or how about this? A company is fully discredited because one employee believes in anything they are told by the government, without question....? If they fired such an employee, the company may now have some credibility?

Furbs, when will you address the points raised in the OP video? We are now on page 8.

edit on 25-5-2012 by TexasStyle because: (no reason given)

You are correct. Any christian can claim that, and it is a totally viable opinion. Companies hire and fire people all the time based on things like personal beliefs. Some are protected, like religion. Some are not protected, like conspiracy theorizing. Some are semi-protected, like homosexuality. JCPenney was the target of a major boycott because one of their employees, Ellen DeGeneres, is a homosexual. Those involved with the boycott believed that their entire company was worth less now because of the company backing one person with whom they took exception.

I'm not interested in rehashing this 'documentary', any more than was already addressed. It is based on supposition from people that do not believe the evidence that they requested from the government because it doesn't fit into their perception of what happened.

Originally posted by TexasStyle

But ton's of others are clicking...

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Oh yeah... your site is really raking up the traffic!!!

I heard your chip in took several months to raise 1K. Is that true? What was that for? A new futon mattress in your buddies basement?

Originally posted by Furbs
I'm not interested in rehashing this 'documentary', any more than was already addressed.

And yet you have never addressed it. In fact, all you did was attempt to paint a whole organization with the belief of one person, a person who holds records in aviation, has every certificate issued by the FAA, and is well respected in the aviation community... while you don't even know a pilot.

For the readers, I will probably be banned soon, but you can come to our website/forum to read these pages in full. They will all be saved before the ATS "Ministry Of Truth" comes in and sanitizes the discussion.

Regards,
Rob Balsamo
Co-Founder
PilotsFor911Truth.org

(thanks again for posting the video OP!)

Originally posted by TexasStyle

Originally posted by Furbs
I'm not interested in rehashing this 'documentary', any more than was already addressed.

And yet you have never addressed it. In fact, all you did was attempt to paint a whole organization with the belief of one person, a person who holds records in aviation, has every certificate issued by the FAA, and is well respected in the aviation community... while you don't even know a pilot.

For the readers, I will probably be banned soon, but you can come to our website/forum to read these pages in full. They will all be saved before the ATS "Ministry Of Truth" comes in and sanitizes the discussion.

Regards,
Rob Balsamo
Co-Founder
PilotsFor911Truth.org

(thanks again for posting the video OP!)

Good luck, Rob Balsamo. Wrap yourself in the credentials of a man that believes aliens harvest our souls from outer space and continue to try to be taken seriously.