Why do you think we are alone in the universe?

This thread is aimed at the people that believe that we are alone in the universe.

Why do you believe that?

Wouldn't that be the same as a caveman thinking he's the only caveman in the world just because no one has entered into his cave looking for him?

The observable universe is 93 Billion Light Years. We Humans have only been around for some 250,000 years.

In my opinion it's totally absurd to assume that we are alone in the universe just because no one has come looking for us. We don't even have the technology yet to be able to travel a light year, so imagine whats out there in the 93 billion light years that we have yet to explore.

The Universe must be teeming with life

Originally posted by muse7

The Universe must be teeming with life

And that's an equally absurd statement.
It's a bit self important to assume we are the only intelligent life. On the other hand, the oft trotted out statement that 'the universe is so big there MUST be other life forms' is not a rational argument or proof of ANYTHING.
Fact is we just don't know.

The truth is out there...

I don't

reply to post by muse7


well at least I gave you a star,, for asking a thoughtful question

I don't, statistically it is virtually impossible to be alone in the universe.

The answer I believe you are looking for is religion; That pretty much screws up everything.

Good question, and good luck with the God Squad when they arrive.

reply to post by muse7

The Universe must be teeming with life

Well this solar system has only one planet that sustains life. That puts us completely alone in this solar system.

What if there is a Creator ? We have no clue where we fit in to the timeline ? What if this Creator was just getting started and something happened to cause him a delay in his plans. What if we were meant to populate what is out there ? What if if if if if ?

The fact that life exists on this planet is enough proof for me to know that there is other life out there in the Universe. It might be 100 light years away or even 5 billion light years away but to me, we are proof that the Universe is full of life.

and by life I don't mean, aliens with spaceships capable of traveling faster than light Just any form of life. It doesn't have to be intelligent

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by muse7

 

The Universe must be teeming with life

Well this solar system has only one planet that sustains life. That puts us completely alone in this solar system.

How do you know this.
Unless of course YOU are GOD ??
Then i bow down to you sir

Relatively a small amount of people on ATS actually believe we are alone in the universe. Most others don't believe we're alone, but don't believe we're being visited.

Usually when a thread like this is made, that is what is stated.

reply to post by BuggingWicked

How do you know this.

Hello ! I didn't say I knew anything. I was however trying to show that you can contemplate these kinds of questions all you want and never get close to the right answer. Especially when you already believe you know the answer in the first place.

Well this solar system has only one planet that sustains life. That puts us completely alone in this solar system

That is exactly what they have try to tell you.

I am sure that there is life in any of the planets or the moons in our solar system. What type of life I don't know, but maybe it could be intelligent life.

Also think about the mayan calendar, how could it be so exact without an advanced civilization giving precise information.

reply to post by lke123

Also think about the mayan calendar, how could it be so exact without an advanced civilization giving precise information.

The book of Enoch does give an account of just who gave man the knowledge of many things..

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Fair enough.
I agree most people will argue till thier blue in the face even when they know they are wrong.
I for one believe that we are not alone in this universe because my dog told me so !

Originally posted by BuggingWicked
reply to post by randyvs

 

Fair enough.
I agree most people will argue till thier blue in the face even when they know they are wrong.
I for one believe that we are not alone in this universe because my dog told me so !

I have no problem with that at all. As long as you don't go spelling dog backwards.

Saying that there is no other intelligent life out there in the cosmos is an argument from ignorance in my opinion. Similar to earlier arguments that claimed the earth was flat and at the centre of the universe.

We now have enough collective knowledge from the various scientific disciplines to be pretty sure that life and the stuff that makes life is widespread and evenly dispersed thoughout the universe. Instruments such as kepler are finding planetary systems around more or less every star they point it at. Biologist have found microbes that can exist in the harshest of enviroments, in short, we have learned that we are nothing special and that the conditions that fostered life here also exist countless trillions of times over and over all across the known universe.

I don't believe we are the only life in the universe, how ever it is entirely possible that we are the first.

the inverse gamblers fallacy pretty much lays out the math for this.

The inverse gambler's fallacy, named by philosopher Ian Hacking, is a formal fallacy of Bayesian inference which is similar to the better known gambler's fallacy. It is the fallacy of concluding, on the basis of an unlikely outcome of a random process, that the process is likely to have occurred many times before

reply to post by muse7


I believe that someone is watching us, and that a Universe devoid of life besides our own is just an illusion. Actually, everything is an illusion,even the very light we see in itself is an illusion; by the time it reaches us from whichever distant star and gets bent(refracted?) by the atmosphere we don't know what's really there and what's not....

Call me crazy but I think that beings from another time on this planet are here in our time and have infiltrated our society. They are controlling us and don't want any outside interference from other spacefaring civilizations, and thus, keep the status quo of a nempty universe.

It's just a hunch but this is a conspiracy theory website is it not?

I hope we are not alone in the universe but consider this :

No 2 snow flakes are ever the same and they are just simple water molecules. Think how many snow flakes must have fallen since time begun. Now what make you think that the exact conditions for intelligent life would exist and would then lead to intelligent life in more than one place in the universe. Planets are infinitely more complicated than snow flakes and there have been way more snow flakes that have ever existed than there are planets that sit in the habitable zone around a star.

Also there is no such thing as a statistical certainty based on number of planets. Thats not how probability works. Theres a 50/50 or 1 in 2 chance of getting heads when you flip a coin but there is no guarantee that if you flip the coin that it will ever land on heads.

The simple fact is that we have been looking for signs of life out there for many years and found nothing so far.

We are alone as far as UFOs are concerned as physical ships.
Anything else seems to be of a spiritual and religious and metaphysical matter.
The not alone issue seems profitable to some and a non productive area.
Microwaves from space can't be nothing new as background radiation from the
Big Bang and was disguised by Tesla as communication with Mars. He used
the not alone issue to hide his Dynamic Theory Gravity discovery.

OP --

You're not going to get a lot of people who think we are alone in the universe. Most people DO believe there is probably other life out there somewhere. to be clear here, I'm NOT saying most people believe that aliens are visiting the earth -- that's a different issue altogether.

Scientist involved in studies having to do with space (even NASA scientists) generally agree that life most likely exists elsewhere, even intelligent life

Personally, I believe that due to the size of the universe, life almost surely exists somewhere besides Earth. My use the term "almost surely" has a very specific scientific statistical meaning. "Almost surely" means the probability that life exists elsewhere is so great, that it is virtually true. However, it also means that there is a slight (albeit virtually negligible) probability of it being false.

As 'starhild10' has correctly pointed out, we can't assume it is a 100% fact that the universe must be teeming with life, just based simply on the size of the universe. Personally I'm 99.9999% sure life exists, but until we come across that life (in some manner), there is no way I could be 100% sure. How could I?