Mainstream Media IGNORES Iceland Revolution

reply to post by Thebel


Maybe they were just one of the first to fall under control of the NWO? Maybe thats why the media ignores it.

The people of the world need to DEMAND authentic FREE MARKETS. Entrepreneurship is the key. When I was five my father made me memorize how to spell and define this very important word for a reward of $5. I attribute this to my interest in economics to this day. Educate those around you and those you care about and do not be afraid to ask others for their knowledge and insight. BE HUMBLE BUT HAVE CONFIDENCE AT THE SAME TIME This is the only way. Modern Money Mechanics (Fed Propaganda) is only accepted because no one cares to read it, let only understand the dynamics. IT IS A JOKE. Rothbard proves this brilliantly in his work.

Economics is by far the most manipulated and misrepresented ‘science’ in the world. I feel Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe described this in his famous [paraphrased] quote: “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”

STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. Everything is a CHOICE. EVERYTHING no excuses. To survive we all need to play the game unfortunately. Yet, we can REJECT materialism, if you do not YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! This is how TPTB control you! Soon there will be no private property because on the unsustainable level of ‘debt’ we are accruing. In the future EVERYONE will be at the will of the RENT SEEKERS. PLEASE CHANGE YOUR PERCEPTION ON WHAT IT IS TO BE WEALTHY. Wealth is not what you HAVE, but what you can DO. Anything that can be taken from you DOES NOT COUNT AS WEALTH, please understand this.

Libertas Per Scientum.

Originally posted by Siddharta
Iceland is a fascinating country, but they have far less inhabitants than the city where I live. So it is no wonder, we hear only little from there.

This fact also lets me doubt, if they would have much influence on the rest of the world.

might as well say just take it off the map? Rhode island as well. you only matter if your in a big city in a big state?

Hate to ruin your parade. However the Icelander I spoke to says it ain't so.

Also.

www.internationalist.org...

the bank of the rottenchilds don't want any more banks to fall - trying to cork the dominoes.
bye bye elitists - it hasn't been real or fun - cept watchin' ya'all fall.

Originally posted by gentledissident

So, they're to blame for income inequality, inefficiency, and lack of central planning? Would we all be contributing to society 20 hours a week and enjoying the remainder of our time with beautiful options if it were not for them? Are you saying we could be a carefree species if unbridled unregulated capitalism were in effect? Would we have a healthy ecosystem and air quality? Would free renewable energy and abundant leisure time finally be a reality? I'm curious how a system based on accruing wealth at the expense of the worker and the customer will bring unification and release. How does what appears to be a circus run by P T Barnum himself turn into utopia?

Ah, i see, so you are one of those who want to work 2 hours a week and have the rest of the day off... Sorry to tell you that not even in socialism, nor in communism would you be able to do "whatever you want and only work 2 hours a week and make enough to pay your house, your car, have your healthcare paid off by the rest of the people as well as your education..." In socialism/communism you also must give time FREE to the state, in which you must give a certain amount of time, in communism is normally most of the summer, in which you do "hard labor, I mean Community Service"...

I know you are obviously at least socialist if not communist because of your claim that "there must be central planning"... Alongside with the rest of your...dream...

BTW, in case you didn't know your "dream" has been tried several times and it ALWAYS has ended up in dictatorship. If you want I can set you up to live with my family in Cuba so you can actually see and experience your "utopia"...

reply to post by Thebel


Or perhaps Iceland is about to become one of the first 200 or so nation states in the world to fully transit into a market state making representative government more responsible to its consumers.

Originally posted by braindeadconservatives

Never mind that the Federal Reserve is a Private Corporation

Capitalism is everywhere, stop being a foolish tart -

I paid a lot of money in exchange for this computer

I pay the bill for the electricity that runs thins computer

I pay for the gas, that runs the car that I paid for -


Duuurrr

Wow, well that does it, that avatar must really be you... First of all even in socialism/communism YOU USE MONEY, "stop being a foolish tart"...

Not to mention that there is another name for corporation in socialism/communism known as "cooperative enterprise"...

Only "foolish tarts" think that gas, and money grow on trees...

"Duuurrr"...

reply to post by gentledissident


Oh and btw, in case you didn't know, in one of the first "democracies", during the times of Plato, Aristotles, Socrates etc, it was believed that in a moral democracy every ctitizen must work for the state/government the same amount of hours used to attain money to pay for their rent/house, and their necessities. This work, to the state, must be FOR FREE, which means you work 8 more hours for the state, what socialists/communists would say "it's for the good of the collective" these days, which would give you only 8 hours for leisure, most of which you would use to sleep...

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


However, during the time of Aristotle et al., 'politics' was integral to living a virtuous life. The belief that living in a State (polis) was key to a good life permeated through the minds of leading thinkers at that time. Justice and what was the right thing to do was as much a deep question then as it remains today. Perhaps Iceland is going back to basics and addressing what the constitutional order should be for the state in the twenty-first century?

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by gentledissident

So, they're to blame for income inequality, inefficiency, and lack of central planning? Would we all be contributing to society 20 hours a week and enjoying the remainder of our time with beautiful options if it were not for them? Are you saying we could be a carefree species if unbridled unregulated capitalism were in effect? Would we have a healthy ecosystem and air quality? Would free renewable energy and abundant leisure time finally be a reality? I'm curious how a system based on accruing wealth at the expense of the worker and the customer will bring unification and release. How does what appears to be a circus run by P T Barnum himself turn into utopia?

Ah, i see, so you are one of those who want to work 2 hours a week and have the rest of the day off... Sorry to tell you that not even in socialism, nor in communism would you be able to do "whatever you want and only work 2 hours a week

I see you can't answer my questions and instead distort my words. I will not engage in conversation with someone who displays such tactics. You appear to have a job to do here. I wanted to point that out to everyone.

reply to post by Thebel


Because the Iceland revolution is a joke, and to even mention it on here ... shows what sort of a moron you are.

Iceland is NOT recovering from it's crisis. And this is why:

During the Iceland crisis, the nation "denied" categorily to pay it's dept to foreign investors. However, Icelandic big capital owners, who had used the previous "bubble" to enrich themselves, completely and utterly "destroyed" all reference to their liability. This liability outweighed what Iceland owned to foreign holders.

Foreign holders, have NOT "forgiven" Iceland ... the holding is currently in the EU, which WILL eventually take up the issue, when Iceland is forced to join.

Iceland had deposits of oil on it's northern borders. The Island Jan Mayen is actually Icelandic, but currently held by Norway. Iceland has been totally incapable of any or all political as a share from it's own deposits. And every oil company in the world is ignoring Iceland, which means Norway will get it all. Icelanders are completely boneless morons.

Iceland has now, been allowed to export some of it's goods to it's neighbor countries. Some products, never before exported, are now available. This is a "big brother, helping out little tim" kind of effort. Not Iceland being able to do anything ... In fact, Iceland hasn't even been able to export it's own sheep meat to it's brethren the Nordic countries. The Nordic countries go to New Zealand for meat, rather than Iceland. This is just to show, how incompetent Icelandic negotiators are.

The Only thing Iceland has going for it ... is sympathy, and that isn't going to last.

In fact, the Icelandic public had been far better of ... .locally and internationally, to pay out their foreign depts to holders in Holland and England. And then NOT to allow politicians and big profile people, to "nullify" their liabilities in Iceland. The liabilities they nullified is not the few rich men types, like "Bonus" company, etc. It's high profile people, that during the "bubble" created "shares" out of their own home economy ... literally speaking. The amount of corruption there, is boundless ... and it isn't only tied to "giving government business and banks, to friends for nothing".

Iceland is a country, severly severed ... it's structural integrity, is built on danish stuff. It's laws have swedish background, and it's population go to Norway to work. They hate the british, and danes ... but work with both for cash. They are communist, to the extreme ... think the President Olafur Ragnar Grímsson, who is probably one of the reddest reds in Iceland, and according to Icelandic law should not have been able to become president. As the presidency requires that person to be non-Political. And honestly speaking, there is not a more political person on this planet, than Olafur Ragnar. This guy, tried to sell the Old US Naval station in Keflavik, to the Russians ... for cash. And currently, Iceland is trying it's best to smooth things with the Chinese for a bit of cash. Giving the Naval station to the Chinese, has even been mentioned ... that is the kind of people, we are talking about.

Iceland has absolutely no political road, vision or anything from that sort. Currently, they are trying with the EU, but will fail ... and in the end, unless they change ... they'll end up, in 20 years or so. Being unwanted, and undesired, and as a slave nation to the US. It's basically the destiny of Iceland to become a slave nation, of some other foreign party ...

And this revolution you talk about, were basically people ... who suffer speech impairment. Their speeches were totally incoherent. Lacked vision ... not once, during any of these speeches did anyone come up with an idea of what to do afterwards. The only idea was "Get the old government out", and the current foregin minister voicing his promises that "there will be oil for Iceland in Jan Mayen". If any government in Iceland has broken it's promises, it's the government they got instead of the old one ... that government is worse than Obama ... not one word has been kept ... not one.

And, to be honest ... they're pretty much like the OWS group. Completely visionless hippies ... their only idea, is to live like hippies ... they think the world will work that way.

Do you know WHY the Icelandic people demonstrated? It wasn't because they thought the corruption, during the "bubble" was bad. In fact, every single Icelander new what this bubble was. Playing the "stock" system, was in 1998, a national game in Iceland.

No, ladies and gentlemen, it wasn't integrity that got the Icelandic "revolution" going. It was the fact, that the money went out ... and the beer at the bar, dried up. No money, not beer, no drugs, no "brennivín" ... no fun.

Take it easy on the white stuff .... it's not good for yer brain.

Iceland seems to have been "the critical mass" that was needed for more European countries to find their cojones again.

Most European countries are in some kind of upheaval.

-the Dutch government imploded due to their overreach into the middle-class pockets (to prop-up a failed case: Greece)
-the French kicked-out Sarko and his deficit-hawks
-the Brits kicked The Tories in the nuts in local elections
-the Scots are getting more&more tired of Cameron and his goons, and are eying the Euro as their coin
-the Greeks en masse kicked the reigning politicians' bum
-Merkel got her behind handed to her in Sleswich-Holstein ( one of the more wealthy Northern German states)

Even the IMF, of ALL institutions is starting to realize that scaring peeps, will only exacerbate the lacking consumption.
People are starting to save more, even with ridiculously low returns, say 2.7% , keeping the by now rather impressive, amount of savings oút of the economy, because the banks, the ones that pay interest to their customers for keeping those savings, are loathe to spend it.

On, and on and on. And all of that started after Iceland gave the British, German and Dutch money mongers "the talk to the hand" and started to prosecute the réal villains.

Interesting, véry interesting to watch that unfold. What is pretty clear, is that the deficit-hawks are losing bíg.
America is slowly recuperating, because we aren't too scared to spend.
Europe is sinking deeper and deeper in the bog, because Merkel and Co refúse to let deflation enter the game. An odd sorts of "Isolationism"

The $ climbs nicely to the € ... Somewhere, we must be doing something right.

Originally posted by braindeadconservatives

Originally posted by Dbriefed
Nothing should be nationalized, everything should be privatized. Centralization is corruption, and de-facto authoritarianism.

You want a totalitarian government, nationalize everything.

You want every business or medical transaction to feel like a trip to the department of motor vehicles, nationalize everything.

Interesting,

We Privatized everything and we have an Oligarchy -

We effectively brought the world to it's knees by letting private forces commit fraud with
the global reserve currency.

You wanna be a third world nation, privatize everything, Banana republican

Socialism worked just great for the Eurozone. Take money from the hard working class (Germans) and give to the not working class (Greece), eventually no one will be working and there won't be anyone wanting to work and a marxist solution will arise to fix the failed socialist system. Once the marxist system collapses then private entrepreneurs (who are OBVIOUSLY horrible corrupt people) will create cash flow and an economy that people who choose to work can participate in. Those who are lazy can then organize protests and post angry anti-capitalist messages on Internet forums and demand a share of something they didn't earn.

Originally posted by Dbriefed
Once the marxist system collapses then private entrepreneurs (who are OBVIOUSLY horrible corrupt people) will create cash flow and an economy that people who choose to work can participate in. Those who are lazy can then organize protests and post angry anti-capitalist messages on Internet forums and demand a share of something they didn't earn.

Well then, let's not call me a socialist if that's how many define it. I'm for central planning, work distribution, efficiency, cooperation, and income equality. I know that capitalism cannot provide those due to its encouragement of competition. So then, if I'm not a socialist by your definition, what am I?

reply to post by Thebel
Very interesting topic.
It’s scary to think that Greece and then other weaken economies adopt this voluntary socialist reform after declaring bankruptcy to solve their economic quiz.

It's easy for a small country like Iceland to do that, NWO/MIC don't care about it's banks or economy in general. Not to detract from the Icelandic people's glorious victory. It certainly provides an example of what can be done in other countries, and shows that bankers aren't invincible and won't get away with their schemes for much longer.

media might not have much choice in there coverage,,
heads up,,
ICELANDincomming MAJOR quake activity,,

al;a ITALY,


NORWEGN SEA?,,two,,6+ ,,with aftershocks,,on there way.