Iranian naval admiral: ‘If needed, we can move to within three miles of New York’

Ummm, no they couldn't They couldn't get within 1000 miles of our coast, and that is not my opinion, I know that for an absolute certainty do to the nature of my past military experience and my current position with the DoD.

I remember the US response to the noisy Australian subs until of course www.abovetopsecret.com... happened.

Not to mention the pretty pictures an Aussie sub took of the props of a US aircraft carrier in the middle of it's battle group.

With a freighter for resupply Iran may be able to get one of it's subs in that close.

Then a missile with EMP. and / or

A missile with bio or chem agents.

Your all dreaming.

Your thinking big and brassy while your opponent thinks of maximum value from smallest delivery footprint.

I am reminded of the Iraqi video where a group of US servicemen are hiding from a sniper waiting for a mega expensive US missile to take out one guy.

Getting a sub in that close to the US coast has been done before, by drug cartels.

As long as you keep thinking along these lines any enemy has the chance to make these sort of attacks just like Germany did in WW2.

If the US attacks Iran you will find out what capabilities Iran has. They have been developing these scenarios for decades. Just remember that a group of PJ wearing Vietnamese kicked your backsides using AK47s and bicycles to deliver amo to captured 105mm cannons.

Good luck!

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Then why all the idle boasting and political rhetoric?

Of course they don't pose a threat.

I am quite good friends with a few Iranians.

One had to leave when the Ayatollah came to power and is more or less fully 'westernised'.
The other's left Iran relatively recently and were / are active in the Iranian pro-democracy movement.

And I know enough of Persian / Iranian history to know that they have been around more or less since the dawn of civilization and have a very rich and proud culture.
Unfortunately after the excesses and injustices of The Shah and his regime they allowed The Mullahs to gain far too much power and influence.
But that is their business and none of either our countries.

Exactly what was your point when asking if I knew anything about Persians?

Originally posted by satron

Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
They will shoot the head off the statue of liberty. Damn.

There's only one solution: Nuke the damn Iranians back to stone age.

Damn, I agree. If they shoot off the head of Lady Liberty, then they should be nuked all the way.

can't we forget about that head and just nuke them?
oh, right, i forgot... we need to fabricate some story before we invade other nations.

Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by Freeborn

 

they don't plan to pose a threat.

they want to be beaten up.

that's their strategy to win the war...be beaten up by a bully.

do you know anything about the Persians?

How about we go ahead and challenge them!

reply to post by muse7


Actually a single exocet (or a pair of exocets) could take out the USS liberty..Don't put all your eggs in one basket. There is no way the Iranian navy would do something like this for many reasons:

1 - They do not have a blue water navy, no way to go the distance
2 - They would lose home base advantage
3 - Those units would be needed to defend the strait of hormuz
4 - The Iranians know how crazy the zionists in the US congress are and will use any excuse to stage a war.
5 - It would give validation to the MSM saying that this is a threat. These would be the headlines: IRANIAN SHIPS ON WAY TO ATTACK NYC; this would be exactly what they would want to start a war with Iran. It does not benefit Iran and it only benefits the zionist traitors in Congress.

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FA-18 is vulnerable to S-400 sam systems. I bet if those were active that pilot would probably eject faster than anything

Cool. New York could use an artificial reef for diving and whatnot.

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Is that what they call the twin towers?

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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Is that what they call the twin towers?

Didn't all that get shipped off to China? I'm not sure what you are referring to.

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Just saying if the Iranians wanted to take out something in NYC they wont do it overtly, it would be a 9.11 style attack, but only in RETALIATION if the USA attacks them.

reply to post by Daedal

The Iranian navy isn't lying when they say that they can get an Iranian Navel vessel within three miles of New york. I'm sure they have navy lifeboats that could get that close sitting on the deck of a freighter. They never said what type of vessel it was going to be. Sounds like Politician talk to me.

Originally posted by zooplancton
as a veteran of the US Navy (USS Jouett CG-29 - RIP), i can guarantee you that iran could not deploy war ships 3 miles off the coast of NY.

15 miles out is international waters, so any closer and they would be trespassing on our property so to speak.
our navy is THE most capable on the planet and there are battle groups everywhere connecting the dots to other battle groups.

there is no way iran could park their ships here unless they were invited. period.

edit on 4/28/2012 by zooplancton because: (no reason given)

I agree totally.

They are free to say whay they want but come on..........

Anybody with any common sense should know this is something they simply can't do.

Possibly a Submarine could get within 3 miles , however , that's a big IF.

2nd.

reply to post by mwood


Except for these guys:

I don't see this happening.
Maybe if Russia joined them in the attack but not alone, no way.
Alone they wouldn't make it even close to 3 miles...maybe 3000.

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
reply to post by LifeInDeath

 

And how would you know this? Have you been to and had top secret clearance to inspect every nation on earth? Sounds like nationalized propaganda to me? Reality is coming...

The naval capabilities of most nations in the world are more or less an open secret. Modern warships are big, REALLY big. Even the smaller warships are objects you just can't miss with satellite surveillance. Subs are a way to be stealthy, sure, but even they need to go into dock and there's only so much you can do to hide an attack submarine that's in port when it's longer than a football field.

If you want to see what the various navies have, there's a lot of sites online that can help you with this. As for the Iranian Navy, they've got less than 20,000 personnel and a handful of ships, none of them terribly advanced and no main capital ships. The U.S. Navy has almost 325,000 personnel and more than 280 ships, including 11 supercarriers (no other nation has even a single supercarrier, though the U.K. is building two) and 3,700 aircraft. Oh, and in most cases the U.S. ships are the most sophisticated in the world of their type.

The Soviet Union back 20+ years ago had an impressive navy, especially their submarine force, but Russia now spends far, far less on their navy than the USSR used to and much of the old fleet has been mothballed and lies rusting or has been sold off. China is starting to 'make waves' with their navy (sorry about the pun), but what they've got now is still not nearly as impressive as either the U.K.'s navy or the French Navy.

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If the Iranian's tried to get that close to New York they would quickly find themselves on the bottom of the ocean.. Their Navy is not that impressive and the US is still considered one of the top Naval forces on the planet... and I'm sure Iran knows it..

It's definitely saber rattling ... it's as if they want to be attacked.

I feel like this is an episode of Dragonball Z.

It's a martial arts cartoon with 96% posturing (posing dramatically in this case), 2% story, 1% character development, 1% fighting.

And a lot of grunting when posing.

Although in this case I really don't want to get to the fighting.

Sure, the Iranians may do a lot of damage, but they don't really want to anger America. We'll be calling for blood if they take down the Stature Of Liberty.

Iran is like the small kid on the playground with the Napoleon complex who talks a big game, but you just laugh at him, stiff arm his face and tell him to # off.