Proof of chemtrail/geo-engineering May 11

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
So they are kind of like a Hot Rod that burns rubber down the track and then returns
on the round trip leaving a rubber smell and smoke.

No.

theyare like a car that drives down a road, gets to its destination, stops for a while, and then drives back.

I have no problem with Hot Rods in a controlled environment.
Are these planes that leave trails and smoke in a controlled environment away from the public?

What smoke?

And yes - they are in a controlled environment, and they are away from the general public other than their own passengers.

And do the spectators buy tickets and sign away their rights to the danger of these high horsepower machines putting on a show?

You get to see them for free, and there are usually fences and signs around airports warning you of the dangers, signs and announcements inside them advising how to be as safe as possible such as wearing seat belts at all times and how to use various types of emergency equipment. Also the cabin crew are trained to use a wider range of emergency equipment than the passengers have available.

Plus the whole training, control, standards and maintenance structure of air travel (pilots, mechanics, airports, aircraft design standards, maintenance systems, materials standards, etc) is designed to achieve safe affordable travel.

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Cars and planes run checks
500 times every millisecond on key systems (safety).
Power train systems also run millisecond diagnostics.
While watching people defend contrails I have not seen one contrail defender,
explain the engine on-board system checks and how it controls what comes out the tailpipe.

A contrail defender does not make one a pilot. Awful hard for most people to talk about the hands-on operation of a jet or jet engine (beyond the obvious things) without being involved in those things on a daily basis, or having been involved in the past.

I am just admitting my own sins from the past,
we worked hard to take exhaust,
turn it into CO2 something plants loved and humans exhaled.
Now all combustion,
that results in CO2 output,
is a global warming product,
and needs to be taxed and or stopped.

I just want all industry that converted their emissions
to CO2 as mandated by regulation.
To stand up, wake up!

It appears with all my training,
the only response from the government is a tax,
or outlaw some travel.

So explain,
how is 2 wings good,
4 tires bad?

Those trails in the sky we distaste are the same as our 8 lane highways the power plants,
is all a cancer waiting for us to inhale.
If I don't want to be sitting at a stop light,
6 lanes wide looking up at trails in the sky,
then it is up to me to demand that what I need
is within walking distance of my home.

See it may just be a zoning argument,
no one wants to live under a freeway
whether its on the ground or in the sky.

So anyway
I got my rant
its hard to watch chemtrail threads when
I feel we all got duped into CO2 emissions by regulation
and its all a byproduct of what we call tech.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
So they are kind of like a Hot Rod that burns rubber down the track and then returns
on the round trip leaving a rubber smell and smoke.

No.

theyare like a car that drives down a road, gets to its destination, stops for a while, and then drives back.

I have no problem with Hot Rods in a controlled environment.
Are these planes that leave trails and smoke in a controlled environment away from the public?

What smoke?

And yes - they are in a controlled environment, and they are away from the general public other than their own passengers.

And do the spectators buy tickets and sign away their rights to the danger of these high horsepower machines putting on a show?

You get to see them for free, and there are usually fences and signs around airports warning you of the dangers, signs and announcements inside them advising how to be as safe as possible such as wearing seat belts at all times and how to use various types of emergency equipment. Also the cabin crew are trained to use a wider range of emergency equipment than the passengers have available.

Plus the whole training, control, standards and maintenance structure of air travel (pilots, mechanics, airports, aircraft design standards, maintenance systems, materials standards, etc) is designed to achieve safe affordable travel.

Hold that thought,
I will go get us a beverage with CO2 in it.

CO2, drink it, see it, breath it.

Originally posted by 3danimator
reply to post by hiphoprevolution

 

And you are yet another deluded man. On one hand, our govt is so inept that they cant even get the simplest things right. On the other, they are smart enough to keep this global mega conspiracy going....its laughable how gullible you guys are.. Oh well, enjoy wasting your life pursuing something imaginary.

How does it not eat at you guys conscience?..... living life trying to get your slice of the pie while the govts start wars and spend our tax dollars on their own holidays and kids starve, like i said the rabbit hole goes WAY deeper like how bush pulled 911 for an excuse to occupy the middle east, i dont need to research chemtrails i see it with my own eyes, and i also see contrails(alot different). Maybe its just because ive had a # load of bad luck and have been on the bottom that i no longer care about money..money money it's ALL about money, but money is nothing to me so i look at life at a different angle

Originally posted by hiphoprevolution

Originally posted by 3danimator
reply to post by hiphoprevolution

 

And you are yet another deluded man. On one hand, our govt is so inept that they cant even get the simplest things right. On the other, they are smart enough to keep this global mega conspiracy going....its laughable how gullible you guys are.. Oh well, enjoy wasting your life pursuing something imaginary.

How does it not eat at you guys conscience?..... living life trying to get your slice of the pie while the govts start wars and spend our tax dollars on their own holidays and kids starve, like i said the rabbit hole goes WAY deeper like how bush pulled 911 for an excuse to occupy the middle east, i dont need to research chemtrails i see it with my own eyes, and i also see contrails(alot different). Maybe its just because ive had a # load of bad luck and have been on the bottom that i no longer care about money..money money it's ALL about money, but money is nothing to me so i look at life at a different angle

You dont need to research "chemtrails" because you see them with your own eyes? You also see contrails, which are a lot different? Well, if you have not researched, and do not need to research, how would you know what a "chemtrail" is in the first place? Explain what a "chemtrail" is, would you? I'd be willing to venture a guess that every single thing you attempt to point out about them has already been refuted in this thread.

Sir, you have given us a beautiful example of how NOT to attempt to argue a point. In a pistol duel, this would be much like us taking our paces, and before you turn around you just shoot yourself in the mouth and fall over. Opponent shrugs and moves on with life.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


You wrote that just like a performance review.

My response would be
hell boss every-time they take off it sounds like they are rev-ing the engines up,
and every time they land they leave a puff of smoke and black marks on the runway,
like a Hot Rod.

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

My response would be
hell boss every-time they take off it sounds like they are rev-ing the engines up,

Of couse htey do - reving an engine up to get enough power for what you want is pretty much what engines do!

and every time they land they leave a puff of smoke and black marks on the runway,
like a Hot Rod.

Either you do not understand hotrods or you do not understand aircraft.

Hotrods start their wheels spinning on a stationary tarmac by applying power in order to get moving.

Aircraft land with their wheels (more or less) not spinning and they get spun up to speed "instantly" because of the relative speed of the aircraft and tarmac.

While there may be some rubber burned in each case the similarity pretty much ends there.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

My response would be
hell boss every-time they take off it sounds like they are rev-ing the engines up,

Of couse htey do - reving an engine up to get enough power for what you want is pretty much what engines do!

and every time they land they leave a puff of smoke and black marks on the runway,
like a Hot Rod.

Either you do not understand hotrods or you do not understand aircraft.

Hotrods start their wheels spinning on a stationary tarmac by applying power in order to get moving.

Aircraft land with their wheels (more or less) not spinning and they get spun up to speed "instantly" because of the relative speed of the aircraft and tarmac.

While there may be some rubber burned in each case the similarity pretty much ends there.

I will not lie to you,
I do not understand people that feel the need to defend industry.
Unless you have young mouths at home to feed.
Industry in my country has thousands of lobbyists that ignore the common man,
and needs no outside input or want it.
In my country,
I am just another rambling man and no threat to the lobbyists that run my country.
If I was you,
I would take pride if you live in a country where,
what one man posts on the internet may be a threat,
or anyone even reads.

At this time My President,
is out (campaigning) making what you call contrails,
in Air Force One
while the Lobbyists run the government.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by lewtra

 

Um so why don't they block the sky over my head then?

Are people in my part of the world allowed to see what others aren't??

Now that's a silly question mate, it's obvious, they're only blocking certain places at spacific times of the day.. One things for sure, I live in the UK and I have never seen anything like that, in the op's video.. I was actually on the fence prior to watching that. Dont you find it a little odd how the trails just stop and it's back to perfectly blue skies, because I do.. Btw no proof here..

reply to post by lewtra


Thats a silly assumption mate, its obvious that its simply air traffic, in skies condusive to contrails. I live in the UK too, in Yorkshire, like you, in fact, and I see it ALL the time, here is one photo as an example, taken because it was a striking effect.



One thing I like to do is to try to capture high flying jets with my zoom lens and identify them. For this I look for days on which contrails form because they point out the plane like a big finger in the sky making the task easy. When the planes are lower and there are no trails it is almost impossible to spot them and completely impossible to focus on them. As a result I find all this pant-wetting over 'chemtrails' ridiculously stupid, especially when I was out taking photos because I knew the WEATHER would make the jets leave lots of highly visible trails.

Originally posted by waynos
reply to post by lewtra

 

Thats a silly assumption mate, its obvious that its simply air traffic, in skies condusive to contrails. I live in the UK too, in Yorkshire, like you, in fact, and I see it ALL the time, here is one photo as an example, taken because it was a striking effect.

Eyup mate.. That picture you posted is nothing like what is shown in the video, have you actually watch it..??

Like i said, I was on the fence and just find it odd how the trails just end, I never mentioned Chemtrails.. Have you any pictures that resemble the one above where the trails stop and start.. ? I have worked outdoors, all over the UK for 30+ years and never seen that before..

Anyway it looks like Human Alien and the rest have abandoned this thread so it's pointless us two Yorkshire puddings dragging it on..

reply to post by lewtra


IMO that picture of yours is an excellent example of how conditions can be different - to the right there is cirrus cloud (by the look), which is also ice crystals so is often an indicator that the conditions are right for contrails - to the left none - and the contrails follow that pattern - extending into the "clear sky" a little since the engines dump a fairly massive amount of moisture into the air that can then freeze even thought there is not quiet enough to make cloud without that.

Great illustration - thanks!

i dont need to research chemtrails i see it with my own eyes, and i also see contrails(alot different).

Let me guess, you just KNOW they are wrong? Haha...How very scientific.

This is why the rest of the world makes fun of you people. Because you say things like this...

I have lived in many places....in the hills, in urban sprawl, etc....
Once....no, twice I lived by a freeway (los angeles).
Both times, I would notice a build-up of black dust on the window sills.
That was going into my lungs.
There was a source.
It has been tested by others, and verified.
www.google.com... aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.3...2668.13955.0.14239.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.PLHXiohJCbY

So why hasn't "chemtrails" had such a bevy of testing ?
You can't say that it's because "the powers that be" somehow squash such tests....because all the testing done near freeways, includes "the powers that be" as sources of pollution.....and those tests were not squashed. Why aren't the freeway tests squashed too ?
Think about it.

I've just come across a video in another thread, what got closed because the poster did not have 20 posts..www.abovetopsecret.com... Mr Teslaandlyne put a video up which I find intriguing..Here is a grab from the video..
Excluding the orb, what is wrong in the picture ?? Umm.. Since when have engines been placed under the tail wings of a jet plane..That is where the trails are coming from, in my, dont know anything about airplains or atmospheric properties opinion..

reply to post by EyeDontKnow

So why hasn't "chemtrails" had such a bevy of testing ? You can't say that it's because "the powers that be" somehow squash such tests....because all the testing done near freeways, includes "the powers that be" as sources of pollution.....and those tests were not squashed.

I actually found the perfect plane for chemtrail belivers to use that is designed to actually fly behind planes and test contrails and give you exactly whats in it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Although I don't expect any of them to actually follow up on the info I gave them, but now they can't say anything about not having a plane.

reply to post by lewtra


You may want to zoom in to your first pic as it shows the contrails in front of the rear wings.

As for the video try the same thing as mentioned above.

Those are just ordinary contrails.