Man builds Tesla Gun that can shoot 20,000 Volts of Electricity: (Weird Science)

Originally posted by earthdude
reply to post by nobodysavedme

 

Kinda brilliant, but the vortex moves too slow. I thought the nerf gun was going to shoot a grounding object wired back to the gun so the bolt will go that way. The plasma can be directed in a hollow laser, but vortexes won't hold lightning. the idea is to cut a path in the air. Maybe fire the vortex and a few seconds later fire the plasma blast.

the vortex simply transports some of the conducting plasma towards the target and the rest will follow path of least resistance towards the target.

also a using a ring and having a high voltage discharged thru it may also create a circular vortex like ring which can be blasted by electromagnetic coils in direction of target...

when you say a vortex gun what exactly do you mean? When I look up vortex guns they are still in their infancy and shoot at anywhere from 60 mph to mach 1. It's all well and good to say just integrate plasma into a vortex gun but actually doing it would take serious money and time is my guess.

When compared to bullets and bombs there just isn't a sufficient payoff for what would be a crushingly expensive program.

Being electrocuted at 20,000V isn't nice at all

Originally posted by roguetechie
when you say a vortex gun what exactly do you mean? When I look up vortex guns they are still in their infancy and shoot at anywhere from 60 mph to mach 1. It's all well and good to say just integrate plasma into a vortex gun but actually doing it would take serious money and time is my guess.

When compared to bullets and bombs there just isn't a sufficient payoff for what would be a crushingly expensive program.

this is purely from a academic exercise.i never said it would replace bullets.

it was in response to the op.


vortex guns are very simple...go to youtube for all sorts of demonstrations.

you can make it from a dustbin or pail.it is just a tube with a hole at the end.

if you want to know about a crushingly expensive look at the F-35 fighter turkey ...$80 billion wasted on it already and the final plane will cost $300 million...and it lacks

"RANGE AND PAYLOAD AND CAN'T LAND ON A CARRIER".

Originally posted by Hessdalen
the music is a extra bonus

does anyone know the name?

edit on 16-5-2012 by Hessdalen because: mindcontrol

Why yes, I do. It's called "'Minnehaha (Hawaiian Stomp)"......or atleast that's what it says in the youtube link.



Peace

Looks like early plasma emitter tech...... cool to watch OP Combine tesla tech with rail gun tech and what is the end result

People, what does it all have to do with a "gun"? The guy in the video is a good-natured tinkerer, props to him, but all he did was to attach a high-voltage generator to a toy gun receiver, for coolness/comic effect. It doesn't shoot or propel anything. So stop drooling, this is just silly. No, it's not some kind of "glimpse of the future".

Many years ago I've built a similar Tesla coil. I used glass bottles filled with motor oil as capacitors.
Quite a messy stuff... but overall, if you're a curious science nerd kinda of guy, it's a lot of fun to build and experiment with.

Cool!

originally posted by: PhoenixOD
This is just a normal tesla coil mounted sideways in a gun? So it wont 'shoot' electric bolts like bullets?

Its not really a gun is it, its more like a fancy cattle prod.

That's right. There isn't going to be any "shoot", because it's going to basically be "randomly arc to".

originally posted by: Fromabove
If you look under the USS Starship Enterprise in the series "The next Generation" you will see a dish. I think that's quite possibly the future of such a weapon in space seeing as two conductive elements in space will attract.

Well, they don't really. Attract that is. Two conductive objects in space don't care about each other.

The dish is, in canon, the navigational deflector. Supposedly it creates a sort of anti-tractor beam that can operate in subspace as well as real space, and its main function is to sweep the Enterprise's path clean of particles while they're in flight, either warp or impulse.

After TOS, it became a sort of generic deus ex machina generator, capable of nearly anything that required dramatic explosions or large beams of some sort of power.

originally posted by: nobodysavedme
JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA...
could you do it?

Maybe...but you'd have to produce a wad of plasma and then pop it off, probably doable, BUT.

1) why? The total energy in each ball would be low, even if it all got there.
2) what's the recombination time of an air plasma at STP? I'd bet it's very small fractions of a second.

originally posted by: nobodysavedme
the vortex simply transports some of the conducting plasma towards the target and the rest will follow path of least resistance towards the target.

You'd have to have a chain of them a few inches apart, and you'd have to keep them from just recombining and going away. However, if THAT'S what you were wanting to do with the plasma, there are at least two far more straightforward ways of doing it.

1) what I came up with as a kid - a double barreled water gun with salt water in, the two barrels isolated from each other, with metal nozzles, and a big charged up capacitor between the two nozzles. IF you can keep the streams parallel then you can shock the # out of someone. If you try to pump the voltage up, you either get arcs or the charge on the stream causes it to "fuzz out" before it reaches the target.

2) far UV. Either a pair of "UV flashlights" (note that this was investigated over and over during WW2 as a "death ray" to be used against incoming aircraft), or a pair of UV lasers side by side. This creates an ionized path from an energy source to a target, and is the basis for the Ionatron, which sucks ass in practice.

also a using a ring and having a high voltage discharged thru it may also create a circular vortex like ring which can be blasted by electromagnetic coils in direction of target...

This is more or less the basis for the Russians "sonic bullet". It, too, sort of works, but is big, bulky, expensive, and doesn't buy you anything compared to, say, an M4.

originally posted by: nobodysavedme

Originally posted by anon72
reply to post by reficul

 

Maybe the whole shooting thing isn't perfected yet?

Seems to be a little short range. That's why I would take one "When" it gets done.

JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA.

why not combine a vortex gun with this and shoot plasma balls?

the vortex gun will carry the plasma to the target....could you tell the guy to do this??

this thing would be inside a tube/vortex gun and the vortex gun would shoot the plama long distange...
tell him..

tell him.

could you do it?

like this?

www.sciencedaily.com...

The secret to Curry's success was developing a way to make the plasma form its own self-magnetic field, which holds it together while it travels through the air.

a reply to: stormbringer1701

Not to be mean here but Voltage really doesn't having
anything to do with POWER. I can have ONE MILLION VOLTS
but if my Amperage is only 0.000001 amps then i'm using
and/or emitting energy of only about one watt!
That's NOT a particularly exciting level of energy.

NOW! If we are at 3,000 Volts at 30 AMPS which is obtainable
in most commercial warehouse areas of an average city THEN
we are talking some SERIOUS WATTAGE at 90,000 WATTS!
THAT could do some serious damage to humans and
everything ELSE around you!

Power Equation:

Watts Per Unit of Time = Volts x Amps per Unit of Time
(in Seconds, Minutes or Hours)

aka Household power

120 volts x 15 Amps = 1800 watts (plus whatever unit
of time you want to specify)

which means your first stage power SOURCE must be able
to SUPPLY that type of power unit per time unit in order
for you to obtain a specific energy conversion result
--- i.e. drive a pulsed-mode or continuously driven
EM Coil or rail gun setup for a given amount of time!

So my suggestion is to buy a 120+ Kilowatt GE or a
Generac Natural Gas generator and some transformers
so that 120,000 total available Watts can drive a coil
gun at a given voltage x amperage per given unit of time.

Another measurement unit is the Joule
(ONE WATT = ONE Joule per Second) or also expressed
as the energy dissipated as heat when an electric current
of one ampere passes through a resistance of one ohm
for one second.

The purpose of the two units (Watts vs Joules) is
differentiated more by historical issues rather than
scientific equivalency issues, It kinda depends on
what type of energy transformation you are trying
to measure which indicates which type of power
unit you will use as a measuring system.

To me Watts sounds much more impressive...
Joules sounds far too dainty for me.

I like THUNDEROUS units of power measure!

So Watts it is !!!!

---

Power and energy TEND to be used interchangeably
but they are NOT QUITE the same. The best way for
me to describe the difference is by the following:

Energy = Power multiplied by Time

and

Power = Energy divided by Time

Think of a giant bucket of water
You can dump that ENTIRE bucket
in one go using it all at once
or you can divide that bucket
of water into smaller units
doled out in an evenly spaced
manner such as Small Buckets
per Second...The large bucket
tells you how much you've got
available for use in total and
and you can choose to dump
it all at once to drench an area
quickly (i.e. used to fight a fire)
OR you can dole it out in timed series
of smaller buckets allowing you to water
your plants for a whole summer!
to ration out the water for
a specific purpose.

The measurement unit you use needs
to take into account what your end
purpose is.

it was just a proof of concept demonstration you don't build a jagillion watt reactor or whatever and then try to find out if it works. usually you try to find out if it works then build the facility.


UNLESS... you're in charge of ITER. Then (of course) you build a billion jugawatz, trillion dollar facility and figure out if it works later.

So dont be suprised when the military starts shooting people with lightning.

wont work (myth-busters tried it and the charge wont carry through the air ) you realize how much power it takes to even make a spark plug for a car to work? over 7,000 dc volts to jump a 1/3 in gap!!!!
to make a spark that would have any omph at all for even 3 feet would take millions of volts at very very high ampes
That is why stun guns have wires or MUST BE in contact with skin to work.
the lighting you see in storms has enough power each BOLT could power a whole city for weeks

originally posted by: Midnightstar1365
wont work (myth-busters tried it and the charge wont carry through the air ) you realize how much power it takes to even make a spark plug for a car to work? over 7,000 dc volts to jump a 1/3 in gap!!!!
to make a spark that would have any omph at all for even 3 feet would take millions of volts at very very high ampes
That is why stun guns have wires or MUST BE in contact with skin to work.
the lighting you see in storms has enough power each BOLT could power a whole city for weeks

Wont work um yeah right!

Police will be real happy with their new version of the stun gun.

Instead of yelling don't stun me, we will be yelling don't fry me