Paul campaign believes GOP cheating cost Paul a win in Arizona

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by freakjive

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
So, if you have a question pertaining to the topic, by all means, go ahead and ask.

Fair enough...I'll play by your rules. I reintroduce the first two questions I asked...

Originally posted by freakjive

Do you have any comments about the corruption/cheating that the RP campaign has faced?
Do you believe that there is basis for these claims?

Seriously? I already answered this.

My comments are as follows: I find it very interesting that with all this "evidence", its only ever used as a crutch. Furthermore, I find the timing of it becoming more vocal an absolute confirmation of what I predicted a week ago: that this will be the way that RP keeps his name out there now that he can't spend any more money.

Maybe you missed it the first couple times i said it.

You're only giving me half an answer still. Am I to assume that by the use of quotations around "evidence" that you do not believe it? Please address the 2nd question and we can put this to rest.

Do you believe that there is basis for these claims?

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Do you care to link to the post where you made that prediction?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by frazzle
Obama will eat Romney for lunch, so unless you want another four years of Obama you'll get behind Paul's call for an above board election because his supporters will never support Romney.

Check out my avatar. I DO want 4 more years of Obama.

But this thread isn't about Obama. It's about Ron Paul and the cheating GOP.

No, but it explains your position very well. You know Ron Paul would pull many democrats who are sick of Obama's lies over to his side and Romney would not endanger your hero one iota because NObody likes him for president. Makes cheating okay I suppose.

Oh, and I'm sure you're aware that there are just as many big shot democrats living the high life who don't want their lifestyles damaged by an upstart president who gives two ^^^^s about the fact that this country is the Titanic writ large. Enjoy the sea life on the way down.

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I dont claim to know either way, which is why I am not giving a specific answer. The thing I do know, though, is that the burden is on the accuser.

And no, i dont care to link the thread, as I never said I made the prediction on ATS. We arent talking about an earthquake prediction here. I said it in a conversation with a colleague, and so far, its looking like I am correct. Whether or not you believe I made the prediction is irrelevant, as I am saying it is now happening, which is the point.

Funny, though, that you have not one single comment on my answer to your questions.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Funny, though, that you have not one single comment on my answer to your questions.

It appears you're being intentionally obtuse. Please have a look-see at the first page where I addressed your answer.

Originally posted by freakjive

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

I have stated my thoughts on the cheating/corruption many times. I find it absolutely amazing, that with all this "evidence", people only want to use it as a crutch.

I think the Paul campaign has been wise not to raise too much a fuss yet. (if ever) The problem is the majority of our populace still believe what the MSM tells them and if the RP campaign was to come out with the info, they would be made further into nutters.

The other side to that could simply be an evidence gathering period. The people running the Paul campaign are some of the brightest, most clever minds in America at this point. They may very well know of the right time to bring it all to the table.

I may stop by and drop a "snide" comment in these threads from time to time, but nowhere near as often as we see these threads continually pop up.

but for the record, my comment was not meant to be "snide". It was factually based. I predicted last week, when it was announced that RP would not spend any more money, that these cries would get louder and more frequent. Its an obvious tactic.

These threads pop up because they are warranted. There are a lot of RP supporters on our forum and there has been a conspiracy against the man and his campaign for most of my lifetime. Besides...you need a catalyst to be cynical. So, it's my gift.

As for who I support, it is none of these candidates.

Please enlighten us. Who do you support? What ideas...for what reasons? You want to constantly attack Ron Paul supporters for believing in something. Give us a chance to understand who/what you believe in.

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Romney won Arizona so whats the big deal the people voted and Ron Paul lost.So then his supporters try to upsurp the process and then accuse everyone of cheating after disrupting the caucus.I dont see how Ron paul supporters think there helping him when they make themselves look like there anti democratic and want to say we dont care how the people voted where going to screw up the caucus. Hes all ready pulled out the race and he cant help but continue to screw things up if that doesnt sum up Ron Paul i dont know what does.

Hey i got an idea why not do internet elections im sure Ron Paul could when that with his loyal supports voting multiple times like they do on the polls. Nobody took him seriously for president but at least he can go back to the libertarian party he should never have tried to pretend to be a republican.And its not to late for his supports they can vote for Gary Johnson this year.

PS just to make things clear i dont like Ron Paul in case you couldnt figure it out.But on the plus side kind of a shame he didnt win it would guarantee an Obama victory i can see Obamas campaighn now bumper stickers saying at least im not Ron Paul!

Originally posted by dragonridr
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Hey i got an idea why not do internet elections im sure Ron Paul could when that with his loyal supports voting multiple times like they do on the polls. Nobody took him seriously for president but at least he can go back to the libertarian party he should never have tried to pretend to be a republican.And its not to late for his supports they can vote for Gary Johnson this year.

Right...it was just his "internet" supporters.

Wow who would have thought you can get that many racists in one place without white robes. Did you here the mess they caused in Arizona chanting Romney is the the white Obama.” Ron Paul supporters do absolutely no good to the Ron Paul cause by painting themselves as racist.

Originally posted by dragonridr

Wow who would have thought you can get that many racists in one place without white robes. Did you here the mess they caused in Arizona chanting Romney is the the white Obama.” Ron Paul supporters do absolutely no good to the Ron Paul cause by painting themselves as racist.

Right...you rely on the "racist" attacks now.
Do you care to cite your source regarding the Arizona chant?

If you support no candidate (especially one who offers real change and you know he does based on his MSM coverage) and you have no idea's or thoughts for it at all, then you are apathetic and no better than the dirt under your feet. Our country and the world is run by cowards and we have the opportunity to put someone in charge who has brains and balls. I'm tired of living in fear. Fear of no future for our children. There is an ultimatum. Either we evolve and adapt to survive, or we perish forever. Ron Paul is no idol or beloved leader to me, he is merely a good man who's willing to take the # job and build a few steps that this country needs to regain its sovereignty, respect, and honor. These cowardice and greedy generations are literally unfolding the apparatus to destroy all life on earth, so if your still undecided or voting for some other establishment twat then please reconsider and give us the chance to make it right. The revolution is in motion with or without Doc Paul as the president, but be prepared for global war and on the home front too if he's not elected.

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You claim I'm being obtuse, yet you quote the exact place where I gave you the answers (the first time) that you then spent 3 pages claiming I didn't answer. Hmmmm.

Either way, by stating that it was "smart" to wait until later to be vocal about it, you are indeed confirming one of my points-that it is a campaign tactic.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Of course if Ron Paul doesn't win, it's because someone cheated...

It's amazing to me that Ron Paul would accuse someone of cheating and corruption when his whole entire campaign is focused on getting covert delegates to vote for him and cheat the American people out of their vote for president... :shk:

The GOP probably cheated... They do that, I've noticed... but the reason Ron Paul will LOSE this election is because he didn't get enough votes. Period.

If you mark that little bubble next to anyone other than Ron Paul you are personally responsible for all future deaths of our military personal. You are also personally responsible for any future debt that future generations have to endure.

If you don't think the wars and the debt will continue you are a fool. Not only will the wars and the debt increase, public dissent is also going to increase.

Whatever selfish reason compels you to choose anyone other than Ron Paul, be prepared to carry that weight on your shoulders for the rest of your life.

Like many people to this site I am not from the USA but all I seem to see from our media is how well Romney is doing, hardly ever a mention of Ron Paul.

I have followed as best I can of this subject through the internet. There is plenty about the apparent cheating and rule breaking but very little indicating that it is all above board, which certainly makes me wonder especially when it is not being covered by our MSM.

My view here is that if the voting process has been hijacked to the detriment of Ron Paul, it would appear that Ron Paul had very little support, which I am assuming is wrong. As an example: if 1000 people voted for Ron Paul, but only 500 were actually recorded, there would still be 1000 supporters, likewise is 500 people voted for Romney and they were reported as 1000, there would still be 500 supports.

Bearing the above in mind, what do you think will happen when the delagates are chosen using actual people who are present to vote. The person with the most supporters present would surely win.

Making assumuptions of delegates based on populas voting would be a very good guide IF all the votes were properly cast and counted.

I was taught as a child that cheats never prosper, lets hope in this case they don't.

Did you ever think that the reason Paul isnt winning is because no one is voting for him.
He may be popular here, but in the real world no one really likes Paul.
Seriously a hitler parody video ?

I've just realized what I like so much about Ron Paul
It is a one word description that tells the entire story of the true character of a man.

Ron Paul is.......TRUSTWORTHY.


I could never use that word to describe either.......President Barrack Obama or Mitt Romney
If so, I would be guilty of bearing false witness they are.......UNTRUSTWORTHY




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voting for ron paul in just a few hours just waiting for the poles ot open in arkansas baby!! RIDE THE PAUL WAVE It's GOOD!!!

Ron Paul is on the up and up.

Hooray for the Republic.