Mexico is out of control

How is this considered a domestic issue and not a full blown civil war?
If Mexico were a country in the Middle East, this would merit UN intervention.
The hypocrisy is ridiculous.

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The bodies of 23 people were found hanging from a bridge or decapitated and dumped near city hall Friday in the border city of Nuevo Laredo, where drug cartels are fighting a bloody and escalating turf war. Authorities found nine of the victims, including four women, hanging from an overpass leading to a main highway, said a Tamaulipas state official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to provide information on the case. Hours later, police found 14 human heads inside coolers outside city hall along with a threatening note. The 14 bodies were found in black plastic bags inside a car abandoned near an international bridge, the official said. The official didn't release the contents of the note, or give a motive for th Read more: www.foxnews.com...[ /ex]

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Because its not the middle east or Africa should NOT be a reason why the UN doesn't step in.

this shows that the UN not only expects its largest contribution to be from the US, but that it expects the US to take care of things on this side of the water.

The UN is useless.

Weird that you posted this. I was listening to radio earlier today. Thought I heard something about almost 50,000 people being killed, perhaps within the last year or so? Sorry I can't elaborate, came in on the end of the convo, but you info was part of it

ETA here, from Fox News

UN statement from 2011

She acknowledged the that the magnitude of the human rights challenges and violence facing Mexico were enormous, saying some of them had their root causes across Mexico''s borders. “I call on the United States of America, reported to be the main consumer of drugs and supplier of guns in and out of Mexico, to do more to help this country be safe,” said Ms. Pillay.

www.un.org...

Central America has it worse?

says US General

reply to post by Juggernog


Yea been watching this and kinda worried because I have had to move to yuma recently for work. About three days ago the border patrol seized over 200,000 $ worth of weed off of like 18 people. It amazes me how so little is said internationally about the killings. The UN has interceeded in conflicts with much lower death tolls. To me these people are worse than terrorist, At least terrorist normally fight for a ideolgy. With these people its all for the money.

So...perhaps "what happens in mexico/central america stays in mexico/central america"???

The UN wanted the Trayvon Martin case looked into for cryin out loud! Why no UN inquiry into the Secret Service conduct?

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Seriously, I live 2 hours from Laredo. I used to go there at least twice a month to hang out and shop but that was over a decade ago, it was safe and friendly back then.
Its dis-heartening that this savagery has came to Laredo.

Ill also add that the crime to immigrant ratio in the city that I am in has risen considerably but maybe that would be "insensitive"

I see this as ANOTHER reason among MANY to NEVER allow our RIGHTS to own firearms to be taken away leaving us DEFENSELESS in this SICK world. Out of control degenerates in this world will NEVER disappear. And they exist EVERYWHERE waiting their next prey...

...firearms are the ONLY things that can be used to protect ourselves from these types of MONSTERS that exist everywhere...

Hooray for the 2nd Amendment in America.

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So how do you think UN intervention will solve the violence in Mexico?

Has the UN ever been successful in intervening in other;s countries problems?

nuevo laredo is directly across the border of texas. the cartels are holding the mexican people hostage, it really is out of control and has been for quite some time now! i definitely think something should be done, perhaps a coalition of the un, us and mexican armies?

Originally posted by jam321
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So how do you think UN intervention will solve the violence in Mexico?

Has the UN ever been successful in intervening in other;s countries problems?

I dont, hence the point of the thread.
Why does the international community ignore THE most dangerous country in the world, ( Juarez Mexico) has earned the title of the most dangerous city in the world for a few years in a row but they still harass countries that are/were fighting civil wars... ie Egypt, Libya and now Syria?

perhaps a coalition of the un, us and mexican armies?

The Mexican army is on the take and have been for years. The largest drug cartel in Mexico ( The Los Zetas) were former Mexican Military that went crooked.


Wiki

Etymology The group's name Los Zetas is given after its first commander, Arturo Guzmán Decena, whose Federal Judicial Police radio code was "Z1",[17] a code given to high-ranking officers.[18][19][20] The radio code for Commanding Federal Judicial Police Officers in México was "Y" and are nicknamed Yankees, for Federal Judicial Police in charge of a city the radio code was "Z," and thus they were nicknamed as the letter in Spanish, "Zetas." [edit]Foundation After Osiel Cárdenas Guillén took full control of the Gulf Cartel in 1999, he found himself in a violent turf war. In order to keep his organization and leadership, Cárdenas sought out Arturo Guzmán Decena, a retired Army lieutenant who lured more than 30 army deserters of the Mexican Army's elite Grupo Aeromóvil de Fuerzas Especiales (GAFE) to become his personal bodyguards, and later, as his mercenary wing.[21] These Army deserters were enticed with salaries much higher than those of the Mexican Army.[22] Cárdenas' goal was to protect himself from rival drug cartels and from the Mexican military.[23][24][25]

Originally posted by conspiracy nut
nuevo laredo is directly across the border of texas. the cartels are holding the mexican people hostage, it really is out of control and has been for quite some time now! i definitely think something should be done, perhaps a coalition of the un(NATO), us(NATO) and mexican armies who?

At some point Mexico will collapse under the weight of the cartels, why are we giving them guns again? Because at some point the US will have to respond with a "humanitarian" Mission of some kind, But the economy can't support it...

So whats the best solution Tada "North American Union"

Create the Problem, Supply the solution.

If the economy gets dire enough people might welcome it...

reply to post by Juggernog

The Mexican army is on the take and have been for years. The largest drug cartel in Mexico ( The Los Zetas) were former Mexican Military that went crooked.

Yea, I know this and they were also trained by the US military. The questions were just out of curiosity. IMO, the US is already involved. They give Mexico money, have drones flying over Mexico, and possibly US troops on the ground

And that isn't counting all the DEA agents over there.

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Star for you my friend. The "Amero" seems to be just around the corner.

reply to post by Juggernog


I think the US has a role to play in this.

1) The Us government gave a large amount of weponary to Mexican drug cartels

2) The US buys most of the illegal substances produced in Mexico.

3) The US tries its best to regulate international and national law. Especially regarding substance use and production. How much power would these cartels have if production was in the hands of the government instead

reply to post by Juggernog


Like most issues, follow the money and you have your answer. Wachovia Bank caught laundering billions of mexican drug money. CIA making money from selling arms to mexican scumbags. Too many financial interests in the US relying on Mexico as a conduit for coc aine from South America.

The only way this violence will end if the war on drugs comes to an end. Decrimanlize or legalise all drugs - refer LEAP or similar organizations if you need to be convinced of this.

Unfortunately, I can't see it happening any time soon. The illegal drug industry is MASSIVE.


Peace Out - My heart goes out to those in Mexico caught up in this BS.

Originally posted by HangTheTraitors
I see this as ANOTHER reason among MANY to NEVER allow our RIGHTS to own firearms to be taken away leaving us DEFENSELESS in this SICK world. Out of control degenerates in this world will NEVER disappear. And they exist EVERYWHERE waiting their next prey...

...firearms are the ONLY things that can be used to protect ourselves from these types of MONSTERS that exist everywhere...

Hooray for the 2nd Amendment in America.

You don't believe those bodies found were all unarmed "civilians" ravaged by the cartel monsters do you? Very few civilians get caught in the crossfire of this Drug War and you can be fairly certain those found hanging from the bridge were soldiers and players involved in cartel activity. We already know US government agencies were supplying arms to the cartels and the largest "infiltrator" cartel, The Zetas, were trained by the CIA.

Big Bankers and other big money interests are fueling all of this while these street-level players are making "peanuts" compared to the overall stakes involved. The big money is made after the drugs cross the border and again US government agencies and corrupt officials are helping get the goods to the clients up north.

If there was real interest in solving any of this you would be seeing major drug busts occurring up north and not just street arrests. You would also be hearing about well-known US "families" and their lackeys being arrested, but there is more interest in maintaining the status quo - US drug buyers paying hugely inflated prices for an in-demand commodity on the drug war-created black market lining the pockets of US big-money players and "too-big-to-fail" banks. The Drug War is helping keep the global economy from crashing world-wide.

But you are correct. Part of this whole scam has been staged in an attempt to take away your guns and for other insidious little plots.

In order to put an end to the all of this Drug War insanity some concessions will have to be made. An overwhelming percentage of people want cannabis, which has proven to be fairly innocuous, benign, and even beneficial. With that concession given to "the people" the rest of the drug war could become manageable and the huge percentage of "regular folks" removed from the criminal trappings of all of this. Of course the powers behind all this don't really want to put an end to this, not yet at least.

Billions are being given to fight the US Drug War to nations the US wishes to politically influence and control. Little is done to fight the real "war" on dangerous substances but the media gets to see pot fields get burned away as proof there are efforts being made. Many of those pot fields are merely acres of industrial-grade hemp planted for the "drug warriors" to put on their show to justify the billions being spent and as a subterfuge to let actual dangerous activities flourish. This is done for political purposes and to support an off-the-books underground economy that governmental agencies make use of to fund black operations and rebel insurgencies. Then it gets worse than that.

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The Military/ NATO only steps in when the country has resources to steal. That and to set up it's Nazi World Order policies/Agenda in countries which refuse to play ball.

It's kind of obvious really.

50.000 people killed in mexico since 2006. Thats about 10.000 less than the us, which averages about 10.000 dead a year due to gun violence, which isnt all that much considering the size of the population and fact that weapons are widely avaiable.