Reality Is Not An Opinion

Reality is an absolute train wreck because of opinions. They spread as if they were contagious, rumors transmitted from person to person contaminating the thought pool of every individual that makes up their own personal reality. Most never stop to realize that there exists both their personality reality and objective reality. They're off in their own self-deluded shades of grey while the truth lies in black and white. The ego holds them captive, out of reach of the truth, in the form of ignoring reality. They do this by not placing any importance on things that are real and by a psychotic form of denial in which they are overcome with emotion and revert to the three year old toddler in a temper tantrum or the teenager who's losing it admist their teenage rebellion. That state of being rears its head as insults are thrown, if not a barrage of fists, only to protect its own state of reality and reject the true one.

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[Outro: Morgan Freeman] As the mask of deception falls off the face of humanity Unveiling the grim reality of duality In which everyone is a casualty, no one will be exempt.
Truth has many shades It’s not a matter of black and white, but gray.
Although many, we are one, so in the final analysis Could it be that we are fighting a war that can’t be won

B.O.B. 'Bombs Away' lyrics

Waking up to the reality that is.... scary stuff

Originally posted by Jwest06
Reality is an absolute train wreck...

Originally posted by Jwest06
...because of opinions.

Hello! I would like to introduce yourself... to yourself.

Namaste.

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I don't understand "black and white truth." If you want to literally talk about the truth of color, there are numerous colors, some invisible to the eye. Hell, you could be able to non light if your eye evolved differently. Infrared, ultraviolet, etc.

Reality IS an opinion. This universe is only real because of the beings that perceive it. Without anything perceiving the universe, there would be no reality, as the universe wouldn't exist to anyone and might as well be better off having not been created at all.

Black and white truth is saying that that there is or isn't something. Like it is either raining or it is dry. But the reality is that it is never just raining and never just dry. The fact of the matter is that there are constantly changing levels of humidity, retained ground moisture, constantly fluxing levels of atmosphere, etc. It may be raining, yes, but the size and length of a storm varies, as does the size of the rain drop itself.

Black and white truth says you are alive or you are dead, ignoring mental and physical growth and the stages birth and death.

There is no This and That. There is no A and B. There is the entire alphabet. There are only states of matter and mind that materialize at different degrees due to the also constantly fluxing properties of the worlds outside and within.

So why is truth black and white to you?

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Reality is an absolute train wreck because of opinions.

That of course...

Is your opinion...

And i disagree with it

Things are or aren't. An opinion muddies the waters and creates conflict where there should be none. It's much like the notion of trying. You do or you don't, there is no try.

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HA! I think I like this thread.....MUCHLY!!!!!

As for this itself being an opinion, it is merely what I have observed without adding my own feelings to the mix.

Originally posted by Jwest06
As for this itself being an opinion...

Originally posted by Jwest06
...it is merely what I have observed...

Originally posted by Jwest06
...without adding my own feelings to the mix.

Hello there again! You're still in there.

Namaste.

Originally posted by ErgoTheConfusion

Originally posted by Jwest06
As for this itself being an opinion...

Originally posted by Jwest06
...it is merely what I have observed...

Originally posted by Jwest06
...without adding my own feelings to the mix.

Hello there again! You're still in there.

Namaste.

edit on 2012/5/23 by ErgoTheConfusion because: (no reason given)

Was I supposed to be somewhere else?

For further clarification, if you've ever had an epiphany about yourself in which you realize you're doing something that you would not generally approve of, it's always been there. You wouldn't have noticed with the epiphany if it was not, yet there was a good deal of time spent oblivious to the action. That protection from seeing things as they are is the ego. It's your own personal filter for shading the truth.

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Ok, so I either have a computer or I don't. The computer is there, or it isn't there. I get that. But what if it is there but the screen is broken. The computer is still there but no longer functional, because in order for the computer to work, all of the things that make the computer up have to work. And if it is there, and working, my computer's specifications are definitely different than yours. So isn't this "computer truth" not a black and white issue?

Furthermore, you may claim that the material to build those parts may have always been here, but I would claim it is because of someones opinion, that those came to be, and thus become a reality.

Originally posted by Jwest06
Was I supposed to be somewhere else?

It is impossible to be anywhere but where you are. Or be anyone but who you are. This is one of the absolute truths you speak of.

However you don't seem to recognize yourself yet and are blaming the mirror. This is a destructive opinion you speak of.

Existence is not an opinion. Your existence is an opinion, and every observation you make is filtered through that opinion.

Namaste.

And here I thought this was a little too obvious to post lol. (an opinion which was wrong)

On the mirror comment, no one can live a life on this planet without their ego. The goal is to lessen its impact. The only thing that I can learn and share are the things that I've picked up through my path, my own personal experiences.

The computer example confused the issue. The specs or the broken monitor don't change anything. Instead of having a "computer", you have a "computer with such and such specs" or a "computer with a broken monitor". It's still black and white regardless of whether you leave out the details or not.

Originally posted by Jwest06
On the mirror comment, no one can live a life on this planet without their ego. The goal is to lessen its impact. The only thing that I can learn and share are the things that I've picked up through my path, my own personal experiences.

But where did the opinion come from? Where did the ego come from? "Who" is the "One" trying to live life on this planet with an ego? Who is it that is behind the ego?

You are speaking like one tree branch that is "blaming" yourself and other branches for the variety of leaves and fruit produced without recognizing you come from the same trunk and roots.

When you accept "you" are not just metaphorically but literally that other person with an opinion you disagree with, then the clarity for the different opinions and our experience of trying to sort through them together becomes clear.

The absolute truth is static... blissful but static.

Life and experience come from the relative truths interacting. Who/what is it that came up with the idea of relative truths?

The Truth is aware of itself, and it/you/me/we are choosing to play at "if you show me yours I'll show you mine" relative truths. That's the thrill, the electricity, the drama.

Since the truth can never be anything but what it is, there is no harm in "pretending" to be something it's not to see what it feels like. It will never cease to be the truth.

We're here to be honest about what it feels like to be our own truth while starting out ignoring our own truth. However our truth is always relative to another's truth and there is no way around it without reaching a point of static zero motion experience.

It is TRUE that I enjoy green tea. It is TRUE that I used to not enjoy green tea. Which is actually true?

No opinion can be true or untrue... merely effective or ineffective in the current environment it is being expressed.

Namaste.

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But how? Please explain more, and please explain how exactly it is a bad thing to think in shades of gray? I think black and white thinking is way too simple and that it ignore time, and with time, ignores change. So, I would like to know your reasoning. Yea, there could be nothing and then something like you said, but to immediately go from A to Z leaves out the 24 letters in between.

People argue politics, religion, ethics, conspiracies, etc., and it's all based in opinion when there are facts available. The actions of a politician are not opinion, they're facts, and there's no need for a back and forth about why this particular individual is good or bad. He has a pattern of things he's done and that's likely to continue.

With conspiracies, it's muddied to a very unappealing state because of opinions. We objectively know things like mercury is toxic and shouldn't be shot up in the veins via vaccines. It has consequences. Whether or not the person likes vaccines is irrelevant. On 9/11 there's no need to imply things happened this way or that way making leaps with assumptions. Upside down cars with melted doors conclusively show that there was more than a plane crash that happened at ground zero. What was it? No #ing clue.



That's not to say you can't speculate but it should be based in fact and known for speculation in which people communicate to each other in a peaceful non-hostile manner trying to reach further fact, not more opinion.

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Ah, I get it. I think I was just confused because I am pretty much a nihilist who believes that until there is proof of reincarnation or heaven / hell, there is no objective truth I can believe in except the fact that I am here experiencing something right now, whatever this universe really is. As far as I can say, we are born without any say in the matter, we die without any say in the matter, and since nobody has ever come back from the dead to talk about it, I will assume that when I die, my memories and experiences are lost forever, to the worms, to heaven, or to a new body.

I believe in science, and from what I know, there was also a time before any organism started perceiving the universe, and that sometime in the distant, distant future, there will probably be a time where there is once again nothing experiencing the universe. Therefore, reality is the result of something experiencing the universe. Without that something to react to the universe, the universe will still be there, but there will be no ultimate reality to it as nothing knows of its existence.


We all act on what we feel is real and is truth. We live completely subjective realities, as opposed to the universe, which will do its own thing without us. Until we can manipulate matter, reality will only be an opinion.

Reality is not an opinion, but ANYTHING that could possibly be said about reality IS an opinion. Sounds like you have some opinions in OP...

Originally posted by TheJourney
Reality is not an opinion, but ANYTHING that could possibly be said about reality IS an opinion. Sounds like you have some opinions in OP...

Thank god for you. I wrote all that crap above and you reduced it to one sentence.