Are we all on our way out, now?

*Puts on Spiritual tin foiled hat*

Hmm maybe this is why God (Aliens) told us not to eat from the tree of knowledge? Maybe? Just Maybe?

*takes off spiritual tin-foiled hat*

I have got to say that I've never been so directly alarmed by anything until now. I'm not even anywhere near the USA but I'm very concerned. I'm now thinking I ought to speed up my plans to move back to the southern hemisphere. I think that may be futile still, because ocean seas, trade winds etc have no limits.

What is particularly alarming is the total silence of the MSM. How callous are these people? What do they know that we don't?

Hmm... that reactor #4 is a ticking time bomb, and it's not just going to sit there forever. Also, there don't appear to be any efforts to fix the situation. A lot of talk about that recently on ATS... it almost seems as if we are sensing something coming.

Good luck. And start living.

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by rebellender

 

Reb..................are your cats,outdoor cats?

they are indoor cats...and 2 are in and out

Man...that is F'd up shiz right there.

I know little about nuclear physics and radiation. I was always under the impression that it basically caused cellular mutations that lead to cancer...not third arm or third leg.

But, I wanted to offer something...it's not really what I'd call "hope" but consider this...some of these mutations may be coming from the sun and not man made. We know the sun has been building toward solar maximum for the last couple of years...it is a sine wave in a sense...it slowly builds to a peak and then slowly descends toward a minimum. We know we have damaged our atmosphere so perhaps some of these things are...well...natural.

I know that might not sound positive but I look at it this way. If it is natural, then it is what nature wants. If the natural world needs changing, then life will find a way. I don't believe for a minute that natural cycles of change will be pleasant or welcome...but it is the order of things and will happen...just as it always has.

reply to post by AmazonOfArtemis

Being human is nothing to be proud of, and we need to be stopped.

No.
Being a sadistic, evil, greedy human is nothing to be proud of, and they need to be stopped.

Originally posted by Damrod
Man...that is F'd up shiz right there.

I know little about nuclear physics and radiation. I was always under the impression that it basically caused cellular mutations that lead to cancer...not third arm or third leg.

But, I wanted to offer something...it's not really what I'd call "hope" but consider this...some of these mutations may be coming from the sun and not man made. We know the sun has been building toward solar maximum for the last couple of years...it is a sine wave in a sense...it slowly builds to a peak and then slowly descends toward a minimum. We know we have damaged our atmosphere so perhaps some of these things are...well...natural.

I know that might not sound positive but I look at it this way. If it is natural, then it is what nature wants. If the natural world needs changing, then life will find a way. I don't believe for a minute that natural cycles of change will be pleasant or welcome...but it is the order of things and will happen...just as it always has.

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you are right about one thing, we dont know, I dont think the people that know, know for sure either.
us, on our instant info (info someone uploaded and call it gospel) machines creating conspiracies, and catastrophes at the speed of light doesnt help the mind set....
we are setting our selves up for doom all the way around, one might say?

Originally posted by AmazonOfArtemis
This is just disturbing on so many levels. Being human is nothing to be proud of, and we need to be stopped.

This poor Earth.

Could you start with yourself please?

Some questions if i may?

Since faciation in plants is a normally occurring thing, is there any empirical evidence that its happening at a greater rate then normal or is this just a collation and concentration of normally occurring mutations.

Is there any evidence linking increased levels of radiation (a study showing significant and threatening increased background radiation would be nice).

Is there any evidence that increased radiation would result in faciation.

Thanks.

Earth History: ~4,600,000,000 years (~4.6 Billion)
Human History: ~200,000 years
"Civilization": ~15,000 years
Industrial Revolution: ~125 years
"Nuclear Age": ~60 years
Humanity demise: imminent

The Dinosaurs were around ("lived") for 250,000,000 years. They lived 10,000 times longer than we have, and were wiped out by a natural cataclysmic event through no fault of their own. Sometimes I wish they were still around. The Earth was much healthier then.

Humans, on the other hand, are, as a species, sadistic, belligerent, selfish, careless, ignorant, and wasteful. We do not deserve this beautiful planet, and the planet does not deserve what we are doing to it.

As this thread and many like it attest, however - it seems the "problem" (us) will not have to worry about it much longer. Of course, the sooner we're gone, the sooner the Earth can begin healing itself - which it will do.

Hopefully, the next group of sentient stewards to occupy Earth will take better care of her -and each other...

Beginning to wonder why they have built a bunch of underground bunkers now? Almost blantantly obvious.

Originally posted by Outrageo
Earth History: ~4,600,000,000 years (~4.6 Billion)
Human History: ~200,000 years
"Civilization": ~15,000 years
Industrial Revolution: ~125 years
"Nuclear Age": ~60 years
Humanity demise: imminent

The Dinosaurs were around ("lived") for 250,000,000 years. They lived 10,000 times longer than we have, and were wiped out by a natural cataclysmic event through no fault of their own. Sometimes I wish they were still around. The Earth was much healthier then.

Humans, on the other hand, are, as a species, sadistic, belligerent, selfish, careless, ignorant, and wasteful. We do not deserve this beautiful planet, and the planet does not deserve what we are doing to it.

As this thread and many like it attest, however - it seems the "problem" (us) will not have to worry about it much longer. Of course, the sooner we're gone, the sooner the Earth can begin healing itself - which it will do.

Hopefully, the next group of sentient stewards to occupy Earth will take better care of her -and each other...

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What a load of people hating old cobblers.

I take it you jump for joy when you see dying children on the news? "great, more evil humans gone".

Can you point me to the great works of diosaur art? No? Oh yeah, thats right, they were too busy eating each other.

Stop wallowing, bin the malthusian dogma and start arguing in favour of a brighter tomorrow. I refuse to accept we should all just die.

Fasciation can be caused by a mutation in the meristematic cells, bacterial infection, mite or insect attack, or chemical or mechanical damage. Some plants may inherit the trait.

en.wikipedia.org...

So just jump to the conclusion that it is mutated because of Fukishima and not the myriad of other things? Why?

reply to post by justwokeup


Thanks for your response. I appreciate it and More folks should respond as you do. I'm sure you're a human being of ACTION, and not just self-aggrandizement. Great!

Hopefully, you will be one of those that will take immediate action to remedy the situation, and lead the masses to a brighter tomorrow. That's awesome!

What - oh, you're still on the couch? Still cruising forums pointing fingers and getting your warm-and-fuzzy ego bruised? Sorry - I thought you were a leader... You're not? Can you point one out for us? We'd like to know who is going to engineer and administer humanity's salvation! I don't see a whole lot of people stepping up.

Sleep well, my friend...

Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by rebellender

 

Reb..................are your cats,outdoor cats?

they are indoor cats...and 2 are in and out

Would it hurt to keep the cats that go outside,in for a week? Then for sure,you could figure out if it was an outdoor problem,being brought in.

What am I missing here? How do you guys know this is from fallout from Fukushima? I see whacked out looking plants all the time. I've seen strawberries that looked mutated long before Fukushima.

i hope we have a zombie apocalypse that would make my day

reply to post by Outrageo


I never said i was a leader of anything. I don't have the easy charisma necessary.

However, the creeping anti-humanism thats gaining a foothold in society terrifies me. Your post is an example of it. 'The poor planet, we must protect the planet from people etc etc"

We need to engineer a way out of our problems. Not abandon our right to exist, or teach our children that humanity is an evil thing that must be constrained.

A massive shift to nuclear in the west would be start, coupled with massive investment in fusion tech. I argue those things regularly but the anti human eco warrior brainwashing is strong.

Originally posted by justwokeup
reply to post by Outrageo

 

I never said i was a leader of anything. I don't have the easy charisma necessary.

However, the creeping anti-humanism thats gaining a foothold in society terrifies me. Your post is an example of it. 'The poor planet, we must protect the planet from people etc etc"

We need to engineer a way out of our problems. Not abandon our right to exist, or teach our children that humanity is an evil thing that must be constrained.

A massive shift to nuclear in the west would be start, coupled with massive investment in fusion tech. I argue those things regularly but the anti human eco warrior brainwashing is strong.

Yeah....let's build a couple more Fukishima reactors...just to make sure we damage every square inch before we check out.....

Whatever dude... I am at peace....if it is time to check out...I'm ok with that....those that are clinging to some false hope....well...you are doomed to repeat this nightmare over and over until you are ready to let it all go....I am...why can't you?

You need to understand the philosophers of old was trying to tell you something. if you die in fear, you have to come back and do it again...and again...and again....I am tired of being afraid....I am not coming back anymore...I am not afraid any longer....

I no longer fear what is to come....if I pass into the next level...awesome...if I fall into a lake of fire....well...f*ck it...it can't be that much more miserable than where we are now...the lake of fire btw is a metaphor for the misery of doing it over and over and over.....

you folks are missing out....the liberation is letting go...just let it all go....it means nothing....the next step is far more interesting than this one....just silently tell yourself...'I am ready to move on"...and be done with it...stop clinging to this false materialism....it is a trick set here to fool and distract you....come and join us in the next phase....I'll burn a fatty and we can all have a good time before we step nto the next wave....how cool is that?

Originally posted by GrimReaper86
reply to post by Saucerwench

 

FOR THE LOVE OF.... STOP THE #ING RADIATION FROM SPEWING FORTH! Cement that #ing place up like they did with Chernobyl. At least it would stop the spread. Amaright?

Until the fission fragments left over from the Uranium chain reactions decay to a stable state, they can't concrete it up (it would literally just melt through the concrete).