Woman In Black Burka Kicked Out Of Obama Campaign Event

reply to post by poet1b

Now you are just being ridiculous.

Pot calling kettle black

Like all Christians run around with crosses large enough to make an effective C4 bomb

Like all Muslims run around with bombs strapped under their burqas?

They should always have bomb sniffing dogs IMO

To which you replied:

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Which costs time, which takes money.

edit on 8-5-2012 by poet1b because: typo

Stop pushing your beliefs on us.

When did I push my beliefs on you and the rest of "us" Who is "us"? You do not know my beliefs

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Make em take of the coat, the burqa, the large bling for inspection.

Sounds reasonable to me.

reply to post by poet1b


What about the underwear?

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


You said all Christians, I did not say all Muslims, only pointed out the threat of the burqa.

Clearly you have no desire to deal with reason or logic.

You are a good reason for creating laws that ban the burqa.

reply to post by poet1b

only pointed out the threat of the burqa.

I pointed out the threat of fat people, and underwear. Actually clothes in general are a threat, you can even hide a large knife under even well fitting clothes. What should we do?

reply to post by The Sword


We are doing what needs to be done to NOT become like some wacko Muslim state with morality police.

Therefore we apply common sense laws. Don't walk around naked, and don't walk around covered from head to toe wearing a mask.

Respect our standards, or leave our community.

reply to post by poet1b

Respect our standards, or leave our community.

The US Constitution states, freedom of religion, that is the standard. Dont like it? Leave the Muslim USA.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


We start by banning the burqa for all the logical reasons.

Pull aside people wearing what looks like adult diapers, or unrealistically baggy clothing, as I have already stated.

reply to post by poet1b


Why not ban underwear and fat people too first? Why do you have to ban the burqa FIRST? I think we should ban clothes first because you can easily hide concealed weapons under clothes. Therefore banning clothes should be the first logical step as they offer the most threat.

for all the logical reasons.

Name the logical reasons please.

Pull aside people wearing what looks like adult diapers

How would you know they are wearing adult diapers?

This is what the First Amendment states.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

www.law.cornell.edu...

Forcing people to accept the wearing of the burqa would be creating a law establishing religion, therefor not allowed. Not wearing a burqa does not prevent someone from exercising their religion. You can do what you want in private, as long as it is not violating law, but you can't force your religious beliefs on others, and that is the intent of the First Amendment.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Man, your not gonna get through to them, this has people's favorite two subjects of hate rage, Obama and Muslims. They don't honestly know which one to hate more. They don't want any understanding or empathy for either one. All they know is hate.

We don't know why the woman was escorted from the event. She could have been an anti war protester, she could have been an anti Israel protester, she could have been just nuts, hell, she could simply have had really really bad falafel farts. The article doesn't say, so we don't know.

But it doesn't matter to these people because she is of a different culture and religion than they are, and therefore to them automatically evil.

reply to post by poet1b


A burqa is a part of their religion. Then the same can therefore be said of the cross, placing or wearing a cross anywhere should be banned as well as long as you it in private. Remove all crosses from public view.

but you can't force your religious beliefs on others, and that is the intent of the First Amendment.

How is her wearing a burqa forcing her religious belief on you?

reply to post by poet1b


Actually, you are ass backwards on this. Forcing people to NOT wear a burka would be against the 1st Amendment. Sorry it pisses you off so much, but deal.

You aren't the only people on this planet or in this great nation of ours.

It never ceases to amaze me how hypocritical certain people are.

You tell me, that a woman has an equal right to practice her religion. I say fine.

You tell me, that modesty and humbleness are what is expressed through the burka. I say fine.

But do tell me, oh warrior of justice, where is the reward in heaven for women that are modest and wear the burka in Islam? What about rewards in the afterlife for a man?

Nowhere! And so your whole bullcrap arguments that a woman has equal rights is shattered because you guys did not bother to research what the hell you're arguing about. There are no equal rights in religion. If it was up to religion there would be no freedom of religion.

And what's that about teen pregnancies being low in Arabic countries, mr. not-so-Professional? Do you want to look at the amount of sexual abuse in those countries too while you're at it? How about number of children per household? How about women's rights in those countries...gee, I wonder if any of these burka wearing women decide to change religion, how free they are to do so? Whether that be in the ever retarded Saudi Arabia or America, I bet their fellow nutcase religio-freaks wouldn't be too happy...woops, there's the rest of your nonsense argument about "freedom of religion"...

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


I have already explained this.

All you are doing now is trolling. Throwing up meaningless posts intended to destroy the conversation.

When wearing appropriate clothing, it is very difficult to conceal a weapon or a bomb. Which is why we have a right to demand that people dress properly.

reply to post by poet1b


Also are you not limiting the rights of this woman to wear a burqa? Are you not limiting her rights as a woman to wear the burqa? I thought the USA was praised for womens rights.

reply to post by poet1b

When wearing appropriate clothing, it is very difficult to conceal a weapon or a bomb. Which is why we have a right to demand that people dress properly.

Anyone can wear a suit and carry lots of ammo and guns under the suit. A suit is proper dress yet they still have weapons under it.

When wearing appropriate clothing,

Also what is 'appropriate clothing'? And who are you to determine 'appropriate clothing'

reply to post by stanguilles7


Classic case of: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

It's around election time right? WINK WINK.

(the OP makes it too easy to see through him)

There are so many gross replies in this thread. Racism, ignorance, intolerance. It's like a smorgasboard of what is wrong with our society.

If she was removed soley due to the burka that's ridiculous, and yes infringing on her rights.

If she was removed for another reason let's find out what that is before jumping all over conclusions.

This country was NOT for the gazillionth time founded on Christianity. It WAS founded on equality and religious tolerance.

Quotes from Thomas Jefferson:

"And the day will come, when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His Father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva, in the brain of Jupiter."

"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

But since we're being ridiculous. You know what's a security risk? Halloween Costumes. Let's ban those. No telling what those nefarious 12 year olds have under there.

reply to post by HauntWok


No, not allowing the wearing of a burqa is a reasonable law for security purposes.

Demanding that wearing a burqa out of the claim that it is a religious belief would be using the law to force a religious belief onto others. Clearly this is not allowed in the first amendment.

There is more reason to allow people to walk around naked and have sex in public that there is justification for the wearing of a burqa. Yet we have laws against public nudity, and sexual acts in public, even though such acts could be called a part of a religious belief.