Happiness in the afterlife

reply to post by TheGrandWarlock


Very great to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know, I couldn't sleep last night. I was too worried about you. So glad you decided to stay with us.
Just remember, anytime you want to talk, or have any problems, u2u me. I'll try to help in anyway possible. All I ask is that you not use a ouija ever again, please.

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Yes, you almost made the tiger sh*t himself. Or herself. We are all 11:11.
Why don't you get Guild Wars 2 when it comes out? If'n you're into that sort of thing.

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by TheGrandWarlock

 

Very great to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know, I couldn't sleep last night. I was too worried about you. So glad you decided to stay with us.
Just remember, anytime you want to talk, or have any problems, u2u me. I'll try to help in anyway possible. All I ask is that you not use a ouija ever again, please.

aw well that was sweet of you. Thanks and the same to you, im here if you need anything.
eh they dont work for me, i gave up on them a long time ago

Originally posted by MrUncreated
reply to post by TheGrandWarlock

 

Yes, you almost made the tiger sh*t himself. Or herself. We are all 11:11.
Why don't you get Guild Wars 2 when it comes out? If'n you're into that sort of thing.

lol i apologize, and yes im planning on getting it.

Many times, the only way God can get our attention is to remove anything that stands between us and Him.

What IF the thing that is upsetting you so much, is the LOSS of the thing that is between you and God?

Originally posted by TheGrandWarlock
i am bored of this life.
yes im young, yes theres still much for me to see, but im just not interested in worldly pleasures anymore (physical, emotional, etc). Yes theyre great and all but idk, i feel like theres something better out there.

i realize my life will never be as glamorous as i want it to be, and because of that, well i want a new one.
so before i go on i should say that yes im depressed but i personally believe that depression is one of the necessary steps to do this. I mean why would you want a new life if you're happy with the one you got?

but there are things keeping me from reaching my goal.

theres my ego, it just wont let me die. I dont want to be seen as that person who couldnt handle life and killed himself, i dont want to be a coward and abandon my family..what if they need me? I guess i grew up thinking that people who kill themselves are weak and selfish and i dont want to be seen as such.

but why is suicide taboo? we all die eventually, so why is it frowned upon?

then theres the process, how would i end my life, where would i do it?
i dont want to make a bloody mess nor do i want to surprise my family when they find a corpse in the house. I could tell them beforehand but i cant just say "so yeah i love you guys but im going to kill myself soon" because i would probably get locked up in rehab

then of course theres the fear of the unknown..no one really knows what happens when you die... i like to believe that our souls are eternal and that this is just one of my many lives..but who knows.


so the more i think about this, the more excuses i keep coming up with and i think, well do i really need to die?
Sure my life sucks, but it has its moments..what if the day after i kill myself everyone gains superpowers lol

if you werent happy with your life, would you kill yourself in hopes of finding happiness in the afterlife or would you just deal with the fact that you will be unhappy most of the time and hope that somehow along the way, you find some happiness here?

i just got out of college and even have a good job lined up. but honestly i have no idea why im going in this direction. i don't care about acquriing nice things, being a slave to pay off a house note, being tethered down by a family. really i'd be happy if i could just sit back and watch the grass grow. i plan on just building a small shed on some land my dad gave me and buy some solar panels and quit life. killing yourself though? if you're still alive on earth it's because you still have desire, those desires will bring you back to this realm. and probably in a similar situation

Originally posted by Murgatroid
Anyone wondering WHAT "mumbo jumbo" really looks like:

Originally posted by Popular
Eh, bible quotes = don't even waste your time on that junk.
PROOF OF ALIEN JESUS!

Ordinarily I would keep it to myself BUT when it comes down to a person's soul and destiny I would recommend AVOIDING any advice by the "Popular" people who may be dishing it out and instead go with the advice from "yourmaker" posted below:

post by yourmaker

 

Originally posted by yourmaker
warlock, you should do something AMAZING.

ALWAYS remember: "yourmaker" has YOUR best interest at heart, the "popular" people do NOT...

edit on 19-5-2012 by Murgatroid because: Added link

I'm not sure what exactly is wrong with your brain, it may be the fact you believe in God, or are religious in some way.

But the hardest thing I'm trying to understand is why you would quote me on something I haven't said, at least with the link you've provided, on that page there is not a post from me, let alone a post that I've written anything like that.

Secondly, by all means if you'd like to spew your religious mumbo jumbo, go ahead, you'll see what lies beyond this life when you die yourself. I can assure you it isn't what your Bible or beliefs would have you expect.

What I can also assure you, is that on the first page, I let the OP know in simple words that if he/she takes their own life, they'll be doomed to repeat it again. In future don't try and get smart and say the "popular" people, when I'm one person, and it's a username on a forum. Get a grip.

Originally posted by TheGrandWarlock
alright well i wish i could reply to you all but 2 pages is quite alot.
i did read all of your replies though and i've realized that they must mean something. i've decided to stick around. i'll try to enjoy this bumpy ride, dont complain if i get vomit all over you though

I wrote as though you were female without even grasping your name of Warlock. So sorry about that. What can I say, I 'm old, but my words still stand.

You do need to stick around. The next thirty years this life is going to get really interesting - fraught with danger, catastrophes, and world wars. You just might be called upon to save a lot of lives, and this'll be the wildest video game you've ever played.

Originally posted by TheGrandWarlock
if you werent happy with your life, would you kill yourself in hopes of finding happiness in the afterlife or would you just deal with the fact that you will be unhappy most of the time and hope that somehow along the way, you find some happiness here?

I'm not a kid anymore. I'm in my mid 50s. By now, I've lost every dream I've ever had, and I honestly have no vision of a future that pulls me forward. It's pretty odd, and I'm still trying to get used to having most of my life behind me, and nothing at all that I see as a goal ahead of me. I've never been successful, and that's certainly not due to a lack of ambition. Hell, I've gone after the brassiest brass rings there are (rock stardom, published novelist, the ultimate TOE question) and have literally nothing to show for any of it but the songs, CDs, books, and impossibly unassailable reality notions that have become evidence of a life that "missed it by that much" and nothing more than that.

Some people might look at my life and suggest that I dust myself and see what the hereafter offers, but to be honest, there's a grandeur in taking a roundhouse shot and being able to remain standing. I'm actually kind of amazed that I have taken the hits and come back for more again and again over the decades. There have been moments of harrowing failure and bitter disappointment, but there have also been moments when I've seen it all as the kind of elite training that has made me impossible to conquer by anyone or anything.

I watch some candystriper on (take your pick) American Idol or America's Got Talent (or any other Chase Your Dreams show) and when the kid starts crying that he has been wanting this his "whole life", I have to smile and shake my head. Maybe this is what a Navy Seal feels like when some idiot starts some sh*t in a bar with him. You smile and walk away, because you're not even in the same universe as that kid. That kid can't even understand the losses you've gathered together in your life in pursuit of who and what you are at this point.

If you just pursue the wildest dream imaginable (hell, why not. You don't expect to succeed anyway) and survive the hell of it all, you'll be invincible when you're finally ready to cross over to the eternal realm. The bars over there will be full of all kinds of success stories, but when you walk in, the entire atmosphere will change and every one of those heroes will quiet right down in deference to you. Your brutal corporeal existence will hang off you like a million medals, and you won't have to say a word.

You want to be special? Earn it. Do good when there's no goddamn reason to do good. Be strong when it makes no sense to be strong. Take the hits and smile. Confuse the hell out of life, and gather enormous amounts of power as you do. You'll BECOME special. That's what special is and how it comes to exist. You're already blessed with the lack of contentment. Do something wonderful with it. Take it all on for decades and build an amazing eternal self as a result.

That's what I've been working on, and I'm already bulletproof. Imagine if I get to live on for 20 more years. With all that physical deterioration to appreciate, I'll be superhuman when I'm done.

Originally posted by NorEaster

Originally posted by TheGrandWarlock
if you werent happy with your life, would you kill yourself in hopes of finding happiness in the afterlife or would you just deal with the fact that you will be unhappy most of the time and hope that somehow along the way, you find some happiness here?

I'm not a kid anymore. I'm in my mid 50s. By now, I've lost every dream I've ever had, and I honestly have no vision of a future that pulls me forward. It's pretty odd, and I'm still trying to get used to having most of my life behind me, and nothing at all that I see as a goal ahead of me. I've never been successful, and that's certainly not due to a lack of ambition. Hell, I've gone after the brassiest brass rings there are (rock stardom, published novelist, the ultimate TOE question) and have literally nothing to show for any of it but the songs, CDs, books, and impossibly unassailable reality notions that have become evidence of a life that "missed it by that much" and nothing more than that.

Some people might look at my life and suggest that I dust myself and see what the hereafter offers, but to be honest, there's a grandeur in taking a roundhouse shot and being able to remain standing. I'm actually kind of amazed that I have taken the hits and come back for more again and again over the decades. There have been moments of harrowing failure and bitter disappointment, but there have also been moments when I've seen it all as the kind of elite training that has made me impossible to conquer by anyone or anything.

I watch some candystriper on (take your pick) American Idol or America's Got Talent (or any other Chase Your Dreams show) and when the kid starts crying that he has been wanting this his "whole life", I have to smile and shake my head. Maybe this is what a Navy Seal feels like when some idiot starts some sh*t in a bar with him. You smile and walk away, because you're not even in the same universe as that kid. That kid can't even understand the losses you've gathered together in your life in pursuit of who and what you are at this point.

If you just pursue the wildest dream imaginable (hell, why not. You don't expect to succeed anyway) and survive the hell of it all, you'll be invincible when you're finally ready to cross over to the eternal realm. The bars over there will be full of all kinds of success stories, but when you walk in, the entire atmosphere will change and every one of those heroes will quiet right down in deference to you. Your brutal corporeal existence will hang off you like a million medals, and you won't have to say a word.

You want to be special? Earn it. Do good when there's no goddamn reason to do good. Be strong when it makes no sense to be strong. Take the hits and smile. Confuse the hell out of life, and gather enormous amounts of power as you do. You'll BECOME special. That's what special is and how it comes to exist. You're already blessed with the lack of contentment. Do something wonderful with it. Take it all on for decades and build an amazing eternal self as a result.

That's what I've been working on, and I'm already bulletproof. Imagine if I get to live on for 20 more years. With all that physical deterioration to appreciate, I'll be superhuman when I'm done.

ehh, i just want a superpower, thats all really.
i dont want experience nor some amazing attitude that makes me immune to everything.
i dont really want to be a bad ass like you, i just want to be happy.
i want a magical power.
RIGHT NOW.

i wanted to go into the afterlife to search for it and if possible, come back and show the world, but if theres another magical world out there, i'd go to that one.


thanks for the advice though, it seems like it would be really helpful if my head wasnt in the clouds lol
im sure one day i'll realize i cant obtain magical power in this world and i'll have to deal with reality...then your advice will come back to me..

who knows my deary, we shall see.

i lust for magic.

reply to post by TheGrandWarlock

i lust for magic.

So begins the journey.
I felt the same way as a teenager. A fast track to SOMETHING, I didn't care what in the realm of spirit and magic. Just something to show me that it was real.
I was pulled to the dark arts for a little while as that was a fast track to power and chicks thinking I was cool.
(It really did work)
My soul just felt pulled that way.
It led to some very profound and powerful personal experiences that changed the course of my life forever. Best of luck to you, I won't tell you all of the pitfalls, trials, and errors, you will have to find them for yourself, because that is how you will learn.
In the end, you will be a light in the darkness,
but first you need to see it for yourself.

reply to post by Darkblade71


or..or.. you can teach me.
tell me your secrets.

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There are no secrets. It is very simple.
You go with what your own soul pulls you to. In doing so, you begin the very long track of learning why and what is the reason for your being here. I would love to say that there is one way, but there isn't, there is your way, which is different from my way, or anyone else's, if you stay true to what your soul tells you, and where your spirit leads you, you will become what it is you truly seek. You will also find your perspective will change as you experience more.

I started out with dark arts, the satanic bible, necronomicon, and I can't remember the other books,(this was in the mid 80's) although there were channeling books such as Arther Ford speaks from beyond, and after experiencing them, and knowing that there IS something to it, it was enough to change the course of what I truly wanted. I know people will go off on the necronomicon because it is a work of fiction, but what I have learned over the years is that truly there is no need for spells, all spells and rituals are, are things to bring the mind into a form of trance where it can manipulate energy and communicate with spirit and the spirit world in some fashion.

I am not saying this is what you should do, I am only saying this is what I did, and it was just the very beginning of a path that has lead me all over, and now I find meaning in everything I do.
I am nobody.
But I am a spirit being, just like you are.
Which makes me somebody.

Your posts within ATS and your nickname often times makes me hear this song:


You have a job to do here,
but first you have to find out for yourself what you can do.
No one knows the answer but you,
Let lose your wizard,
But remember, harm no one.

Originally posted by TheGrandWarlock
reply to post by Darkblade71

 

or..or.. you can teach me.
tell me your secrets.

There is only one secret for this life. Knowledge. Knowledge is power. Knowledge is another thing that doesn't come to you; you have to 'Want' to go get it, and that takes time and patience.

You speak of leaving this life, hoping there will be another life for you. Tell me, if you don't work for the rewards in this life, what makes you think you'll work for the rewards in the next life? Or the next?

You wrote: "You can teach me."

If you want to be taught, then you are willing to learn, but what good is it if you choose the wrong topics?

The right topics for this realm:

Learn how to master money.
Learn how to defend yourself.
Master ONE subject (Buying and selling real estate, or computer programming, or auto mechanics). Just choose one so that you will always have a skill to support you.

reply to post by Darkblade71


nice song

i've already done those things, which is why im so bored, none of those worked for me, i've been into the occult ever since i can remember and yet the only magic i could really work was the law of attraction, using sigils, and reading people. To me those are petty things that everyone can learn, i want something big, i hate waiting for results.

i liked what jiggerj said though,

The right topics for this realm: Learn how to master money. Learn how to defend yourself. Master ONE subject (Buying and selling real estate, or computer programming, or auto mechanics). Just choose one so that you will always have a skill to support you.

magic isnt very portent here, perhaps every world has its own rules.

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Then perhaps you need to focus on something other than magic.

Stalemates happen.


If you have already done these things,
you would not be a teenager, or you are one with a very short attention span.
(Not that it is a bad thing, just trying to figure out where you are coming from)
Sounds like being caught in a funk, where you begin to feel nothing was worth the time or effort.

Originally posted by Darkblade71
reply to post by TheGrandWarlock

 

Then perhaps you need to focus on something other than magic.

Stalemates happen.


If you have already done these things,
you would not be a teenager, or you are one with a very short attention span.
(Not that it is a bad thing, just trying to figure out where you are coming from)
Sounds like being caught in a funk, where you begin to feel nothing was worth the time or effort.

perhaps i do, but everything is just so ugh to me. Im very impatient.

im not im 18 im a man now and yes i dont like to focus on 1 thing for too long, gets very boring.
its not that i dont feel nothing i just rush through things. i dont focus on the journey, i just jump to the destination and im like ok well that was uneventful.

reply to post by TheGrandWarlock


Ok gotcha. It is the same with my boys. My oldest is 19 now, and he is the same way. It was really bad watching him play video games because he would zip right through them without doing all the side quests to open up more of the games stories. I was the methodical one who would find every item and object and secret, where he would immediately go for the cheat just to get it done.

And now, he sits where you are in life.
He attempted suicide last year which is what brought me back to Minnesota.
Luckily for him, it was a medication problem, as they found out he was bipolar and had no mood stabilizer while he was taking antidepressants.

You have the knowledge, but skipped the experience.
So now it is a job for your subconscious to filter all of that information and feed it back to you slowly over time.
Just go about your normal life, get ready for work or higher education, and allow all you learned to slowly come out. You also might be taking the role of the skeptic, who tried, but couldn't produce results, so you feel it is nothing.

Often times it is how we learn, you read it, understand it, but don't develop the proper skills because it takes time and effort. But as I said, the subconscious retains all of this information and feeds it back to you later on through life. Your mind and spirit is like a sponge, and will hold everything you learn and do. Even if you do not see results, at some point and time you will if you feel pulled that way. Really, the bottom line is to go with your spirit and stay true to yourself, and you will never go wrong.

I really hope you get out of this funk soon. There is a whole world just waiting for you to experience, and you are at the beginning of a very exciting journey, even if it does not seem that way now.
At least if nothing else, you got freaks like me that will throw weird things at you...

Originally posted by TheGrandWarlock

Im very impatient.

Ha! About thirty years back I worked for a company that closed its doors. So in order to get a check every week I went to the unemployment office. All I had to do was sign up and that would've been at least 13 weeks of easy living. There were sixty people in line. I was NOT going to wait for 60 people! I went and found another job. How's that for impatience?

I think most young people go through a period of depression. But hang in there! It will get better if you make the right choices.

We all choose the path we walk in this life before we are ever born so we can learn certain lessons that our soul needs for spiritual growth. If you end it before you learn those lessons, you will have to come back again and live another life to learn them. Do you really want to have to come back again for a redo? You already have x amount of years "under your learning belt" for this lifetime.... don't throw it away. Life is a gift for learning. Don't treat it as something meaningless!

When you get depressed ask your spirit guide, and guardian angel to send you peace, and help give you the strength and courage to keep walking the path you chose for yourself... that's what they are there for.

May blessings be with you as you grow in spirit.

When people are young, they think they know everything. I thought I did.

Doesn't matter what anyone says, you always think you know better. Just consider this. When you're 15, your view of the world is "this big" - let's give it a number -- 1.

When you're 20, you're view is now "5" and you look back at yourself at 15 and think, "Good god, what was I thinking??"

When you're 30, you're view is bigger, it's now "15" and you look back at yourself at 20 and think, "Good god, what was I thinking??"

I'm 37 right now. Can you imagine what I think of myself back at 15?? What an idiot i was!! WHat was I thinking - like I had any clue about the world.

No doubt when I'm 50 my view will be X times bigger now. My point is, honestly, DO NOT assume what you think now is what the world really is - it isn't. Your perception expands as you get older. So don't give up.

And lastly - there's millions of people out there in this world who are dying and would love to have you life. You're so eager to give it up. Such a shame. I hope you don't.