Observing one UFO/Alien incident, what would it be???

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by Orkojoker

 

Good one. That one as well would be great to see. Of course they said that one as well were "flares"..

-SAP-

Yeah, the arc of lights that the news always shows apparently WAS flares. Those were dropped around 10:00 pm, about two hours after people in the northern part of the state started reporting a giant, low-flying boomerang shaped object with large, orange lights on the bottom.

Originally posted by Orkojoker

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by Orkojoker

 

Good one. That one as well would be great to see. Of course they said that one as well were "flares"..

-SAP-

Yeah, the arc of lights that the news always shows apparently WAS flares. Those were dropped around 10:00 pm, about two hours after people in the northern part of the state started reporting a giant, low-flying boomerang shaped object with large, orange lights on the bottom.

edit on 24-5-2012 by Orkojoker because: (no reason given)

They tried to get a cover story up there ASAP..... Too bad it WAS 2 hours too late....

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Yea, thats a very interesting story indeed, and somewhat terrifying... Its crazy how the one guy goes into detail that when the 2 aliens grabbed his body he went totally numb... Alien abduction is definitely one of those crazy topics becasue I always wonder if I was the abductee would I tell the world about it or keep it to myself... My guess is that most people (who have a recollection of being abducted) probably keep it to themselves...

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I think being in Los Angeles for the battle would have been really cool. But I think my second choice would have to be to be in Antartica when Admiral Byrd was there.

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I'm kind of on the fence with this one though. Because like most sightings, and with a craft that large, there would have been sightings from either east/west whichever way it would have been traveling. As I recall there wasn't any other sightings then in Phenoix...

Correct me if I am wrong on that one.

-SAP-


I stand corrected. There were sightings in different states and in Mexico.

The Phoenix Lights (sometimes called the "Lights over Phoenix") were a series of widely sighted unidentified flying objects observed in the skies over the U.S. states of Arizona, Nevada and the Mexican state of Sonora on March 13, 1997.

Lights of varying descriptions were seen by thousands of people between 19:30 and 22:30 MST, in a space of about 300 miles (480 km), from the Nevada line, through Phoenix, to the edge of Tucson. There were two distinct events involved in the incident: a triangular formation of lights seen to pass over the state, and a series of stationary lights seen in the Phoenix area. The United States Air Force identified the second group of lights as flares dropped by A-10 Warthog aircraft that were on training exercises at the Barry Goldwater Range in southwest Arizona. Witnesses claim to have observed a huge carpenter's square-shaped UFO, containing five spherical lights or possibly light-emitting engines. Fife Symington,[2] the governor at the time, was one witness to this incident; he later called the object "otherworldly."[3]

The lights were reported to have reappeared in 2007 and 2008, but these events were quickly attributed to (respectively) military flares dropped by fighter aircraft at Luke Air Force Base[4][5] and flares attached to helium balloons released by a civilian.

-SAP-

Just an FYI, and not a criticism on the topic, but the Phil Schneider Dulce story shootout is a complete lie.

Phil Schneider had ongoing long lasting mental problems as attested to by his own wife.
His story about his father being a German U-Boat commander during WWII is easily checked out by going to uboat.net where every German u-boat built, or even planned, even the highly secret ones is listed with complete information on commanders, crew, tours, and everything or anything else documented so meticulously by the Germans who were so OCD about documenting everything.

HERE, in the myths section, related to Phil Schneider's father is this bit titled:
Kptlt. Otto Oscar Schneider on US secret projects

There is a story floating around that this said U-boat commander worked on some highly classified US National Secrets after the war. I believe he is reported to have been a commander of a VIIC or IXC U-boat in the Atlantic during the war.

The simple answer to this one is that there was no U-boat commander in WWII with that name. Only 2 commanders with that last name in the war; Herbert Schneider died while in command of U-522 and Manfred Schneider only commander the small XXIII boat U-4706 for the last 3 months of the war, never on patrol. This story is just that, a story.

Thus, with Phil Schneider's wife attesting to his own mental instability, and penchant for wild fantasies and lies, plus easily found documentation verifying the tall tales about his father are lies, the rest of his story about a shootout at OK Corral Dulce underground base falls to pieces.

Chances of a big shootout at Dulce which may or may not have an underground base being reality? Very Low.

Please note, again, this is just an FYI.

In regards to where would I like to be as an observer? Well, all of them, with a portable aircraft carrier in a lunchbox worth of scientific monitoring and recording equipment including nanometer scale video recording. (which is something I just made up) since we're pretending anyway.

All the future and imaginary equipment I'd like to take for observation would likely require me to have my own UFO type craft to travel back in time for such observations such that on reaching the point in time to make an observation I find that my own UFO observing vehicle is the actual cause of the historical sighting.

Originally posted by Isis1967
reply to post by jhn7537

 

I think being in Los Angeles for the battle would have been really cool. But I think my second choice would have to be to be in Antartica when Admiral Byrd was there.

the hollow earth theory and Admiral Byrd is a great one too... What I like about that story is that its coming from a decorated naval officer... I always give stories that involve military men a little more validity, not sure why though...

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Think it would have to be this one from Chile where a very strange object with portholes emitted a beam of light at police officers (and exhibited EM effects on their patrol car) before moving 'extremely fast' out towards the ocean where it circled twice around a fishing vessel before submerging into the sea -very strange case!

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Well thats the whole idea of this thread, if its not true, I would be there to observe nothing happening ...... But I do believe there is still A LOT of mystery with the Dulce Base in general... I understand the Phil Schneider and Thomas Castello arent the most credible of guys, but you just never know... I do find it interesting that the native people who live around that Mesa tend to see military aircrafts and UFO's in the area on a pretty regular basis, and its reported that some of them know of where the entrances are to the base and where the air ducts are to the underground base.... Either way, its a crazy crazy story that i learned some time ago that still has my interest today...

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There are other people who went to investigate the Dulce base as well. Two former police officers retired from the force and went, for lack of a better word, UFO hunting. The have both starred on UFO Hunters. I couldn't find anything about them specifically but they two found that there are some strange things going on around the Mesa.

Dulce Base is an alleged secret alien underground facility under Archuleta Mesa on the Colorado-New Mexico border near the town of Dulce, New Mexico in the United States. Claims of alien activity there first arose from Albuquerque businessman Paul Bennewitz.

-SAP-

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It'd be very cool to go back and see what the hell happened with Betty and Barney Hill. If any of that happened in a real, physical way, it's pretty dark stuff!

Otherwise, the 1954 French Encounters Wave.A hundred reports of strange humanoids doing unusual stuff flashed across the French media in a few months. It'd be key to understanding UFO phenomena to see if any of these reports involved physical sightings or psychological experiences.

One of my favourite accounts is that of the Texas 1965 report by two sherrifs. One was allegedly healed by a UFO, MiB were involved and they allegedly encountered a solid-object UFO that cast shadows. Amazing stuff.

The best thing about finding out would be certainty. If none of it happened, I could walk away from this subject and stop wasting time with it. If *any* of it happened, we'd be looking at a whole new world.

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by jhn7537

 

There are other people who went to investigate the Dulce base as well. Two former police officers retired from the force and went, for lack of a better word, UFO hunting. The have both starred on UFO Hunters. I couldn't find anything about them specifically but they two found that there are some strange things going on around the Mesa.

Dulce Base is an alleged secret alien underground facility under Archuleta Mesa on the Colorado-New Mexico border near the town of Dulce, New Mexico in the United States. Claims of alien activity there first arose from Albuquerque businessman Paul Bennewitz.

-SAP-

I know the 2 guys you are talking about. They were also on the Dugway Proving Ground episode too.. I believe those 2 ex-cops spoke with a Jicarilla Trooper when they were researching Dulce and when the ex-cop asked the Jicarilla trooper about the 1979 shoot out, the trooper replied that it did happen and they arent allowed to speak about it...

Here is the clip from the UFO Hunters episode... Go to 3:30 to see the beginning of the interview, 4:30 is when they discuss the fire fight of 1979..

www.youtube.com...

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Dear jhn7537

For me I would have to go back too ones that you can touch sniff bight if necessary.

So number one would have to be Roswell and two would be Admiral Byrd’s project high jump. I want to be on that C47.

For both you need Harry Potter’s invisibility cloak. So you can hear unobstructed what they are saying.

Both are subject too massive lies by the TPTB.

Shag Harbor or the Kecksburg incident were two very interesting cases I would have liked to witness. Also, it seemed like there could be something with the Cash/Landrum case.

S&F OP!
great topic, there are just so many to choose from so...i shall make a list.

1) travis Walton abduction (fire in the sky)
2)Shag Harbor sighting
3)Skinwalker Ranch (Whitley Strieber/multiple events)
4)Rendalsham/Bentwaters
5)Pheonix Lights

well, those are my top five anywho, i'm sure most members in this particular region of the forum are familiar with most if not all of the incidents i mentioned. being there would just be icing on the cake so to speak. just knowing for sure. they can't ALL be hoaxes, or at least the chances are fairly slim, though not minute. bearing witness to any one of these events would be simply exhilarating!

gah!
another one i cannot believe i forgot about:
Jonathan Reed, the man whom allegedly killed an ET after the being brutally beat his dog and subsequently transmuted the canine to a fine white powder...interesting stuff indeed.

I have been reading about ufos for about 35 years now. If anything this thread has already given me a couple of "new" casess to read about. I'm sure there will be a few more in due time. Just what I need...more fuel for the fire!

this is a pretty intriguing concept.. over recent years and a greater understanding of how things work my beliefs have shifted a bit. i do still believe other life is out there in different evolutions, more and less advanced than we are at the moment and the more advanced could have possibly figured out time travel or interdenominational travel but not likely so the shift i mentioned makes me lean more towards the "ancient alien" theories so my answer to your question would be that i'd like to travel back in time throughout different periods in our ancient history to see if they actually did dabble with our dna and to what impact they had toward humans whether it was making us think they where indeed gods or whatever.. i'd love to see if the ancient alien theory is indeed fact because as open minded as i am it's more believable to me than any picture or video of any jiggly and out of focus ufo we have today. the cave paintings, pictorial glyphs and hieroglyphic evidence are way more believable than the pic's and videos and also can't be faked like 99% of all evidence today.

i would have to pick one of those outer space ufo/lens flare incidences. i don't know the names of them, nor do i feel like searching for the links, but for example, the one from the chinese i saw on ats not too long ago. or just the random things we see on video from the iss & satellites that orbit earth. all of em can't be space dust & lens flares right?

I have a few:

1.) The Philadelphia Experiment
2.) Betty & Barney Hill
3.) Kecksburg

Also, I know its not UFO related, but I would have loved to be there when Roger Patterson & Robert Gimlin caught a squatch on tape. (If it indeed is real)

Great topic OP!