Why I chose Mitt Romney over Ron Paul and Barack Huessein Obama II

reply to post by jjf3rd77


The fact that he is a Mormon should disqualify him from presidency or rules should be created to clearly explain to the people the implications.

I'm all for religious freedom, but unless this Church represents more than 51% of the Americans ethically this should cause at least some concern. This and that he vowed military action with Iran...

I write this not about religion but about loyalties and commitments I'm not and expert in LDS but some distinction in regards to other religions must be made, and he was something like a bishop on the LDS hierarchy. He has made vows of fealty.

From Wikipedia

Mormons ... have a fairly open definition of scripture. As a general rule, anything spoken or written by a prophet, while under inspiration, is considered to be the word of God.

... the LDS Church has a top-down hierarchical structure with a president/prophet dictating revelations for the whole church, there is a bottom-up aspect as well. Ordinary Mormons have access to the same inspiration that is thought to guide their prophets, and are encouraged to seek their own personal revelations.

You had a president that talked with God in his head, if this one gets elected this time God will be upgraded to have a physical voice...

Not to speak of the any benefits to the Church itself that is more or less the grandparent of Scientology, much larger and almost as many secrets.

Its called common sense -___- if you cannot tell Mitt Romney is a well-groomed incompetent retard,then by all means waste your vote on him.RP is the only sensibly choice,the only canditate who holds potential for a possibly positive change.Like that previous member said,its also instincts too..OP do you believe everything your told?or only if its wearing a suit and tie and is being aired to you on your 30" TV?Use a little common sense when listening to this idiot,if this does not tell you anything about Spit Romney than nothing will and it is too late.


YOUR CHOICE,has even Chosen RON PAUL

reply to post by budaruskie


Did he pinky swear? I might have to change my mind then. No one would ever tell you exactly what you want to hear, then get elected and changed everything they said, would they? Even politicians?

Pinky swearing might be what we need here. lol

yes, he wants to allow businesses to let more pollutants into the air, so they will come back to the US and turn our countryside into something similar to china's and india!
He want to kill planned parenthood, so the million or so babies that are born (ever notice the rate of deformaties in china and india?) He wants to "modernize" social security- raise the retirement age, change the benefits for half the boomers only, basically, take away from us.... He wants to privatize amtrak, cut legal services (the poor don't need legal representation anyways, what, you think they have legal rights??) and PBS (although there are some areas of the country that get no other radio stations believe it or not!!)

Basically he has plans to make cuts in areas that actually make a difference for average citizens, and then, turn around and probably blow more money than he cut in the form of tax breaks (going more for the rich than the rest of us), more bailouts and such to big businesses, and of course, who can forget the war, got to have a good war, to justify not holding the budget in line with the revenues coming in!!!

he doesn't have the magic wand that is gonna make everything better like some seem to believe. only mickey has the wand!
Vote for Mickey Mouse...he's got the magic!!
and that is what it's gonna take at this point in the game to fix this mess, supernatural magic!!!

reply to post by snusfanatic

Don't care. It's not going to happen. And he has an even smaller chance as winning with an indie or third party run. It's over, you have Romney and Obama. It stinks but that's reality.

It's not over until the fat lady sings. The MSM would love you to believe it's over, but that simply is not the case. Ron Paul still has a fair chance of winning, especially if his supporters stay strong and don't elect some moron because they think "it's not going to happen". That is how RP will loose, because the support he had couldn't even muster the effort to stay as consistent as he is.

*slaps hand on head*

sigh..



I just don't get how people don't see what's right in front of them..

im just bewildered

reply to post by jjf3rd77


I understand that you are polling against Obama as he his the republican axis, but what i dont understand is why you lump Ron Paul into the mix. According to the media Ron Paul has no chance of winning if things go their way, so what are you afraid of that you feel you have to bash Paul? You also have an extensive knowledge of Romneys plans. Dont get me wrong you might just be avid supporter but a lot of americans (especially those that frequent sites like this) dont support people like Romney. Whats your angle here?

AND in your title you also say "Why I chose Romney", not why i choose. Im sorry, is the election over?

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
The highly anticipated thread about why I am voting for Mitt Romney:

A few bullet points to get your minds going...

Mitt Romney believes that it is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon.
Believes in a strong military offensive as well as defensive.
Mitt Romney wants to amend the clean air act and any other crazy environmental polices that Obama has enacted in his three years.
Mitt Romney would like to modernized medicare and social security so that they are sustainable for our generation.
Mitt Romney believes whole heatedly in legal immigration, as his family were immigrants. As were all of ours. He knows the system for immigration is broken and he wants to streamline it and take away unnecessary regulations that makes it harder for immigrants to come here. He will secure the border and take away all entitlements which entice immigrants to come here illegally.
Mitt Romney understands that any economic turnaround starts with realistic and attainable goals. Which is why he has proposed his plan which cuts federal spending below 20% for the first year. He will cut $500 Billion by 2016. He will also make congress cut 5% of their budget across the board on day one!

Other plans that affect the economy will be to:
repeal ObamaCare saving $95 Billion as well as individual liberty
He wants to privatize Amtrak which will save us 1.6 Billion
He wants to cut $600 Million in federal subsidies to corporations like PBS and Legal Services Corporation
He wants to eliminate Planned Parenthood which will save us $300 Million
He wants to reduce foreign aid by $100 Million and ask congress why they are sending money to enemies of America. He will eliminate that as well.

For personal income Mitt Romney would like to make 20% tax cuts across the board
Eliminate taxes for those making $200,000 or LESS
For Corporations he would like to make a 25% tax cut across the board.

For Health Care. In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens.

Let me know if you want me to include something that I missed and I will surely go back and tell you what Romney wants to do. See, Mitt Romney does not look like Obama so much now does he? While he may not have "revolutionary" plans like Ron Paul, we can't honestly start to fix the problems without first doing something drastic but reasonable and realistic about them!

All information was taken from MittRomney.com

edit on 6-5-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)

You might like what he says he will do.

But since when has a president actually done what they say they will while campaigning?

Remember a man named Barrack Obama?

You may reply by saying "well how do you know Paul wont pull the same smoke and mirror show?"

Well..look at his record. His ideals consistently show up in his voting record, and in his propositions.

He's honest..So honest infact that it probably bothers other politicians that want to deny any corruption, and act like everything is just peachy.

Well it's not.

And if we elect Mitt, it'll just be the same old crap. Broken promises and shocking changes to our freedoms.

There's a reason Goldmann Sachs is paying Romney's way to the National Convention.

reply to post by ArtOfTrance


I know..i just don't understand how everyone gets fooled every 4 years.

Also, i thinks it's a bit telling when Romney says "lets ask our Constitutionalist" like it's a BAD thing!

Like knowing the Constitution and backing it up with your actions and voting record is lame?

That statement certainly backfired.

reply to post by ChaoticOrder


Hey if Paul somehow pulls out an upset, I'll vote for him. But the question is, what are you going to do if he doesn't? You seem to have a lot of faith in a guy who champions the constitution but not a lot of faith in actual constitutional principles themselves.

Oh and one more thing.

A lot of your points are based on fear. Fear of the "enemy". Fear of getting nuked.

And this is a great tactic that is used all the time to gain support. Fear.

They keep us afraid, keep us fearful, so they can pull off these atrocities.

9/11 produced the "patriot" act. Or as i like to call it, the "end of your freedoms act'.


Also, Mitt relates most with the upper class, the enormously wealthy. His ties and allegiances are with them, the 1%.

His problems aren't the problems of the average American trying to make a living. And for that reason alone i question his decision making and priorities.

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

 

Hey if Paul somehow pulls out an upset, I'll vote for him. But the question is, what are you going to do if he doesn't? You seem to have a lot of faith in a guy who champions the constitution but not a lot of faith in actual constitutional principles themselves.

What makes you think he doesn't have faith in actual constitutional principles ?

Can you please give me some facts to back that statement up?

reply to post by dannotz


Well, the belief that elections are shams (unless Ron Paul is elected) and the belief that there's no truth in the idea that elections will hold under-performing politicians somewhat accountable. Those seem to run pretty counter to some basic premises in our constitution. Look no further, there's your proof.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by braindeadconservatives

 

So free market economics is Chinese slave labor!

Alrightie.

If we had "free market economics" as you put it, then everyone and not just the little peoples wages would be dropping. Instead, what we see is the elites power and wealth increasing at the expense of everyone else.

reply to post by Panic2k11

Given that no sect of Christianity comprises a majority of the population, which ones are acceptable for a POTUS candidate to be a member of?

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

 

Hey if Paul somehow pulls out an upset, I'll vote for him. But the question is, what are you going to do if he doesn't?

I'm not going to do a damn thing, because in fact I'm not even American nor am I located in the United States. I'm simply here trying to offer my honest opinion because I believe you finally has a chance to fix your country. However, I highly doubt you guys will take that chance. And if you don't, it's your own damn fault for what ever happens to your country after that.

Well, the belief that elections are shams (unless Ron Paul is elected) and the belief that there's no truth in the idea that elections will hold under-performing politicians somewhat accountable.

They may be "somewhat" accountable, but that doesn't mean they will be accountable enough. And I'm not saying the whole election process is a sham, but a lot of it is rigged imo, and the media does their best to distort the facts. However, this does not mean I go against the constitution, it means the entire corrupt system goes against the constitution.

Respect OP for stating your opinion.

Got one question for you...you said:

Mitt Romney believes that it is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. Believes in a strong military offensive as well as defensive.

doesn't that scare you? Why is it unacceptable? I mean...who the hell you people think you are? Why is it acceptable for America to have it (and they used it for destruction in the past) and Iran not ? I bet it's ok for Israel to have it, right? Was Iran threatening anyone with nukes? So America used nukes to kill countless civilians and it's ok that they should have nukes? THey are the the ones that should decide? On what grounds if you please...

Strong military offensive? If you really support that man...than I'm sad for you.


How come

Originally posted by dannotz
*slaps hand on head*

I just don't get how people don't see what's right in front of them..

im just bewildered

edit on 7-5-2012 by dannotz because: shpelling

1) Never underestimate the human potential for self-deception.
2) The mind can only see what the mind is prepared to see.
3) Belief is a powerful blinding force.

If you were the pilot of a 747 and you are landing your aircraft, would you see the other airplane on the runaway if you look right at it? Maybe, but maybe not. If you expect to see an airstrip that has no airplane on it, that is the what you will see--what you believe you SHOULD see. This is one example given in a book by cognitive psychologists Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris. They detailed this in a 1999 study (so-called the "invisible gorilla" test) which revealed how people can focus so hard on something that they become blind to the unexpected, even when staring right at it. This happen to me last night while look for a lost item, I was look right at it and didn't see. The object was unfamiliar to me, and was therefore invisable.



This dumbfounding study was done a decade ago still many find hard to believe. It revealed that if people are asked to focus on a video of other people passing basketballs, about half of watchers missed a person in a gorilla suit walking in and out of the scene thumping its chest.

Now research delving further into this effect shows that people who know that such a surprising event is likely to occur are no better at noticing other unforeseen events — and may even be worse at noticing them — than others who aren't expecting the unexpected.

1) Belief is a powerful blinding force in more then the phyical world.
2) We should understand that belief can blind us to spiritual realities as well.
3) Indeed, it is the power of belief that occults the Truth and obsures lies.

For example, we might think we can manifest what we want by thinking about it or repeating some mantra. While this may work to some extent, what also happens is our desire for what we want blinds us from appreciating what have. Our desire for a new car may manifest by our effort, but does that work for peace, joy and happiness? By our desire to attain these "things" we place our awareness into a narrow focus (using the left brain to seek after what only the right brain can see, understand, or appreciate). Without awareness, our lives can be a pursuit of material things which may be attainable but bring no last emotional fulfillment. Without this basic insight, our lives lack any real spiritual substance. What we believe has everything to do with this strange pattern of illusion.

Osho said “All is illusion expect the witness.”

Why do we call the world illusory? Let me remind you again: by ‘illusory’ we don’t mean unreal, we mean temporarily real, only for the time being real. Why do we call the outer world unreal? Because it brings only misery and it gives you only projections, ambitions, desires; it never allows you to be really happy, authentically happy. It gives you hope but never fulfils it. It leads you on many journeys but the goal never arrives, hence it is called MAYA, illusion. It deceives you, it is a mirage — it APPEARS to be there, but when you reach there you don’t find anything; and by the time you reach there, your desires are being projected further ahead. It is like the horizon: you go towards it, it goes on receding. You never arrive — you cannot arrive, by its very nature it is not possible, it only appears — it is not there.

If an material object that is unfamiliar can be invisable how much
more so those formless "things" that we look for and desire?

Does this apply to our political views? I think so.

Any reason why Obama deserves a full name and the others don't? Could it be you enjoy playing on the illusion he is a foreigner with mentioning the middle name? (And I'm sure you'll deny it, but everyone knows why you do it).


Willard Mitt Romney, Ronald Ernest Paul, and Barack Hussein Obama (at least spell it right!)


Anyway no idea why you want ANOTHER foreign war. I've never understood why you Americans don't try help start up a new party/vote third party. It'd give you more choice than just 2 muppets every time. I mean sure here in Australia we have 2 major parties, but at least the minor parties get seats in parliament and theoretically have a chance at becoming PM.