The LORD your GOD (YaHWeH your Elohim)

Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by autowrench

 

autowrench is a deceived fool,

PLEASE don't take a word he says seriously, ANYBODY,

you have been WARNED!

He utters blasphemy against the Most High without thinking twice!

Who's side do you think he's on?!

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edit on 5/5/2012 by Iason321 because: (no reason given)

I think he is on god's side but he knows that some of the view of the bible is not the True source of everything. God do always make sense. If the bible is contradictory then there is cleraly something wrong with the information in it. To bad that I have been shown thru synchronicity that part of the bible is true or I could just not have to care about that religon at all. But then some part of the bible is increadably blasphemy against my nicer view of god. I wonder what he will have an easier time to relate to. The ones who belive in the bible that makes him out to be an asshole who should be feared or the ones who want to be apart of him in harmony with everything he has created and demands that higher ideals should always be met.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by SisyphusRide

 

I have my own God its personal to me

we that's just selfish man I wanna know more...

you seem like the kind of Christian I can get along with.
peace dude and Rock on.

thanks man... I have assimilated some of their values (the best parts) but all in all I am just an American... the definition of a true non-conformist... but Jesus totally rocks! Heavy Metal all the way he is...

PS I was weened on the classics bro... assimilated it all. I have 7 that came before me and I lost a brother so that makes me the 7th now

Originally posted by apushforenlightment
I think he is on god's side but he knows that some of the view of the bible is not the True source of everything. God do always make sense. If the bible is contradictory then there is cleraly something wrong with the information in it.

Jesus is the word of God, very simple, not complex at all.

Jesus is the best part...

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by SisyphusRide

 

Man I hope you didn't squish a bee dude

bees give us fruit to eat.

Oh and Iam not evil fella, it's just I have had run ins with the OP before, he really needs to study the bible more and try to understand it, he is a born again christian of 2 years and speaks like he is the mouthpiece of God while he has threatened people (with hell) and that is a pet hate of mine because I do not believe in hell it's like the bogeyman.
He is everything I don't like about Christianity because he misses the point of it.
Iam not going to stand by and let him get away with it, you may see it as trolling but I see it as just calling him out on what he says in the hope he may realize he is in the wrong.

Like someone posted before

And here's one for you OP. Proverbs 16:18
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Preaching is fine as long as it carries a good message to all but his form of preaching preys on the vulnerable.
I just think he needs to grow up a little and realize that he may be wrong about things.
I like your idea that you only try to convert people to heavy metal

Post above proves my point.

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Is it ok to convert with Creed? Creed - Higher

To bad that this will probably not be popular here since the song seem to be about Astral Projection.

Originally posted by Iason321
YaHWeH your Elohim

The above is an oxymoron. The singular name Yahweh (the name of a single "god") isn't quite the same as the plural noun Elohim (meaning gods). Although there are those that will try to say they are the same.

In English-speaking bibles, a singular "god" said "let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image".

In the Hebrew bible, plural gods (Elohim) said "let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image".


I think there were slight mistakes when translating the Hebrew bible. But the Hebrew bible makes more sense than the English bible where a singular "god" is talking to multiples of himself.

Originally posted by SisyphusRide
obviously alot of people believe in monsters and werewolves and flying spaghetti!?!

And if you take the bible literally without any thought, then you believe in giant flying rolls, flying pillars, flying furnaces, and flying chariots.

We know none of those things fly. But we do know that spacecraft fly. That's how the gods and angels ascended and descended from the heavens (sky).

For instance, in Exodus when "god" descends from the sky and lands, there was great smoke and fire associated with his landing, and the ground quaked.

And then in Exodus 19:12, "god" told Moses:

And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, "Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death."

Other bibles have removed "mount" and replaced it with "mountain". How do you go into a mountain? Normally, we go onto mountains. How do you make a perimeter or border around a mountain? What part of the dirt or grass does a mountain end and begin? Why would "god" kill people for touching the border or edge of a mountain?

Because that's not how the bible was supposed to be interpreted. The King James bible uses the word "mount" for a reason. A mount is a means of conveyance. In this case, "god" descended from the sky in his mount, told Moses to make a perimeter around the mount, and anyone that touched the mount would die.

A more literal translation would be that "god" descended from the sky in his spacecraft, told Moses to make a perimeter around the spacecraft and to not let anyone touch the spacecraft or they would die, probably from radiation or heat related to the propulsion of the spacecraft.

Just as our space shuttle emits smoke and fire, and also makes the ground quake when it lifts off. Furthermore, you also cannot walk up to the space shuttle when it's sitting on the launch pad and touch it because you would also likely be killed from the heat of what's being burned:




I hope that the above teaches some "christians" that their "god", Jesus, and the angels, were all physical beings who flew in physical craft. And I'll leave you with this:

In John 18:36, Jesus himself said:

"My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But my kingdom is from another place."

Where and what other place could Jesus' kingdom possibly be? Christians will say "heaven" (the sky), but what's in the heavens/sky? Other stars and other.......planets.

Thank you. (cue applause)

reply to post by apushforenlightment


excellent song!

though I always thought and will still claim in front of my peers that they are weak!

see you can't be soft in the Metal community...

Creed is pretty good though I have to admit, even though they are Canadians... that somehow makes it all the more powerful.

they're some godless sons a ******* up there

Originally posted by apushforenlightment
To bad that this will probably not be popular here since the song seem to be about Astral Projection.

"can you take me higher... to a place where blind men see"

God is in love though is he singing about a woman or is he singing to Jesus?

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their other songs will shed some light on that answer...

Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

There you go again putting words I did not speak into my mouth,

The tongue really is full of venom and poison,

Jesus sure knows what He's talking about!

So do buddha and many others. God sends what he think is needed to evolve this place to heaven in his timeline not what man thru the bible think is needed and wants. But some people do not want to see the whole picture but that is those peoples choice.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by Iason321

 

I think you are Revelationgeneration in disguise because you both have the same bio.

I agree, and even brought this up once before, but nothing came of it. They certainly sound like they are in the same cult, don't they? He can warn away, that don't scare me any. I was handling his type before he was even born.

Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

The tongue really is full of venom and poison...

You would certainly know all about a venomous tongue, wouldn't you? Your hatred shows real good on you.

Jesus sure knows what He's talking about!

How would YOU know what he said, you were not there.

reply to post by autowrench


Words, words, words, all I see is words, but no meaning.

Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher, all is vanity!!!

reply to post by apushforenlightment

I think he is on god's side but he knows that some of the view of the bible is not the True source of everything. God do always make sense.

Right on. I am always on the side of Good, and those Avatars that represent Good in humankind. I know where the real God and Goddess, Divine Father and Mother lives, and it is not "out there!" It is "In Here."
I am dead set against all cult behavior, like the OP shows in every post, and try my legal best to educate everyone on the truth of the Biblical Tests. That they are NOT, the last word on Truth, no way, no how. What I posted was real history, real information, all one needs do it read it and know the truth. And the Truth shall set you Free.

Originally posted by SisyphusRide

Originally posted by apushforenlightment
To bad that this will probably not be popular here since the song seem to be about Astral Projection.

"can you take me higher... to a place where blind men see"

God is in love though is he singing about a woman or is he singing to Jesus?

------------

their other songs will shed some light on that answer...

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From my point of view this is about the person needing to get realesed from the prison of ego/"the dream" and recive the holy spirit, because he cannot take this place anymore. I do not equal Jesus and the spirit (maybe should be called Christ). People can call for the spirit without knowing any names. It is not you mind that is really calling. It is your soul that is calling and you calling by wanting and needing Divinity. Not that you need power or want it but that you need to feel the devine and want to be harmonious and loving to the world around you. And being harmoious and loving is hard in todays society.

reply to post by EarthCitizen23
hmmmmmmmmm.
well, I am still unable to discern the purpose of this thread,
so,,
could someone point me to a forum where Christians, Muslims and assorted "Only We Got D' Truth" are not allowed to Beat Bibles and Sacred Texts across Unbelievers Heads...

I am all for discussion of beliefs,,]
but it would be nice to understand a threads main purpose , intent, or hell,, a coherent thought on something other than,,, God said so,,, so there,,, shut up and believe the Sacred Words,,, saith the Lord Da God.

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
I think there were slight mistakes when translating the Hebrew bible. But the Hebrew bible makes more sense than the English bible where a singular "god" is talking to multiples of himself.

that's all good... God is God, I like having three perspectives of it... put God in different situations and mindsets to address certain situations.

no need to argue about it I suppose or even debate it

anywhere I can get my hands on a Jewish version but in English... where Judaism gives its perspective?

I hope it's not the NIV

reply to post by apushforenlightment

the lyrics imo are clearly a prayer, and possibly because he's cast doubt? he uses the words "his grace" and "Heaven save me"

ect ect... this is the subversive tactics used in lyric writing business, not really subversive but it makes one think.

see the chicks like this song for a reason... it is a love song afterall

"something left for you and me" ...is not necessarily addressed to the ladies though.

reply to post by EarthCitizen23

if some can not contemplate nor fathom the esoteric, non-square, out of box discussion happening in this topic should they even be posting in it let alone reading into it?

I would bet my bottom dollar some of these squares are some of the same people hitting the "report post/topic" tab?

thankfully we are in the "off-topic" below top secret discussion section of the website

complaints have nothing to offer except the smell of capitulation...

Here are some nice lyrics.....



Here are some more...



She is always there for her children.

Yahweh = False Name made by the Sanhedrin, and Jewish rabbis by Judaism of the Mishnah

en.wikipedia.org...

יה = Yahh Strong's #3050

יהוא = Yehuw Stong's #3058, א should not be silent but sound as 'ahh' . This could be also pronoucned as Yahuwah. Massoretic vowel pointing tries to slowly removed the sacred name here.

So יה (Yah) + וה (wah) = YaHuWaH. Hebrew grammar adds 1 syllable for 2 roots to make it 3 Syllable total. YaHWeH is Wrong.

יהוה = Yehovah Strong's #3068. Massoretic vowel pointing here in full removing the sound of the sacred name. Should be Yahuwah.

Its Yahuwah our Heavenly Father our Alahym(means mighty one). Yahuwshuwah the Messiah or haMachiyach.

the Lord is a false pagan name and so is Yahweh which means Jupiter.

en.wikipedia.org...

Baal = Lord
www.blueletterbible.org...

Ok, so from all the posts in this thread, i see everyone bitching because the OP didn't drop the book and chapter. What does it matter to people who do not believe anyway? Not like they need to know all that info.