Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Haw

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by hp1229

 

If BHO was allowed to become a president despite all the evidence that is surfacing now, I think someone let it happen on purpose or nobody bothered to do the homework on the pre-requisite to become a president

OR...you seem to have forgotten one very important option....he is actually a natural born citizen.

Funny how you just seemed to leave that one out.

The statement reads with a 'IF'. Which is not conclusive.
Personally I dont trust anything the media or the politicians claim about themselves or others for the most part

One read and reads and re-reads these threads and are wondering:

Is there a reason why it is always

"Barack Obamas mum and dad..."
"Barack Obamas parents..."
"Obamas parents..."
"Obama senior..."

Why is it never

"Barack Obama - the father of Barack Obama, president..."
"Barack Obama sr...."
"Barack Obamas father, Barack Obama, ..."

Could there be a reason for this? Could it be that it would be too obvious how a case of mistaken identity or slip of tongues happen?

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by braindeadconservatives

 

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And I find avatars portraying Gunnutters and their love of gunnuttiness threatening and offensive.
I also find more or less direct statements towards exercising a right to shoot trespassers threatening.
Advocating Ron for president is a direct threat against world peace.

But I don't see many posts removed and accounts terminated.

The world is watching!!!!!
The world is laughing at us.... A man from Kenya has invaded our White House!!!!
Russia maybe planning our future president....why not, Kenya did it!!! maybe she will be one of those hot Russian spies!

reply to post by HolgerTheDane2

Could there be a reason for this? Could it be that it would be too obvious how a case of mistaken identity or slip of tongues happen?

If you are referring to the writer mistaking identities between our President and his father, I find that hard to believe. The copy speaks of both of them and their attributes separately.

reply to post by HolgerTheDane2


Yeah, she managed to guess correctly on everything else except this ONE detail. This mistake would have been like her saying that Joe Montana also played professional baseball for the Yankees prior to his NFL career. But, she didn't. Everyone else had the correct BIO in that packet. I find it hard to believe that she simply hosed up on Obama's. Either he told her he was born there, or maybe she got the info from his school admission records. So, either he's a fraud, or ineligible. It's nice of her to try and take the proverbial bullet for this though. She's a real trooper. She'll probably have a Czar position opened up in his 2nd term. Most likely "Research Czar".

Originally posted by imitator
The world is watching!!!!!
The world is laughing at us.... A man from Kenya has invaded our White House!!!!

Half right...they are definetly watching and laughing, birtherism has comedic value if nothing else.

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by blueorder
why did Obama permit his then literary agent to state these things about being born in Kenya?

Please provide proof Obama even knew about it.

of course you cannot provide such proof...

Oh come on..even a fanatic would admit that is very, very weak..an honest fanatic at least.

Look, for me this has nothing to do with Obama's race.

Never has, never will.

OK that's not strictly accurate and i'll explain what i mean. When Obama was elected POTUS, i was doing high fives, not because i thought his policies would change America and the world at large, but because i thought in my naive optimism, that now America have elected a Black man (however privileged and socially placed) to the highest public office in the Nation...things would begin change for the people of the world on a more humanist level.

A fairer, more honest and equitable way of all of us relating to each other not just in terms of black and white, red or yellow, but nation to nation, religion to religion, male to female, old to young, rich to poor, intelligent to ignorant..on every human level where a percieved difference is used as a reason or more often an excuse to subject people to cruelty and violence. To hold people back and deny progession and advancements offered to others thought to be more similar.

I was niave of course, but sometimes hoping for something is enough.

Where i believe most people stand and react to this entire issue, from a feeling of suspected betrayal.

A feeling of having been swindled. Of someone undeserving, someone bogus, someone who may have stolen the highest public office in the United States of America, who knew all along he was in the wrong, yet still had so little respect for the people of America and the Office he has claimed, he will continue with the charade.

It's not about his race...his race is correct. His nationality isn't correct, and that is what is being challenged.

Don't confuse race with nationality and eligibility based on natural birth nationality, they are two completely different things.

Deep down i hope Obama is legit, i really do for the reasons i've given. But based on the entire evidence (or perhaps more crucially, the lack of positive evidence) shown thus far, i seriously doubt he is on the level about his natural nationality, and to lie about that, even if he'd been brought up in America shows utter contempt for America's dearest held laws and procedures, including a complete disregard for the United States Constitution itself.

And that would be the crime that would require his removal and lawful prosecution in my eyes.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
For those who want to bash the birthers, maybe you should consider this:

Fed Court: Obama Eligibility Question “Important and Not Trivial”
libertylegalfoundation.org...

“The Court finds that the federal question presented, the meaning of the phrase ‘natural born citizen’ as a qualification for the Presidency set out in Article II of the Constitution, is important and not trivial.”

“The issue of whether President Obama is constitutionally qualified to run for the Presidency is certainly substantial.”

“It is clear that the stated federal issue of President Obama’s qualifications for the office are ‘actually disputed and substantial.’”

If a Federal Court can express these opinions perhaps all that yell: "Get Over It." should recognize the merits of these efforts for now and for the future of this country.

Wow...that is hilarious...the same court that issued a 12 page response...and you chose to excerpt 3 sentences that say...People have challenged his citizenship...and citizenship matters...while excluding the other 12 pages?

Perhaps you could have linked to the other 12 pages where the Judge painfully explains that YES...President Obama was born here and the evidence being presented is BS?

edit on 21-5-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)

Sorry, there was no link the the 12 page decision. With your ability to ad-lib an interpretation of the Federal Court decision you should try getting a job with Obama's literary management agency, you would fit right in.

Originally posted by MysterX

When Obama was elected POTUS, i was doing high fives, not because i thought his policies would change America and the world at large, but because i thought in my naive optimism, that now America have elected a Black man (however privileged and socially placed) to the highest public office in the Nation...things would begin change for the people of the world on a more humanist level.

A fairer, more honest and equitable way of all of us relating to each other not just in terms of black and white, red or yellow, but nation to nation, religion to religion, male to female, old to young, rich to poor, intelligent to ignorant..on every human level where a percieved difference is used as a reason or more often an excuse to subject people to cruelty and violence. To hold people back and deny progession and advancements offered to others thought to be more similar.

I was niave of course, but sometimes hoping for something is enough.

Where i believe most people stand and react to this entire issue, from a feeling of suspected betrayal.

WOW...Okay...so you thought Obama was the second comming of Christ? And you are mad that he isn't? Feel betrayed? And thus go all birther and decide there is huge conspiracey?

I was niave of course

And you remain so...President Obama was never going to save the world...and neither is he a manchurian candidate bred in a secret lab in Kenya.

He is a man who was born in Hawaii and the first African-American President of the Untied States.

reply to post by Autumnal


I will write in Ron Paul. I will not vote for Obromney or Rombama.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by Autumnal

 

I will write in Ron Paul. I will not vote for Obromney or Rombama.

Then you will have cast a vote for two candidates

One for Ron Paul who has no chance of winning.
One vote for Obama because you did not place a vote for the candidate who can beat him.

Congratulations. Way to work the system. Are you from Chicago?

reply to post by Indigo5

He is a man who was born in Hawaii and the first African-American President of the Untied States.

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it” - Adolf Hitler/ex]

Great way to convince the public. America bought the lie so well they didn't even check it out.
This vetting process is a sham.

Your typo: Untied States, yeah, we sure got untied didn't we?

edit on 5/21/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Nite_wing
Then you will have cast a vote for two candidates

One for Ron Paul who has no chance of winning.
One vote for Obama because you did not place a vote for the candidate who can beat him.

Absolutely! Obama has at least been mostly fenced in, and cannot make many substantial moves. Romney would have more or less a free hand, at least for a while. THAT is much more frightening!

Originally posted by LightsideAssassin

Originally posted by Innerlight
Pathologizing dissent is an Orwellian tactic and mark of totalitarianism. Calling people "birthers" or "truthers" or "racists" or "homophobic", etc and other ad hominum attacks is a rhetorical logical fallacy designed to minimize the actual facts of the argument.

Bottom line in this topic thread is that author bios are always based on information provided BY THE AUTHOR (who completes a questionnaire), then written into a bio page by the marketing department, and then verified and APPROVED BY THE AUTHOR prior to going to print. Hence, Obama himself supplied the information regarding his place of birth and upbringing and approved it before it was printed and sent out. End of story.

So the real question is, was he lying then or is he lying now? Or both?

Some will say try to say it doesn't matter and point to "Well, George Washington wasn't born in America" and other distractions. But does it matter in terms of eligibility and credibility and character that information has been fabricated and that anyone who questions it is pathologized with ad hominum attacks?

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell

Quoted for truth. The problem I'm having here is the selective application of the truth. Why the focus on Obama's issues when bush 41 and 43 got away with crimes much worse..and Clinton..well look into the stories about mena. Or vince foster. Or 100 other things. I'm actually convinced now that Obama was not born here..but why this focus on him and not the others? Yes..I'm saying that his skin color is an underlying reason, even though what's being said on his birthplace is probably correct. I'm saying that there's a double standard at work. That doesn't excuse anything Obama did, but where was all this teeth gnashing when bush 43 cowboy'ed us to Iraq? Where was all this angst when bush 41 did almost the same thing? Do you all have any idea how many innocent people we killed just on those two actions alone? Once you add in the effect of sanctions and depleted uranium poisoning from our munitions? In the millions. But all I remember hearing from the right, anyway, was how anyone who didn't support that bull# was with the terrorists. Obama lies about his birthplace, and everyone wants to hang him. Bush x2 and Clinton kill millions and they get speaking engagements on the rubber chicken circuit, and a comfy life.

Something is seriously out of whack here.

edit on 20-5-2012 by LightsideAssassin because: (no reason given)

edit on 20-5-2012 by LightsideAssassin because: (no reason given)

Of course there were lies and cover-ups by previous presidents as well. Many of them were uncovered in this recent documentary by Anthony J Hilder, ILLUMINAZI: BILDERBERG WEST BOHEMIAN GROVE
See: www.youtube.com...

reply to post by imitator


That almost happened. Apparently she got close to one of Obama's Cabinet folks.

Just a step away...

As if they (Russia/China) need to get to Obama via a spy....

Originally posted by Montana

Absolutely! Obama has at least been mostly fenced in, and cannot make many substantial moves. Romney would have more or less a free hand, at least for a while. THAT is much more frightening!

"Tell Vladimir I will have more flexibility after I am re-elected."

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Thank you innerlight, that was a beautiful post, and all that needs to be said on the subject,

Yes, character.

edit on 123131p://bSunday2012 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)

It does matter.

someone wanted to know how obamas' birth place was listed in who's who so I took a look while I was at the library today. The first one he is listed in is 2005 they all say he was born in Hawaii.

Originally posted by research100
someone wanted to know how obamas' birth place was listed in who's who so I took a look while I was at the library today. The first one he is listed in is 2005 they all say he was born in Hawaii.

Geeze.

And both newspapers in Hawaii at the time of his birth - - also list him. Shocking.