I Met a Rothschild Today

I was once tasked to provide security for a member of this family who turned out to be a very frail, and charming eldererly lady. Slightly offtopic I once guarded an individual who has been identified by many as the antichrist, this person was also polite and humble.

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Yeah --- thanks for the thread. I've been trying to understand what it really means to forgive for a while now.

It's important to be compassionate but to what extent?

I'm not doubting you met a Rothschild, but I just have a hard time putting myself in your shoes in that situation.

"Call your uncle, tell him to stop funding bad things that hurt the planet and people."

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If I could ever have the privilege of interviewing these so-called "elites", I would just ask them what goes through their mind every time they open their mouths or do something.

I am curious as to how their minds work. I am curious as to why the rest of us "fear" these "elites".

Honestly, I think that most of us have made the mistake of putting such people on pedestals.

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I would like to know why you felt sorry for this woman. Was it because you used to hate her kind for no reason other than they were Rothschild's, or did she say something that made you pity her? You never did explain your self here.

I agree 100% though that we need to learn to forgive people and get ourselves to grow up. A lot. But you can't just put blanket forgiveness over everything and everybody. There are some circumstances and people where forgiveness simply doesn't work. The act has to be reciprocal in my opinion. The person being forgiven needs to "get it". ( Trust me....there are people out there who don't) They need to understand what someone forgiving them means. Otherwise, when you go up and forgive someone of something you get a dumb, blank stare in return. What does that accomplish other than the fact that it makes YOU feel good?

If they got nothing from it, how are they going to pay it forward from their end and keep the cycle going? Isn't that, after all, how we ALL advance as people? Being on the same page like that?

I think it's kind of neat that someone on this board actually met a Rothschild, but you never did go into detail about WHY you feel the way you do. You just started going off on different tangents like numbers and spirits. You started to derail your own train.

I couldn't imagine having that last name.

Forgiveness is definitely a rare and respectable virtue. No ill judgement should ever be harbored based on anything as general as a name or label. Those are just words.

That being said, I don't believe forgiveness is universally acceptable. Actions speak louder than words, and those that commit evil when they know better are worthy of spite in my book.

Everything is conditional.

Rothschilds are as equal as anyone else in my book, meditating and trying to help raise awareness for everyone, no divisions here.

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Here's a test you can use on yourself.. but it was first ask to me personally by the Lord himself on Christmas 10 years ago....

As I was riding in the car going shopping or something, when I first herd it, tears came to my eyes knowing I had to forgive.

"(insert my real name)...do you have any enemies?"

it riveted me to my seat for no less than 20mins.. I had to search my heart and think about those that wronged me for whatever reason..I knew that if I answered yes, it wouldn't be well with my soul since I knew the scripture that states.. "Love your enemies and pray for those that wrongly accuse you so that you will be called a Child of God"

Through the 100's of lies that were told about me which in-turn kept me from my children, I SO wanted revenge.. however..

I replied.."No Lord, I have none"... trust me.......it took A LOT of humbleness and courage to say that .. and mean it.

and this is something that has gone on for 10years so far...every year, he asks "do you have any enemies" and I must reply.. "no Lord, I have none"...even in tears.

As much as Jesus heart was broken over the Romans occupying his beloved city & people, he knew that forgiveness was the only answer and demonstrated it to the servant of the high priest's ear, which he healed on the spot, from Peter's sword.

it's not my intention to turn this into a 'Jesus/Christianity" thread.. but I wanted to use an example.

those that are born into such royalty, don't have much of a choice and due to their environments they lived/living in ....I believe there are some that know but, they can never leave to tell the truth.

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i applaud you for your call for compassion
i wish i could share in your optimism (at least, that's what i read) about awakening.
i can't, if i witness what's happening over here (i'm somewhere in europe, the part that is still wealthy and thus complains about everything).

One example... today a radical "muslim" (he's not really supported by most muslims here) was convicted for... using words. These words were dreadful, I despise every single syllable, but in my view you don't solve an issue by silencing those who utter words you don't like.

but hey, I found comfort in your post so: thank you!

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And considering that we find out that God's mark and Seal is the sabbath, it seems almost deliberate in the hate that is generally targeted at the Jews....that anyone preaching in the end days to keep the Sabbath day to receive God's seal would just be lam-bastard and associated with a hated sect. A deliberate ploy me-thinks to place 'jews' into positions of power as frontmen.

God's Seal
Components of a seal (think royal seal) to give something authority, must contain:
- Their name
- Their Title
- The area over which they are authorized to rule, that is, their dominion

What is God's seal?
- Name: Lord
- Title: Creator
- Dominion: The heavens, the earth, the sea and everything that is in them

Where do we find God's seal given?
In the giving of the 4th commandant to keep the Sabbath

Exodus 20:11 'For in six days the LORD (Name) made (Title: creator/maker) heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is (dominion), and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."
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God's mark
source: www.biblicalproportions.com...

Ezekiel 20:12
Moreover also I gave [5414] them my sabbaths, [7676] to be a sign [0226] between me and them, that they might know [3045] that I [am] the LORD [3068] that sanctify [6942] them.

Ezekiel 20:20
And hallow [6942] my sabbaths; [7676] and they shall be a sign [0226] between me and you, that ye may know [3045] that I [am] the LORD [3068] your God. [0430]

Exodus 31:17 It is a sign (Hebrew - 'Owth') between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed

What is the word meaning of this strongs #0226 word

SIGN: Hebrew: 'owth', meaning - sign, token, ensign, mark, a distinguishing mark, signal, banner, remembrance
classic.net.bible.org...
www.blueletterbible.org...
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Is it really surprising that it came done to this...that basically all Christianity keep Sunday, a commandment of man against God's Divine Law....God is going to test our allegiance to Him through obedience to His commands that shows our love and faith for Him

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Such a refreshing read here on ATS...

S&F buddy...

Although I know this is not a popular book to quote, this one verse has always got me thinking:

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Matthew 5:44

Surely, the truth is... if everybody loved their enemies... eventually, there would be no enemies?

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you have a good heart, as i believe everyone does inside somewhere. stories like this remind me of the beautiful spirit mankind really does have.

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Such a refreshing read here on ATS...

S&F buddy...

Although I know this is not a popular book to quote, this one verse has always got me thinking:

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Matthew 5:44

Surely, the truth is... if everybody loved their enemies... eventually, there would be no enemies?

funny how peace works aint it?

Found this recently and keep going back to it (how true):

Say you’re standing in line at the Post office and someone accidentally steps on your toe. They quickly move back and say “Sorry!” and you say “No problem”. It’s over and quickly forgotten. But what if they say “Sorry!” and then continue to stand on your toe? Are you still going to say No problem?

What exactly is forgiveness? Is it condoning the other person’s behavior? Denying your own pain so another person can feel better? Letting another off the hook, and then carrying their shame for them? Is it as simple as letting go of a balloon that floats away into the atmosphere? I think it is much more complex than that.

Forgiveness is a huge buzzword these days. Everyone says you should do it. Oprah says you should do it. Doctors say you’ll be healthier if you do it. Jesus did it on the cross. Stanford University even has a “Forgiveness Project”, where researchers say it is a skill that can be learned, a decision you simply make. But I don’t see it as a decision any more than falling in love is a decision.

Forgiveness is a spontaneous shift in the heart, and like love, it can’t be forced. It is an unwritten contract between two souls. A door of genuine understanding and remorse must be opened before you can cross the threshold of forgiveness. You can’t bang that door down yourself. In other words, forgiveness is not a one-way street.

To me there is nothing worse than an empty apology. I remember on one occasion that I actually got my mother to show up for therapy, my therapist asked if she could apologize for lying to me, because her lies had affected my life and damaged my trust. The best she could muster up was an indignant, “I’m sorry you see it that way.” But she wasn’t sorry, and therefore no shift could take place on either side.

A forced forgiveness serves no one. Remember when you were a little kid, fighting with your sister, and your mom forced you to hug and say sorry, but behind her back you were sticking your tongues out at each other? I recently read about a woman who at 15 had been raped by her Sunday school teacher. Her pastor told her that she had to forgive him, it was the Christian thing to do. So she went to the rapist/Sunday school teacher and forgave him. And he would later rape her again. So what good did forgiving do? It wasn’t true forgiveness, therefore nothing changed, and no one was healed.

On the other hand, when a person is sincere in opening that door, you feel it in your soul and it changes you. True forgiveness is grace in action. I know because I have experienced this.

In 1995, after my house burned down and I lost everything, my best friend dumped me. I needed her more than ever, but she turned her back and never told me why. I was beyond devastated. Losing my home and all my possessions was nothing compared to losing my best friend. It was a hurt that took years, and much therapy, to get over. Eleven years later we bumped into each other in a record store. She seemed so happy to see me, while I was ambivalent. She hugged me with real feeling, and asked if I would meet her that week to talk, and I agreed.

We met at a Starbucks. As soon as I sat down, she took my hand, looked me right in the eye, and said tearfully, “I love you.” She squeezed my hand hard, not bothering to wipe away the tears rolling down her cheeks “and I have missed you in my life, so much. I am so sorry for the way I treated you. I don’t know why I acted that way back then, I guess I was afraid. Afraid of what was happening to you, and how it was affecting me. If you can forgive me, I really want another chance to be in your life, as the person I am now.” I felt the instant shift in my heart. Forgiveness. It wasn’t hard to do, because she opened the door. I knew her life had been turned upside down in the years that had passed. Her marriage fell apart, her career ended. Her heart had been broken open, and I was able to get in. That was four years ago and our friendship is still going strong.

What is forgiveness? I don’t know that I could encapsulate it into simple words. Like love, I know it when I feel it. When it happens, it is a beautiful miracle, like a butterfly landing on my shoulder. But I think it is a different experience for each person.

Forgiveness

I say innocent till proven guilty and not every rothshild or rockefeller is an evil scum. Some are and some are not. Only a thorough digging and investigation would reveal the necessary details. More than anything it is a capitalist conspiracy brought about by private central banking and an overall private economy.

You would amazed how simple things like "private economy", "mixed economy" and "public economy" confuse the hell out of most people who have not lived in europe the last 50 years. I am fortunate enough to have lived both in europe and america and can compare.

I am sure the billionares and trillionares guard this great capitalist conspiracy BUT look at all those evil wall street speculators who have never lifted a finger to do a real job, or those in government that take bribes to fulfill covert agendas. Everyone of those folks is a willing accomplice.

Just reading all the Ron Paul posts here leaves me dumbfounded at how so many people want everything to be private and for-profit. They want a tiny government which means less regulations, more pollution, lower wages for the workers, no union benefits, and ultimately no real voice.

The future should behold mixed economies and justice for all. Those that are proven guilty should be punished accordingly. I don't care if you are super-rich, an illuminati member, president of the country, or satan himself.

Excellent thread fella, i will take a lot of guidance from it, wise words. But...........

i can understand forgiving people. but for how long do we forgive them if they keep on doing it???
doesn't it just make you an easy target for the millions of people who would gladly take advantage of you?
we can mess with this guy/woman/family/religious group/race/countrys inhabitants because theyre a forgiving bunch.

they'll forgive us and get on with their lives after we've destroyed their economy, plunged their country into recession, made them lose their job, take their house and force them into a never ending spiral of debt.

i'm all for forgiveness, rising above this pool of turd we are at the moment festering in and taking life as we know it to another level, but we need the 'bad guys' (banks, corporations and their governments) to play the game too.

i do hope the change comes soon.

For God's sake! Enough! To forgive is truly divine. I am certain this is the key. Our reality, God, if you will, is looking into our hearts and waiting to see if a critical mass is ready to make it to the next level. HE is waiting to see if we can handle the truth and waiting to see our collective response. Will we react like the idiot villagers in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, who when presented with evidence that they had found a witch, scream "Burn Her! She's a witch!"

Or...Will we forgive?

This little story made me slightly emotional. I can relate in that the capacity for forgiveness seems almost impossible. It made me happy to read that someone came upon it and accepted it and could do it. Thank you for sharing that.

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She must have been cute to touch your heart like that (or you must have been afraid she was there to give you a "message"). No, we can't hate people, just have to like them enough to realize that they are living the life they know and were brought up in. Everyone gets touched by things sometimes, and if she's cute - all the better! Did you get her phone number? Tell us more tell us more.

op= forgiveness....the highest form of function in this creation....excellent thread
when one has the spiritual vision, one is invincible

OP, aint you the guy that served time for selling narcotics? Sure you made a thread about that....tu tut

They are not human - or at the very least they are overshadowed by demonic entities - I feel no compunction to forgive any of them , they create the civil wars that cause mass famine in Africa - they fund the terrorists then set thier pentagon against them , they put CCTV camera's in my street etc etc

Forgive them ? They would probably laugh at our human weakness if we did .