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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99

Originally posted by rusty1212



oops forgot to embed


I'm glad there is another, find him very interesting. I like his account.



yes unity i was waiting for a new video for about a month btw sorry for not responding back i read your comments all the way through and find them insightful !



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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I didn't see the post was at the end of the page, so added a little to it. Its not quite as easy as his video, there seems to be more of a veil than that. It was a good video though and he has a lot of integrity.
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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by rusty1212
 



I didn't see the post was at the end of the page, so added a little to it. Its not quite as easy as his video, there seems to be more of a veil than that. It was a good video though and he has a lot of integrity.
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i guess they set up a site with some "lessons" did you check it out? seems a little hypnotic to me



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 07:24 PM
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here i got a link for you

elohimlove.com...


is it just be or is it trance induced?



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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Well the awkwards words "kill" the ego and "destroy" something or other,should be removed, its incongruent to the overall trance message. In the beginning I saw myself with others looking in on the earth from a different position, it also seemed like looking in on the universe too. Reminded me of a meditation/vision of standing on the universe as if it was a poster, the surface was hard and couldn't get back in. A friend had said to picture flying through the universe, becoming more of self/spirit/soul, expanding more and growing bigger. I was able to reset the goal in the meditation and picture flying again, when a man, light being, arrived and he pointed up, and then I exited the universe a second time.

That was more like the White Room people talk about, a plane that was very white light, gardens a town square, a fountain, colors that were subdued and inundated by the light. And this old man, that i'd experienced before, both my son and I at the same time experienced this man/guide, he stepped out of the sky and was laughing with delight at the students trying to understand "infinity", that was our discussion. And my son bolted upright and I noticed, so I knew I wasn't just being kooky. I tested by saying carefully, "he laughed!" and my son in shock nodded, so we talked about Guides then.

But, this was the same man, and he wanted to give me a life reveiw and then I woke up.

The universe is one school, and outside of this universe, that is where home is.
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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Well the awkwards words "kill" the ego and "destroy" something or other,should be removed, its incongruent to the overall trance message. In the beginning I saw myself with others looking in on the earth from a different position, it also seemed like looking in on the universe too. Reminded me of a meditation/vision of standing on the universe as if it was a poster, the surface was hard and couldn't get back in. A friend had said to picture flying through the universe, becoming more of self/spirit/soul, expanding more and growing bigger. I was able to reset the goal in the meditation and picture flying again, when a man, light being, arrived and he pointed up, and then I exited the universe a second time.

That was more like the White Room people talk about, a plane that was very white light, gardens a town square, a fountain, colors that were subdued and inundated by the light. And this old man, that i'd experienced before, both my son and I at the same time experienced this man/guide, he stepped out of the sky and was laughing with delight at the students trying to understand "infinity", that was our discussion. And my son bolted upright and I noticed, so I knew I wasn't just being kooky. I tested by saying carefully, "he laughed!" and my son in shock nodded, so we talked about Guides then.

But, this was the same man, and he wanted to give me a life reveiw and then I woke up.

The universe is one school, and outside of this universe, that is where home is.
edit on 13-6-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



but he is saying you must destroy the ego to be born anew, cant you resonate with this?



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Its the words, though, kill and destroy, and his auditory is really good, and would even be better if those negative words were taken out. Because it had an affect, ie. had a sense of moving beyond this persona, this life in the beginning, I'm just saying that I kind of came out of that place with those other words.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by rusty1212
 


Its the words, though, kill and destroy, and his auditory is really good, and would even be better if those negative words were taken out. Because it had an affect, ie. had a sense of moving beyond this persona, this life in the beginning, I'm just saying that I kind of came out of that place with those other words. [/quote


do you think it was sincere



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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wonder how this plays into all of this



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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The transhumanism. Its like a double edged sword. There is a positive use for it, for cosmic citizens with more advanced technologies who are not using their technologies to harm and have reached the stage of standing for equality, and service to others and clean tech that does not harm. They live longer than we do, some thousands of years, perhaps it can be said, like Dolores Cannon writes, that they choose when they want to progress onwards and die, for they are very young, and keep at optimum health. This doesnt work in overpopulation, so they are very responsible for when they choose to parent children, and being telepathic, they are not islands to themselves but know that they need to conduct themselves freely yet with responsibility. It is not NWO style however, not fascism.

But, the other side also has transhumanism as its goal for other reasons, mainly that they can't go back home, face the music of what they've done so far.

Sleeper/Lou Baldin wrote on his site that the leader of North Korea, would have been rewarded/promoted, when he died, and sent back. He has also written that the various nations of earth are all under different slave Et's management, that they run the different slave camps and that the souls that come in from various areas, are placed without accident, carefully, and I think he meant within family groups, that they were from the systems that the various slavers were connected to, either from or maybe they were a part of the management teams there. I am paraphrasing and going with what I felt he meant in this last part.

Now this can't happen. You do what that North Korea's leader did, and you would be facing law of consequence and mirrors of what you'd done. At least this is what they shove down everyone else's throat.

Bullies don't get rewarded. Or do they?

Its my belief that their negative ET handlers, the puppet masters, basically threaten and control a certain group of managers on this planet, who due to their behavior and mistreatment of others would be going to the pit, and experiencing what they had done to others, and out of fear of this, these PTB obey, the bad plans of Legion and the Dark Side.

That they have been avoiding the Review process and consequence, and the pit, the very elite amongst them, and their souls just get put back here, by the Ets. They continue to run the show and are doing all they can to avoid the review process and experiencing perfect knowledge or the mirror, of what their victims went through. For if they did that, they would repent, they would have tears running down their face at their behavior and ashamed, at ever harming the hair of another family, or extended family member, and their own soul would shake them down hard and rub their nose in the pain they caused others.

So, transhumanism for them is their scrambling to be Off The Hook, for as long as they can, barring the Universal Upgrade or moment Family would say, nope its over, there was a limit to the lenght of time the whole thing would take.

So unless this is a final cycle, they're giving it their all to avoid, and obeying really bad orders from the Dark Side who will not save them from the mirrors otherwise.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by rusty1212
 


The transhumanism. Its like a double edged sword. There is a positive use for it, for cosmic citizens with more advanced technologies who are not using their technologies to harm and have reached the stage of standing for equality, and service to others and clean tech that does not harm. They live longer than we do, some thousands of years, perhaps it can be said, like Dolores Cannon writes, that they choose when they want to progress onwards and die, for they are very young, and keep at optimum health. This doesnt work in overpopulation, so they are very responsible for when they choose to parent children, and being telepathic, they are not islands to themselves but know that they need to conduct themselves freely yet with responsibility. It is not NWO style however, not fascism.

But, the other side also has transhumanism as its goal for other reasons, mainly that they can't go back home, face the music of what they've done so far.

Sleeper/Lou Baldin wrote on his site that the leader of North Korea, would have been rewarded/promoted, when he died, and sent back. He has also written that the various nations of earth are all under different slave Et's management, that they run the different slave camps and that the souls that come in from various areas, are placed without accident, carefully, and I think he meant within family groups, that they were from the systems that the various slavers were connected to, either from or maybe they were a part of the management teams there. I am paraphrasing and going with what I felt he meant in this last part.

Now this can't happen. You do what that North Korea's leader did, and you would be facing law of consequence and mirrors of what you'd done. At least this is what they shove down everyone else's throat.

Bullies don't get rewarded. Or do they?

Its my belief that their negative ET handlers, the puppet masters, basically threaten and control a certain group of managers on this planet, who due to their behavior and mistreatment of others would be going to the pit, and experiencing what they had done to others, and out of fear of this, these PTB obey, the bad plans of Legion and the Dark Side.

That they have been avoiding the Review process and consequence, and the pit, the very elite amongst them, and their souls just get put back here, by the Ets. They continue to run the show and are doing all they can to avoid the review process and experiencing perfect knowledge or the mirror, of what their victims went through. For if they did that, they would repent, they would have tears running down their face at their behavior and ashamed, at ever harming the hair of another family, or extended family member, and their own soul would shake them down hard and rub their nose in the pain they caused others.

So, transhumanism for them is their scrambling to be Off The Hook, for as long as they can, barring the Universal Upgrade or moment Family would say, nope its over, there was a limit to the lenght of time the whole thing would take.

So unless this is a final cycle, they're giving it their all to avoid, and obeying really bad orders from the Dark Side who will not save them from the mirrors otherwise.




if bullies get rewarded that means this earth is controlled by the dark side

so what is the point of being good?

unless karma is true or life after death is true



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Yes but that takes a long very deep look at the living library we call earth, and the universe, and all the codings, and what we know here at least about evil, to look and see, if there is even a chance that all the positive thoughts, feelings, memories, visions, connections, even memories that I've had since childhood, are just some kind of strange programming by a darkside that ruiles all. Because if it doesnt rule all, and truly is lower frequency like many of us realize, then it is confined to certain levels of density, and that means that something ever greater withinin Infinity, and like attracts like, family groupings, so this even Greater Thing would be the opposite of evil and gravity and would be Love and Goodness, and it would be over evil's head.

One also needs to think deeply on the principles of infinity and what infinity means and looks like in at least the basic abc levels that our processors could ascertain.

Because so many bad things have happened here on earth and I've quit this world and life many times, refused to walk another step, for to me, the bad things that are occurring destroy all of creation and that you can't build heaven on such things.

But even when I quit, I was not off the hook, and about 8-10 years ago now, when I quit that last time, I had this sensation of Presence/Spirit in my heart, waiting patiently. I ignored this Spirit for a couple days until finally I said, OK what, what, what are you tryign to show me, there is nothing left to say, there is no way I can compromise on this issue.

I was shown infinite progression. And that on each level, where everything was delegated for the growth and learning of other levels, in a steep learning process. I was shown, not God or Family above making all the decisions here, but a middle management group, that therefore, since there lessons were to arrange our lessons, they could be wrong.

That there was a set time also because I always felt that things would change and have always had faith in God/Goodness/Love overhead.

But I always remembered coming in, even at 2 or 3, when I was wondering where I came from, remembered beaming in like a conscious ray of light and taking the womb.

And knew what love was, and what a loving world was.

If you study Nazi Germany, and see what they did in their horrible experiments with humans and how brutal they were, then ask yourself, could something even more negative than these top SS Nazi's have created nature, beauty, sunsets, flowers, waterfalls, leaping dolphins, the love of mother for their child, the innocent heart of a child. How could they? They don't even begin to understand what they are smashing and ruining, they don't remember or if they remember anything, it is with such a distorted filter of anger and self hatred on that they can't begin to see clearly.

There is something very Loving and Kind and Good over the heads of all, and it interacts daily with us if we let it, if we say Thank You!

So its only in the short run the negatives have the ability to reward their own and avoid the mirror or consequence.

Even if you believe in the healing and redemption of all in the end, in each greater cycle and every universe, like I do, it doesnt mean that one can do horrible to ohters without vicariously going through that with them. And since this is a thoughtscape in itself, if you're going to vicariously go through what you've done, then how is that different than a temporal hellzone? Though I hope there will be alot more help for people. Someone who has done terrible things may even need their memory banks erased for a time and begin to raise above this, again, with a lot more love next time, a lot more help and intervention and only when they are very high frequency, would it be safe to get a few memories back, and to say, yeah that was way back then when I was still primitive, but I have learnt to help others so much more now.

Sometimes I even wonder if this veil on our memories is hiding things that would hurt our advancement to recall?



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by rusty1212
 


Yes but that takes a long very deep look at the living library we call earth, and the universe, and all the codings, and what we know here at least about evil, to look and see, if there is even a chance that all the positive thoughts, feelings, memories, visions, connections, even memories that I've had since childhood, are just some kind of strange programming by a darkside that ruiles all. Because if it doesnt rule all, and truly is lower frequency like many of us realize, then it is confined to certain levels of density, and that means that something ever greater withinin Infinity, and like attracts like, family groupings, so this even Greater Thing would be the opposite of evil and gravity and would be Love and Goodness, and it would be over evil's head.

One also needs to think deeply on the principles of infinity and what infinity means and looks like in at least the basic abc levels that our processors could ascertain.

Because so many bad things have happened here on earth and I've quit this world and life many times, refused to walk another step, for to me, the bad things that are occurring destroy all of creation and that you can't build heaven on such things.

But even when I quit, I was not off the hook, and about 8-10 years ago now, when I quit that last time, I had this sensation of Presence/Spirit in my heart, waiting patiently. I ignored this Spirit for a couple days until finally I said, OK what, what, what are you tryign to show me, there is nothing left to say, there is no way I can compromise on this issue.

I was shown infinite progression. And that on each level, where everything was delegated for the growth and learning of other levels, in a steep learning process. I was shown, not God or Family above making all the decisions here, but a middle management group, that therefore, since there lessons were to arrange our lessons, they could be wrong.

That there was a set time also because I always felt that things would change and have always had faith in God/Goodness/Love overhead.

But I always remembered coming in, even at 2 or 3, when I was wondering where I came from, remembered beaming in like a conscious ray of light and taking the womb.

And knew what love was, and what a loving world was.

If you study Nazi Germany, and see what they did in their horrible experiments with humans and how brutal they were, then ask yourself, could something even more negative than these top SS Nazi's have created nature, beauty, sunsets, flowers, waterfalls, leaping dolphins, the love of mother for their child, the innocent heart of a child. How could they? They don't even begin to understand what they are smashing and ruining, they don't remember or if they remember anything, it is with such a distorted filter of anger and self hatred on that they can't begin to see clearly.

There is something very Loving and Kind and Good over the heads of all, and it interacts daily with us if we let it, if we say Thank You!

So its only in the short run the negatives have the ability to reward their own and avoid the mirror or consequence.

Even if you believe in the healing and redemption of all in the end, in each greater cycle and every universe, like I do, it doesnt mean that one can do horrible to ohters without vicariously going through that with them. And since this is a thoughtscape in itself, if you're going to vicariously go through what you've done, then how is that different than a temporal hellzone? Though I hope there will be alot more help for people. Someone who has done terrible things may even need their memory banks erased for a time and begin to raise above this, again, with a lot more love next time, a lot more help and intervention and only when they are very high frequency, would it be safe to get a few memories back, and to say, yeah that was way back then when I was still primitive, but I have learnt to help others so much more now.

Sometimes I even wonder if this veil on our memories is hiding things that would hurt our advancement to recall?




so pretty much your saying there is no benefit in being good? or am i misunderstanding



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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So he died and went to heaven and spoke with God?

I don't even have to watch the video, the title states exactly who he met.....

Great, saved myself 22 minutes of my life....

Hit me up when you are talking about aliens though.....I am interested in a video about aliens, I already know about my god....

Peace



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
reply to post by rusty1212
 


So he died and went to heaven and spoke with God?

I don't even have to watch the video, the title states exactly who he met.....

Great, saved myself 22 minutes of my life....

Hit me up when you are talking about aliens though.....I am interested in a video about aliens, I already know about my god....

Peace



well that depends do you consider god to be aliens? lol maybe u should watch it



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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Original video. "I'll try to be as honest as possible". That's all I needed to hear.

Why would you say that if you were truthful to begin with?



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by amongus
Original video. "I'll try to be as honest as possible". That's all I needed to hear.

Why would you say that if you were truthful to begin with?




go to 4:30 i think it was theres your answer



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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You're misunderstanding. I 'm saying evil cannot be on the top echlens, and it just takes examining the school and waking and remembering why you're here.

Another thing I've noticed is the Grey Ets not all greys. The zeta ones or those working for the dark side they're the ones behind most of the corruption here and the leaders do their bidding. They are also doing all they can to halt human evolution or earth ascending, and cause difficulties in people's lives, being targetted by them, to try and interfere with your goals and missions while here. They can't upgrade themselves, some can, but not the zeta's and the ones controlling this matrix.

They don't want disclosure because even a false flag blue beam type disclosure, and this is the scenario I have heard, would mean its wide open and the good guys can show up, those who are generally non interference.

The economy is crashing. TPTB have Israel start a war with Iran and soon China and North Korea and Russia join in. WW3. this solves the economy crashing and industry starts again, but many people are harmed by this and desperate for peace. It could last for years even.

Then the negative Ets that are their overlords, arrive and they do a concerted effort, the world unites to stop them and NWO is implemented. In this process they do away with the major religions.

I don't see this as playing out quite as they wish.

Also in that situation the ET is faked or done with an agreement. However, the controllers and negative Greys do NOT WANT disclosure. They are working to halt evolution and progression and continue to entrap humanity.

IF disclosure happens, THEN ANYONE CAN COME IN. THE VEIL HAS LIFTED. And of course, we won't choose the bad side.

We'd get help.

So, that is the last thing the Royal Zeta Retticuli want.

And in these upcoming upheavals and climate change/earth change, and mostly manmade/ET made disasters we are facing, such as Fukushima, and earthquakes, tornados, floods, etc.

Have you not noticed that those who are awake, tend to be front row, on the coast, or in the earthquake zones.

Why do you think that is? Are we not to hold light and mitigate the dark side plans?

Should we all not awaken then and get to work?
edit on 14-6-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by rusty1212
 


You're misunderstanding. I 'm saying evil cannot be on the top echlens, and it just takes examining the school and waking and remembering why you're here.

Another thing I've noticed is the Grey Ets not all greys. The zeta ones or those working for the dark side they're the ones behind most of the corruption here and the leaders do their bidding. They are also doing all they can to halt human evolution or earth ascending, and cause difficulties in people's lives, being targetted by them, to try and interfere with your goals and missions while here. They can't upgrade themselves, some can, but not the zeta's and the ones controlling this matrix.

They don't want disclosure because even a false flag blue beam type disclosure, and this is the scenario I have heard, would mean its wide open and the good guys can show up, those who are generally non interference.

The economy is crashing. TPTB have Israel start a war with Iran and soon China and North Korea and Russia join in. WW3. this solves the economy crashing and industry starts again, but many people are harmed by this and desperate for peace. It could last for years even.

Then the negative Ets that are their overlords, arrive and they do a concerted effort, the world unites to stop them and NWO is implemented. In this process they do away with the major religions.

I don't see this as playing out quite as they wish.

Also in that situation the ET is faked or done with an agreement. However, the controllers and negative Greys do NOT WANT disclosure. They are working to halt evolution and progression and continue to entrap humanity.

IF disclosure happens, THEN ANYONE CAN COME IN. THE VEIL HAS LIFTED. And of course, we won't choose the bad side.

We'd get help.

So, that is the last thing the Royal Zeta Retticuli want.

And in these upcoming upheavals and climate change/earth change, and mostly manmade/ET made disasters we are facing, such as Fukushima, and earthquakes, tornados, floods, etc.

Have you not noticed that those who are awake, tend to be front row, on the coast, or in the earthquake zones.

Why do you think that is? Are we not to hold light and mitigate the dark side plans?

Should we all not awaken then and get to work?
edit on 14-6-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)




wait so your saying those that rule the world are not evil1?!?!?



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Again, no I'm not saying that, I'm saying that one branch of the greys, the royal zeta reticulli, are a part of the annanuki or controlling group and they are controlling all the leaders, and this planet and trying to prevent its ascension/evolution/progression.

Other greys are not as bad, some are positive.

But this group is controlling all the leaders, replacing some, after death, rewarding and sending some back. There are doing very bad things and attempting to keep us in another brutal slave cycle and have soul traps.

When bad things happen that cause us stress, its often them. They work to keep us asleep, confused, stressed, angry, and unable to do our soul missions.







 
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