Alex Jones says TAP WATER causes IQ reduction of 20 points

HA... he says that because ProPur Water Filtration helps feed his belly. Of course, he is going to make up some bologna story or supposed scientific discovery that benefits one of his advertisers.
www.infowarsshop.com...

Alex Jones preys on weak minds!!!

HA!!! I didnt watch the video until after i posted this reply...

Originally posted by 1825114
just another example of this "food4thought" person trying to discredit alex with inflammatory, misleading, and false thread titles and hoax videos. He posts the same garbage over and over...

go to his profile and look at the threads he's started. of those 15, how many are attacking alex jones based on nothing but lies and deliberate out-of-context and misleading editing?

threads started by "food4thought"

- Alex Jones says TAP WATER causes IQ reduction of 20 points

-Alex Jones calls Noam Chomsky "a low-grade moron"

-Alex Jones says illegal aliens can KILL PEOPLE legally

-Alex Jones says Aztec human sacrifice is coming to America

-Alex Jones - THE KEVIN TRUDEAU CONNECTION

-42 STUPID Alex Jones PREDICTIONS

-Alex Jones in 1998: "[snip] Jesus" - today he pretends to believe

-123 Alex Jones Lies

-Alex Jones is a GLOBALIST..?

-45 Failed Alex Jones Predictions

-Alex Jones DRUNK With George Bush's Daughters

-BILL CLINTON Supports Alex Jones..!

-New documentary suggests Alex Jones works for the government, connects him to Clinton, Bush and more

so how many other accounts does/has this person had?

edit on 4-5-2012 by 1825114 because: (no reason given)

I'm going to quote the OP's thread history again so people can this. He's using ATS and ATS members who also hate him to bash Alex Jones.

Preys on weak minds? Seriously? Its talk like that that makes him keep actual documents and evidence handy.

Its like someone showing you your dog that you thought was dead, and you keep saying thats not my dog...

Hilter use it on the jew in world war 2 it so that they would become submissive

reply to post by foood4thought


doh! me drink tap water every day! me have no problem! ugah!

Since the damage from all these chemicals (there's a lot of stuff that's peed into the public water supply that is not removed in the 'filtration' process; chances are you're drinking residual birth control pills, antibiotics, not to mention industrial waste and pesticides) is cumulative, I think drinking distilled water or reverse osmosis is the way to go. Those of us old enough to remember the 50s know that something is very, very wrong; a stroll through a public place like a mall will prove to you that today's americans are being poisoned.

Originally posted by TomServo
HA... he says that because ProPur Water Filtration helps feed his belly. Of course, he is going to make up some bologna story or supposed scientific discovery that benefits one of his advertisers.
www.infowarsshop.com...

Alex Jones preys on weak minds!!!

HA!!! I didnt watch the video until after i posted this reply...

edit on 4-5-2012 by TomServo because: (no reason given)

edit on 4-5-2012 by TomServo because: (no reason given)

Ah well.
I suppose the only thing you and i have in common are the super Reds.
Hope we stuff Chelsea tomorrow !

reply to post by signalfire

Drinking distilled water long term is not good. Short term use can be beneficial under certain circumstances. I can't remember the circumstances off hand

reply to post by bubbi316


Hitler's scientists studied fluoride estensively......His scientists were some of the best in the world at the time. The USA hired many of them. Germans also used the chemistry of sour kraut. The Roman empire used Cabbage, Odin used Asparagus. The greeks and Romans used rotted sardines (MSG). The English used tea. Every culture for thousands of years seemed to use food chemistry to control their societies.. We even try to get our kids to eat things that calm us so everything runs smoothly.

In small amounts yea it's pretty harmless, but once you start thinking about it you drink it in water daily.
Then you use the same water to cook your food with so it's in that too, then your brushing your teeth twice a day along with using mouthwash daily which has much higher concentrations of fluoride.

You see how it's all starting to add up now?

reply to post by Brandon88


Ions are absorbed through the skin well. Iodine absorbs excellently and so does fluoride. Take a bath, sit in the hot tub, swim in the pool, guess what happens. You don't have to even drink it.

Until there's evidence for 1ppm for either side of the argument then this argument is a stalemate.

Even with that said I have switched to drinking water only from the primo/culligan dispenser at wal-mart. I also only cook with this water also.

Until there's evidence saying that Flouride has ZERO negative effects on the human body then i will continue to not ingest water straight from the tap in any capacity.

Originally posted by mojo2012
Until there's evidence for 1ppm for either side of the argument then this argument is a stalemate.

Even with that said I have switched to drinking water only from the primo/culligan dispenser at wal-mart. I also only cook with this water also.

Until there's evidence saying that Flouride has ZERO negative effects on the human body then i will continue to not ingest water straight from the tap in any capacity.

This argument is NOWHERE near a stalement...

There is the matter of INTENT.

The supposed benefits of flouride in drinking water are TOTAL propaganda.

So those studies (mostly Russian! ) expose what the desired RESULT is supposed to be.

The TAME population... that pretty much accepts ANYTHING.

Greetings fellow ATSers! I'm fairly excited a fluoridation thread popped up as I've just completed a paper for an english class on the controversy of community water fluoridation. I was already familiar with the whole water fluoridation conspiracy before I began writing it but I did have to spend hours researching and digesting fluoridation info from various scholarly sources. Hopefully I can share some of that knowledge

Whenever people make the claim of fluoridation causing a drop in IQ level, they always cite the series of studies conducted in China. Yes these studies were conducted by professionals, but there is a lot of problems with the experiments themselves and presentation of data including
- They don't mention the type of fluoride used (different places use different fluoride compounds in drinking water)
- Lack of major details pertaining to the experimental procedures used
- Did not mention if IQ tests were blinded or not
- Lack of information about testing conditions in general

BUT - Even the National Research Council admits that the consistency of results from all these studies does suggest we need to do further research on fluoride's effects on us because it does appear something might be happening.

I also did some research on fluoride's biological mechanisms and here's what I found. Fluoride compounds do interfere with chemical messengers in the body. They effect our very important G-proteins, phospholipids, and chemicals in the central nervous system. Fluoride interferes with cells metabolic processes. Fluoride causes oxidative stress in our brain by binding to anti-oxidants in our body and it is also thought that fluoride's electronegativity directly causes free radicals. The combination of these effects certainly could lead to some type of cognitive impairment.

Fluorides also modify the efficiency of acetylcholinergic systems which may not alter IQ directly, but it does impair reaction times and visuospatial abilities. Now because IQ tests are time restricted, this could cause a lower IQ score.

Some things that I've found about fluoride studies in general
- Many of them are of poor quality. Poor procedure, documentation, etc. (papers both supporting AND against fluoride)
- A lot of people are really biased on this issue which might 'influence' outcome
- You must also consider WHO is funding these experiments (Colgate? Crest? Aluminum companies? Phosphate industry?) If you were a scientist getting funded by a certain employer, you wouldn't want to do anything to hinder their sales or you're fired.
- Scientific data can be subject to statistical manipulation to make it -appear- fluoride has a certain effect, although raw data suggests otherwise
- There is NOT enough legitimate quality studies on fluoride's biological effects. Period.

One last bit of info I discovered. Ingested fluoride is supposed to work by salivating it onto your teeth to strengthen the enamel. The studies I have looked at suggest systemic (ingested) use of fluoride is a POOR way to get the desired anti-cavity effect. Most of the benefit comes from topical use. Fluoride ion exchange occurs at the surface of the enamel and it also kills of plaque causing bacteria. From a biological standpoint, fluoridating water does not make any sense. Why deal with risks associated with fluoride ingestion when most of the benefit comes from topical use? The benefits of ingested fluoride simply do not outweigh it's risk

I heard that listening to Alex Jones reduces your IQ by 40 points.

Although actually believing what he says requires an IQ under 60 .......

But I may be wrong?

reply to post by AndyMayhew


Yes you probably are wrong

reply to post by avwood


Try reading every article you come across for thirty eight years. You get a lot of good and a lot of bad. I try to balance things and find that a a few cups of coffee or tea a day is good for you. I assume that because coffee and tea originated on fluoride soils that the plant has adapted to make speeds to keep up with the depression caused by fluorides. Cocoa would have the same properties. Trouble is we are accustomed to the balance that is natural in these drinks by making them with fluoridated water we upset the balance. Maybe the people who grew up in areas with high volcanic activity would be more used to fluorides. I study the Plant defense system and also ways plants adjust to the environment in my quest for information about foods effect on people's perception.

In your studies did you find anything about how fluoride interferes with Iodine uptake in the body and at the thyroid? Did fluoride interfere with the acetylcholine receptors? If so, how come nicotine still works? Since fluoride takes the place that Iodine occupies on the thyroid does it mean we would be more susceptible or less susceptible to nuclear Iodine?

reply to post by rickymouse


Yes, I did do some reading on how fluoride interferes with the thyroid's production of hormones. In fact I found a paper that suggested chronic exposure to higher than normal levels of fluoride might even induce hypothyroidism (but this is at high levels, 8+ppm maybe? Cant remember too well). As for the nicotine and nuclear iodine, I honestly don't know, simply haven't looked into those things in particular. I would imagine that fluoride taking the place of iodine in the thyroid would have some type of effect on susceptibility to radiation because iodine is a larger atom than fluorine (the neutral version of the fluoride anion). But because fluoride is an anion, that is also larger than it's neutral parent flourine. I have no idea what effects these different sized atoms would have though, it's just my opinion that because of this it might exhibit different radiation uptake characteristics than iodine.

Originally posted by foood4thought

Originally posted by rickymouse
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How come our government recently reduced the fluoride in water and banned production of fluoridated pesticides.

It wasn't because of a 20 point IQ reduction........

And pesticides have nothing to do with tap water.

Originally posted by rickymouse
Here I'm replying to someone about it lowering intelligence which it does to most people. I don't have to prove what I've learned from thousands of articles.

Yes, you do....... You do have to prove it, with peer-reviewed scientific studies.....

You can't just sit here..... and say you've read "thousands of articles"..... and claim that this is evidence....

If you did that, you would be laughed out of any debate, and laughed out of any scientific establishment.....

There's a reason Alex Jones doesn't debate people very much..... because he's a compulsive liar..... who takes very selective information....... and ignores key science....... and then tries to sell you a water filter......

It's that damn simple.......

I am still waiting for someone to actually post a study which proves any IQ reduction at US levels of fluoride..... as in, 1 part per million........ Instead, I get you saying you don't even need to prove anything, because of your "thousands of articles"...... lol

edit on 3-5-2012 by foood4thought because: (no reason given)

Is your "." key stuck again?

Or does that allow you to remember the thought you just typed, so you can continue forward with a new thought? Must be an IQ thing....

(sic)

It doesn't take AJ to tell you that. It's common knowledge in some circles but AJ has mastered the conspiracy circle and no matter how much tripe he comes out with.. he's harnessed the masses to defend him relentlessly before realising they knew that anyway or could have found it elsewhere. The guy is a snake and he's taking your money. There's a reason he has certificates in advertising. Because advertising is tantamount to manipulation.. follow the trail and wonder aimlessly, why he is still a reckoned voice amongst the grave yards of those who warned us what was coming.

reply to post by Anthropomorphous


Alex Jones does say that listeners should not take his word as fact but do their own research
I would like to see some real evidence that confirms the many accusations thrown his way
Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me