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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by popsmayhem
Interesting. You simultaneously support the will of the people while admitting the will of the people is biased and unfair.
Is there a magic number of people that should vote? The 50 is too few I guess. Unless they are homosexual then they are too many?
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by popsmayhem
Interesting. You simultaneously support the will of the people while admitting the will of the people is biased and unfair.
Is there a magic number of people that should vote? The 50 is too few I guess. Unless they are homosexual then they are too many?
Originally posted by BrokenCircles
reply to post by Kali74
Is Same Sex Marriage A Government Or Religious Issue?
Neither.
It should simply be a personal choice, which should not have any correlation to the government or the church. None of their dam business.
Originally posted by popsmayhem
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by popsmayhem
It's none of the states business period. On federal, state, or local level.
Interpersonal affairs are just that.
Let the PEOPLE DECIDE..
If it is passed, it is passed, if it is not, it is not..
Why should a small few be able to take everyone
by the cahones because they say so...
Originally posted by rebellender
every time the people have decided with a no I might add some judge comes in and reverses the vote.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Asking the State for their permission (with the contribution to their coffers) to validate a relationship is ridiculous.
Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by Kali74
so why do we insist on bringing inflammatory topics onto an open forum for discussion which will bring hundreds of pages of the same quibble as page one.
Kali, Homosexual rights in America have only been made an issue because it is a Voter base. Dems have trolled the gutter for votes on many issues.
Like Race this topic has become a Politically Correct Topic, where there is no real social reform,only repression of bias.
It is for this reason and this reason alone that we continue to have heated discussion on Topics of Religion Race and Politics...
Answers are driven by agenda, not any other reason.....
To answer your question, of course, I should be able to have a Legal civil union with my grandfather so I can collect his possessions and pensions and home rights to insurance and so forth, shouldn't I.edit on 12-5-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BioSafe
Its not a Government issue
Its not a religious issue
Its a PERSONNEL issue !
I should be able to have a Legal civil union with my grandfather so I can collect his possessions and pensions and home rights to insurance and so forth, shouldn't I
If two people, straight, gay, or lesbian, apply for a marriage/civil union license, take the blood test, and take their vows (whether in a church, magistrate's office, or even a boat captain) then they should be 100% recognized as married in the eyes of the government and that means all the benefits hetero couples enjoy.
To clarify my position on the State's Right issue: Since I believe in private property and contract law, a State's decision to not honor a contract wouldn't fit into my point of view. No "extra" privileges should be granted by the mere act of "legally" becoming a couple. Asking the State for their permission (with the contribution to their coffers) to validate a relationship is ridiculous.
Kali, Homosexual rights in America have only been made an issue because it is a Voter base. Dems have trolled the gutter for votes on many issues.
To answer your question, of course, I should be able to have a Legal civil union with my grandfather so I can collect his possessions and pensions and home rights to insurance and so forth, shouldn't I.
Originally posted by Paschar0
I should be able to have a Legal civil union with my grandfather so I can collect his possessions and pensions and home rights to insurance and so forth, shouldn't I
I actually agree with most of what you're saying, I just don't know if the example above is the best way to say it..
If you were female, it would be just as outrageous, so it's not just because of your gender that makes it "wrong" but that it's incestual. The same safeguards, rules and discouragement that are in place for male-female marriages could be used for gays couldn't they?
People get married all the time for possessions etc. and that's not OK just because they're the same gender?
edit on 12-5-2012 by Paschar0 because: (no reason given)