U.S. Military discusses openly its counterattack plans against Alien Invasion...

Seriously? Yes, absolutely serious, if Paul Springer, Professor of the U.S. Air Command and Staff College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama admit, that there are Pentagon Plans against an Alien "Visitation". On an Australian talk show titled "U.S. Military Making Plans for an Alien Invasion." Springer, a former professor at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point who has a doctorate in military history from Texas A&M University, said his superiors had authorized him to discuss Pentagon plans to counter an alien invasion...
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During the interview, Springer was asked, "What do you think would be the alien plan? What would they do first?" He replied: "That really depends on why they are here in the first place. If they are here for extraction of a specific resource, for example, they might just want to eliminate any resistance that might block them from their objective. If, on the other hand, their goal was actual occupation and conquest, then they would probably have to prioritize anything they perceived as a threat to their own dominance. So they would probably start by wiping out as many communications networks as possible and eliminating as many weapons that might represent some form of threat whether to them or to the resources they are trying to extract. So they might very well want to counter every nuclear weapon, not because it represented a threat to them but because it might destroy whatever they're here to collect."

[...] In contrast to the alien-enemy scenario put forth by Springer, numerous UFO researchers and other analysts have taken a more positive approach to relations with the "Visiting Others." One example is a proposed international-cosmic treaty known as The Outer Space Security and Development Treaty of 2011 crafted by Rosin, Mitchell and retired U.S. naval intelligence officer Scott Jones.

A very, very serious matter for our future, that deserve, finally, an open, serious and wide discussion on Main Strem Media and Scientific Community.

roswell 'happened' like how many years and no public discussion..

until 2012???

figures





o i c now, tptb are planning ahead as they are running out of viable countries to attack with all the destruction, already on Earth

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So they might very well want to counter every nuclear weapon, not because it represented a threat to them but because it might destroy whatever they're here to collect."

Someone did say I'm defeatist on UFO agenda and yet even this guy sound that much defeated. Well, who am I to argue, if UFO did attack earth, the ash might be me, you just keep fighting OK ?.

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This does raise a few interesting points but I need to sidetrack to illustrate what I mean.

I read a piece years ago about the influence of The Bible on the thoughts of a President. In a nutshell, the argument was that a President who believed in The Bible was therefore a believer in an Apocalypse type scenario, End of Days, all that and therefore more likely to push The Button if they felt it was justified. I believe Ronald Reagan was used as the example but that is really neither here nor there. Just the guy they looked at, and he did have that great Star Wars Defence Initiative (SDI?) thing back in the day, among other things.

Now, getting back to Aliens. How much of the population would equate alien visitation in whatever form with "Gods"? Most religions from antiquity right up to the present day would I think present that as the logical reason or at least a definite possibility, rather than a more scientific view of them just being "beings from another place", albeit with quite probably a more advanced knowledge of how to manipulate matter, energy, time, space, whatever.... To many, they would appear to be gods.

To be fair, I think Hollywood movies have provided as many scenarios of what might happen as any military think tank. I wonder if this is just some PR attempt for more budget. The signals being sent out by the military industrial complex are often contesting each other.

For example, they say they have no knowledge of any visitations or proof of any "higher tech" yet on the other hand, they are planning for it? Why?

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Interesting point of view.
Stars for you.

Only one thing to add: remember APOCALYPSE mean REVELATION.

What if these 'aliens' are actually inter-dimensional beings like Jinns and angels and the USA is the leader of the antichrist armies and leading the American people astray by making them believe in 'aliens' as evil. Could this be the next excuse for war?

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Sorry, Biblical end-type scenarios are not my strong point and I often get the names confused.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
What if these 'aliens' are actually inter-dimensional beings like Jinns and angels and the USA is the leader of the antichrist armies and leading the American people astray by making them believe in 'aliens' as evil. Could this be the next excuse for war?

I guess that would depend if we possess inter-dimensional travel technology. It's hard to wound or kill something that isn't "there" I think.

*rolls dice for damage points on an Inter-Dimensional Falcon-Punch wearing the Holy Glove of Antioch*

Damn...miss!

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
What if these 'aliens' are actually inter-dimensional beings like Jinns and angels and the USA is the leader of the antichrist armies and leading the American people astray by making them believe in 'aliens' as evil. Could this be the next excuse for war?

Another interesting point of view.
Thx.
Stars.

My answer is yes, but I personally don't think that this could be planned.

Maybe, when "they" decide to show themselves, we will facing not only one ET race, but several and different.

In my personal opinion, the only thing that must be done is to inform, slowly, that, Yes: Alien civilizations visit this planet from many thousands years and they are peaceful.

Maybe NASA, in August, could bring the first good news...

The interesting thing is that the professor discusses it as if its a probability,Maybe he knows something more or is just openminded,something uncommon between professors.

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It's an extremely interesting topic. I mean, it could go both ways for us, a few examples:

1 - They have a plan for everything, it could have been some plan drawn up in spare time. I mean, it doesn't hurt to have a plan just in case right?

2 - They could be fuelling the fire, perhaps they want us to believe, especially now, that aliens could invade. Think Project Bluebeam

3 - Perhaps they know? Perhaps they know an alien presence is becoming more apparent in and around our planet, and they're getting bloody worried about it. Although if that were the case I don't think the pentagon would allow for such a discussion.

4 - Possibly, disclosure of any information known by world governments is slowly leaking through, as the idea seems less and less ridiculous to more and more people, I'm sure soon, if they knew anything, they would probably tell us, if they didn't have their own agenda, obviously.



All in all, I probably think it's the first one, I don't think, in itself a Professor hired by the USAF would be briefed on such a topic. If for example the topic was disclosed, I don't think many people would believe it, again, think Project Bluebeam etc.

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by Arken

 

This does raise a few interesting points but I need to sidetrack to illustrate what I mean.

I read a piece years ago about the influence of The Bible on the thoughts of a President. In a nutshell, the argument was that a President who believed in The Bible was therefore a believer in an Apocalypse type scenario, End of Days, all that and therefore more likely to push The Button if they felt it was justified. I believe Ronald Reagan was used as the example but that is really neither here nor there. Just the guy they looked at, and he did have that great Star Wars Defence Initiative (SDI?) thing back in the day, among other things.

Now, getting back to Aliens. How much of the population would equate alien visitation in whatever form with "Gods"? Most religions from antiquity right up to the present day would I think present that as the logical reason or at least a definite possibility, rather than a more scientific view of them just being "beings from another place", albeit with quite probably a more advanced knowledge of how to manipulate matter, energy, time, space, whatever.... To many, they would appear to be gods.

To be fair, I think Hollywood movies have provided as many scenarios of what might happen as any military think tank.

I wonder if this is just some PR attempt for more budget. The signals being sent out by the military industrial complex are often contesting each other.

For example, they say they have no knowledge of any visitations or proof of any "higher tech" yet on the other hand, they are planning for it? Why?

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edit on 17/5/12 by LightSpeedDriver because: Typo

Ya the scary thing is Romney believes in the book of mormon probably more than the bible. When you study the ROOTS of the BOM it is FRAUDULENT, In ALL the angles, dna, linguistically, historically. Even B.H Robert one of the greatest scholars to come out of the LDS church thought it was a total mess. (though the fantasy stories can suck you in big-time if your not smart enough to study the roots. This is very serous stuff. So a possible president could be reading this in the white house. And the founder miss-represented himself monumentally.

Great thread Arken.

While I'm not at all surprised that think-tanks develop contingency plans for possible extraterrestrial or dimensional invasion, I wonder at the timing of this announcement.

Why now? Amidst a superstitious year, a new election, and economic trouble - our national defense is playing role-playing games in office? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Unless the phenomenon of UFO sightings has legitimately increased; or they know something we don't.

Perhaps, we should expect contact as our own science and technology develops and breaks new ground. It isn't outside the realm of possibility that we've brought upon us trouble. After all, we did send out into space a message inviting unknown, unsaid beings to "come in peace". Or maybe we opened some kind of doorway where dimensional travel is possible. The labs, military and such would know first. Long before any of us in the public would - almost certainly. Perhaps, this "plan" is a way to break it to us gently, so to say. Perhaps they are not here yet, but know the bulk of the race is on it's way.

Who knows. Could be nothing more than role-playing games at the pentagon. Sort of sad, that that is the most likely of reasons for said "plan". (shrugs)

So this proves that aliens aren't here at all, right?

I mean, why would the military be discussing what to do during an invasion if we had already been invaded/visited?

Good find!

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
What if these 'aliens' are actually inter-dimensional beings like Jinns and angels and the USA is the leader of the antichrist armies and leading the American people astray by making them believe in 'aliens' as evil. Could this be the next excuse for war?

This is totally the situation. The "islamicists" (many of whom were created by the intelligence forces, such as OBL) aren't doing it for them anymore.

The government worries about aliens, they are a big threat to the government. Why? Well, what do you suppose would happen if people found out that a) aliens existed, b) many were here to help mankind, c) there technology was far in advance of ours, d) many of them are interdimensional beings, sometimes present in our density and sometimes present in higher densities such that our current weapons posed zero threats to them? People would laugh at the government and want to follow the advice of the aliens, and governments would lose all their power.

That is why governments fear aliens. It has nothing to do with protecting people and everything to do with protecting themselves.

Why do you think there have been so many scary alien movies recently?

The ones like ET and Close Encounters were made at a time when they were closer to and considering disclosure. Judging by movies like "Battle LA" and "Battleship" we are moving away from disclosure.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
So this proves that aliens aren't here at all, right?

I mean, why would the military be discussing what to do during an invasion if we had already been invaded/visited?

Good find!

No.
"Visited" is different from (world-wide full displayed) "invasion".

This proves that Aliens exist and in some Military/Scientific circles they are seen as hostile...

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It proves nothing. If anything, it proves that the military knows nothing about any aliens.

Either the military knows something and wants to cover it up or it knows nothing and wants to be prepared.

Pick ONE

You can't have your cake and eat it too sunshine.

This reminds me of the CDC's Zombie Preparedness Guide

Using your logic Zombies are everywhere and the CDC knows it and is prepared...

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It proves nothing. If anything, it proves that the military knows nothing about any aliens.

Not so sure.... Not so sure...



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Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver

I read a piece years ago about the influence of The Bible on the thoughts of a President. In a nutshell, the argument was that a President who believed in The Bible was therefore a believer in an Apocalypse type scenario, End of Days, all that and therefore more likely to push The Button if they felt it was justified. I believe Ronald Reagan was used as the example but that is really neither here nor there. Just the guy they looked at, and he did have that great Star Wars Defence Initiative (SDI?) thing back in the day, among other things.


To be fair, I think Hollywood movies have provided as many scenarios of what might happen as any military think tank.

I wonder if this is just some PR attempt for more budget. The signals being sent out by the military industrial complex are often contesting each other.

We will never find out for sure, but I always find the president and nuclear button thing a little too Hollywood. American president is just too much of a figurehead for the planners and organizers to give him that kind of power. Maybe, symbolically. In reality, most likely there is a whole chain of command, and president would simply not be in their plans, if a nuclear attack were to occur, other than as a public spokesperson. The whole suitcase scenario has always felt like fun propaganda, a part of the overall theme of showing US presidents as way more powerful than they actually are. That is why many Americans feel a personal, symbolic relationship with their president.

As for the professor's ideas, they are pretty generic. You would think that after so many degrees, he would bring forth few new ideas. You would hope that military would plan for a way more deceptive, way more strategic, and way more decisive invasion scenarios than what this professor and Hollywood movies show.

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Professors will gladly talk about unconventional topics, even the unpopular ones, as long as their is an official link to an authoritative institution. If government or military have a request, any professor would jump to provide his postulations, for the sake of improving his network, good publicity and future recognition or research projects. As long as the request is official, many professors would give their serious opinion on topics that they normally laugh at. Academics love the attention by official institutions, other academics, and even popular media figures.
If the request is by military or even by a popular TV show, thousands of professors would volunteer for free to provide their opinions and insight.

They need to ask these questions to physics experts and well rounded scientists (Dr. Kaku for ex.), not military history professors, who make their careers by bolstering the official positions and populist concepts.