Need Help, Jehovah Witness or Government agent?

I don't live that far from a Jehovah witness church, and I have always been very friendly with them and talk with them. I have never let them in my house though.

The first time was an older couple, and over the past two years or so, I was slowly introduced to various different people.

About a year ago or so, I was first introduced to a gentleman who was not like the others.

I can't point my finger on it exactly, but there is something different about this man. His dress is very sharp, and his car is a pearl white Cadillac. I have been studying Christianity all my life and would ask certain questions, challenging them.

This gentleman never answered the questions asked, but instead stood and observed me while the other guy (different each time) would answer the religious question.

This guy seemed way more interested in what I do for a living and my knowledge on computers and the internet.

Today was the strangest meeting yet, as he came over and asked me specifically about internet security, and used an article in a Jehovah witnesses magazine as a way to start the conversation. We talked about how he can protect his computer and various cyber security risks. We did not once talk about religion, only about computers.

After about a half hour or so, he seemed happy, and I shook his hand and he went to his car.

He sat in his car for about 7 or 8 minutes and seemed to be writing some notes of some kind.

It just seemed weird.

I am not trying to be paranoid, but something about him screams "Government".

What do you feel, should I worry about it or take him at his word.

He has been visiting about once a month for about a year now, sometimes alone, sometimes with someone in the church.

NOTE: I have never nor will I ever let them in my house, especially him. He seems nice, but something doesn't seem right about him.

Should of kept your mouth shut the moment he mentioned computer security and not preaching. That's your first clue not to trust the guy. I sic my dog on anyone who comes near my house.

reply to post by tw0330


Start acting like a government agent and ask him suspicious and uncomfortable questions. If he's not the government, at least he'll be scared of you and, if he is from the government, he'll think you are a double agent and the fun ensues!

On the next rainy day they come over, say something like "The sun is sure hot today without my umbrella". Who knows? Maybe he'll think your his boss and start telling you the secrets of YHWH or maybe secrets like why Jehovah Witnesses always portrays Jesus as a BeeGees member... all white, short haired, and cropped beard. Wierd...

He just screams a Jehovah's Witness who wants to get you to convert ...government agent nah.
Next time you see him why not just ask why he is watching you etc and if he continues to freak you out call the cops

reply to post by tw0330

Jehovah's Witness. Possessive. They are witnesses of Jehovah, not Jehovah himself witnessing. Anyway, he is taking notes on you because he is trying to convert you. There is not one government agent out of ten thousand who cares enough about you to take notes on your opinions on computer security. But a Witness cares enough about you to both discuss a matter of common interest and write it down. Expect to get some magazines and maybe a book or two with nice painted illustrations soon.

I was raised JW. Been out for the last half of my life though. That's just weird. No JW would be the least bit interested in what you are detailing.

reply to post by tw0330


My first wife was a JW and from my experience Witnesses are generally good (if a little misguided) people. I too have seen JW pairs go to peoples door where one of them does most of the talking, but they usually only come in pairs...like socks. lol It's very unusual for a JW (even an Elder) to turn up at your door, uninvited and alone.

My advice is not to get too involved with the Witnesses, but only because of the mess my first wife made of my life with the help of some of the Elders of her congregation.

Rev

Im not understanding why you continue talking to someone who makes you uncomfortable. I highly doubt govt agent. Be honest with yourself, are you that important to the govt?

Originally posted by Domo1
Im not understanding why you continue talking to someone who makes you uncomfortable. I highly doubt govt agent. Be honest with yourself, are you that important to the govt?

I would hope not, I try to keep a low profile. (for now)

EH, religious people are STRANGE. What can you say?

Religious people have always BEEN strange, and always will BE strange. Its what they are.

reply to post by tw0330


Jehovah's Witness

LL you have been marked/targeted for CONVERSION

your instincts are a tad bit off, though

but you're right to be concerned

it's called a wedge,
or in sales talk: getting a foot in the door

apparently you've been a tough nut to crack
so they've brought in a specialist

after assessing you, he was simply taking notes
also the jw's have a long history of apocalyptism, this particular bunch may have latched on 2012
and thus stepped up their efforts
if you happen to be single, expect a pretty young lady in your immediate future

all the mind control stuff that has you thinking "government agent"
was originally developed by religious orgs, soo....

Why are you even talking to these folks in the first place if you are not interested in being a JW? You have got to realize by now they don't care about you personally they just want to add a person to the congregation.

reply to post by HangTheTraitors


Yes...yes we are. LOL! Star for you for making me chuckle.

Rev

Next time just ask him, "why are you staring at me like that?" That tends to smooth things out. But I do think, if they have been coming to your house for some time that they are bringing a "closer", like they do at the car dealership when the salesman can't get the job done, they bring in the manager, or a top salesman.

Sounds like you have a reputation in the JW community as a place to go to get free computer advice.

Your time is valuable, and information is power.

Charge him what your time is worth to you, if he refuses to sign the standard boilerplate contracting waiver including your fee, inform him that you can no longer speak to him about IT matters.

We used to get them especially during the Holidays because they don't celebrate holidays.
We got a "No Solicitors" sign and put by the front of the driveway. It works. They just drive on past now. BTW you can pick up one of the signs at most hardware stores or Walmart for under ten dollars.

Dude just answer the door naked. Completely naked. Don't open it a crack either. Open it all the way and just be like "hi can I help you? Come on in!" Make sure you scratch your balls every now and again while standing in your doorway.

He will not be coming in. he'll excuse himself to leave, and he'll never come back. in fact word will get around and they will knock on every other door but yours.

Try it. just make sure there are no other passerbys on the street. This weapon of terror is only aimed at the JW or other solicitors don't use it on innocent civilians.

reply to post by Furbs


love it. thanks

The naked one is good too.

reply to post by tw0330


Why don't you call the local Jehovah Witness church and find out if he is a member? I am sure they would not want people going around using their religion as a guise. His taking notes could just be to help him pick up where he left off in his efforts to convert you.

Originally posted by intrepid
I was raised JW. Been out for the last half of my life though. That's just weird. No JW would be the least bit interested in what you are detailing.

Maybe no JW that you were dealing with, but I find that each has their own way of initiating conversation. This doesnt seem out of the ordinary in the least bit. My in-laws are still JW, and my wife grew up as a JW. Dont like the teachings, dont agree with their views, and dont like how it affected my wife's childhood years.

And to those that dont want the JWs coming around ... just tell them not to come to your house anymore. If they're decent people and following what they've been instructed to do, they will not show up again.

And as a side note, witnesses do not go to church. They go to meeting, and its at what is called a Kingdom Hall. Notice a lack of windows on them? Prevents the haters from tossing molotov cocktails in