Emergency !!!! Callin All Aliens !!!

reply to post by AlchemicalBinoculars


"Aliens step up to the tectonic plate."


I'm a sucker for the corniest jokes... But in all seriousness... I don't think they need anyone to inform them of how messed up things are down here on Earth. Surely they can detect the radiation at the very least, if not have the means to surveillance the whole planet. So, if and when they decide to "do something", they will! My two cents!

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by Druscilla

 

You said: "I am a Terrestrial Human of average intelligence with many, many, misconceptions about Extraterrestrials."

Any other answer is irrelevant..

edit on 28-4-2012 by AnthraAndromda because: (no reason given)

Nope, but, if that's a confession, I'll take it.

I see, however that your followup posts are full of deflection and excuses though.
Sure, math isn't the only science, but, if you're going to do any other science proper, you need know some math.

The equation i gave you is for finding the Gravitational Potential of any object in space, something one would think of as being of relevance to any space faring culture.

Since you couldn't get something so simple as that, then, WHICH terrestrial science are you a master of then o wise alien super intelligence?

Pick one, and I'll give you something that you would easily be able to solve if indeed you were some wise alien super intelligence.
Besides that, you are totally allowed to tap into your wise alien super-intelligence equivalent of FB, and call on all your other wise alien super intelligences to help you.

I suspect, however, that you are just T. Human, alone, other than being a delusional bored house wife, living in a trailer park, who's only real expertise is making babies.

If picking a science, any real physical science is too difficult for you, I'll give a really very extremely simple question in plain English that super intelligence telepathic aliens would be able to answer in a snap:
Who am I?

If you CAN'T even do that, which I suspect you can't, and won't without some excuse or another, please, tell us o wise and super intelligent alien master, what is it you're any good at?
What is it that you're good for?

Thus, there you go, you have 3 options.
1. Pick a science.
2. Who am I?
3. Is there anything you're good for?

Please note; I've given you a variety of options such that I've yet to ask anything along the lines of 'show me a saucer craft', or divulging any alien secrets.
This should really be simple for you, but, it would seem that you're struggling, and relying on deflections and excuses.
You indicated earlier you could not be debunked, but, I postulate that I've already done so. Still, I give you another chance with the options above.

You've yet to give us anything worthwhile.
If you can't even demonstrate that you're good for ANYTHING, I postulate that you are essentially worthless, except as such that you are simply just a T. Human pretending to be something you are not.
I thus stand by my earlier statement that anyone claiming to be an alien is a fraud until proven otherwise.

reply to post by Druscilla


your equation only makes sense if the forces we give names to like gravity are also named the same on what ever plannet and system they would originate in,and the chances are that each and every intelligent life would name them the same is quite improbable,,so to an alien not of this earth it might as well be gobbledygoop

reply to post by stuthealien


To an alien who's job it is to live on this Planet, and know humanity, like, for instance, trolling around on open public forums like this, you're suggestion holds no validity.

Any Alien who's job it is to know human culture, to be able to effectively communicate with the human culture, would have a tool set of languages, including math as referenced by Earth humans.

Even if their job is to just be an observer, how can one effectively observe if they don't even understand what they are observing?

Not having such basic communication tool set would be equivalent to sending any average single language limited experience human to another culture speaking another language with entirely foreign cultural and social references, and expecting them to be able to communicate and interact effectively.

Further, in regards to any alien not-knowing something posed to them, am I to believe that any alien that could be planted on this planet for whatever purpose wouldn't have some, if only even limited, communication with their alien peers such that help could be asked for?
Aliens are supposed to be telepathic right?
It should then just be a simple exercise of telepathic transmission of any unknown data up to the mothership, or moon base where a reply telepathic answer comes from experts who are indeed in the know about any potential subject.

No. Anyone claiming to be an alien is a fraud, unless they can prove otherwise through simple demonstrations of proficiency with maths and languages as tools of communication, as well as demonstrating understanding and proficiency of complex issues and solutions above and beyond the average human.
Further, they need demonstrate the ability to acquire information they have no knowledge of and identify such correctly through telepathic networking.

In regards to telepathy too, even if there isn't communication with any alien motherships, a telepathic alien would still be able to farm all the human brains on the planet for an answer.
Thus, I still stand.

reply to post by Druscilla


well the average human like the ones that believe the mainstream media,or the crack head, not quite hard to have a higher intelligence then the previously mentioned,are you 100 per cent sure our race is not a genetic splice from aliens and monkeys ,maybe we are the aliens we sure abuse the planet,obviously some of us must have a higher concentration of alien dna and those would be the higher iq of the population,,,just seems more probable in a 0100100100100000011011000110111101110110 type of way or even 0110010100100000011110010110111101110101

now thats how aliens communicate ,, yes it is a message

reply to post by stuthealien


0100100100100000011011000110111101110110 = I Lov
0110010100100000011110010110111101110101 =e You

It's simple binary to ASCII text transcription.

What would it look like if I did that in Russian and said something like; Какие языки вы знаете иностранцев?

You haven't really demonstrated anything outside of the basic human paradigm.

Who cares if we humans are actual alien DNA?
The point is, if there's extra-terrestrial aliens, that have access to saucer craft, telepathy, as well as all the trappings of such outside of the simple human paradigm.

Originally posted by interupt42

I didn't mean we are an ant in the literal sense, but rather that they would be so much more evolved then us that they would take as much interest on us as we do with less evolved life forms such as ants.

So much for the well accepted paradigm of human's superior existence due to their capabilities of love, reason and tax payments.

The OP has originated and developed an amazingly elegant yet simple concept. It overlooks alien credibility. Alien responsibility. Alien morality. The question whether aliens will respond - since they are the only ones with the scio-technology to solve the Fukushima catastrophe according to nuclear scientist Arnie Gundersen - the question whether aliens will respond frames a "documentary by aliens" device.

Sadly, the conclusions may cloud the brilliance of his efforts.

Aliens may not be in a saving mindset.

Originally posted by raggin
Aliens may not be in a saving mindset.

Thats because they never were / are going to save us.

Aliens are fallen angels and can under no circumstances be trusted.

If they really cared, they would have helped us after Roswell.
What have they done? Nothing.

When they show themselves, shoot first, then ask questions.

Whoever says this idea is bad, is an alien and an enemy of this world.

You do know that this forum could be going live right now, on a forum in a far distant planet where aliens get points for who can annoy the most amount of humans on an ATS posting like this one.

Just think, we could be all in one big sick reality game show where the host has just mentioned to the audience that monkey me has just realised that this world is one big brother ant colony game show.

reply to post by Rapha


I believe fantasy alien stories at their best serve the same function for us that fairy tales and mythology formerly did. The current popularity of aliens, particularly in films, suggests that popular culture, at least, isn't getting what it wants from realism. The nineteenth century was the golden age of realistic fiction. The twentieth century may be the golden age of fantasy.

This century highlights the [non] alien.

I think the unconscious appeal of a the alien story, for instance, lies in its promise of immortality. If you can be fooled or seduced by an alien (story), then you must accept the possibility that supernatural beings exist. If they do, then there is more than just oblivion waiting beyond the grave.

That would explain why the aliens are possibly choosing to let us fry in radiation.

reply to post by AlchemicalBinoculars


maybe they love irradiated food...microwave dinners or maybe after millions of years in space they are immune too radiation,its common knowledge that scientists even now on earth,are testing animals too find which type of animals stand up too radiation most,in case we need too infuse our genes with anti-radioactive cells...pretty cool eh? ofcourse,from a humans point of view,be afrais,be very afraid,cos aliens are lovin this...

reply to post by raggin


well if humans can fly at the speed of light in mettalic ships instantaneously,i would probably consider they werent real,cos ive seen them do this four times now in scotland,government? highly doubtful,but if it is government,you must then take into consideration,the supernatural too,cos its impossible,according too the laws of physics.
According too the top scientists,theres about no chance of aliens not existing aswell,on top of that...aliens are just advanced physical beings like us,so they are not supernatural...unless they have advanced so much,they can do things,not of this world...like flying at the speed of light... or going back and forth through dimensions,or becoming invisible,but even then,we already have the basis for each of these "technologies",and its not siupernatural...according too science.

reply to post by Druscilla

If picking a science, any real physical science is too difficult for you, I'll give a really very extremely simple question in plain English that super intelligence telepathic aliens would be able to answer in a snap:
Who am I?

That 'last' question; I've already answered.

Why is it that you creatures seem to think that; ET is knowledgable on ALL subjects? It isn't that way with T. Humans, so you really have no logical or rational reason to think that we should be. Making your non-sequitur
queries wholly irrelevant. You could no more determine that any given individual was Terrestrial or not given the "line" of investigation you are attempting. In short, using that technique is just plain stupid.

If you really need a science that I have some experience with try Electrical Engineering, or even better Computer Science. Or how about data behavior. Things I'm sure ALL T. Humans know past the age of 15. Or, I'm told I have a fair grasp of "warp mechanics", perhasp the physics of near light velocity mass, and its time dilation vs frame dragging effects. (this one I'd actually like to discuss). (oh yeah, gravity in ET's world is a bit more advanced than your simple notion of it)

Or, and this is just a suggestion; you take a look at some real data and attept to wrap your narrow little mind around it. Your attempts to discredit, without any data of your own is quite simply worthy of only a 6 year old.

And, now you see we have come full circle. Attitudes just like this (yours) are a major "bar" to the very disclosure you (and I) seek. Further, it is people and attitudes like yours that has kept much of this knowledge away from the public for 65 years. You seek change, yet, won't initiate it with in yourselves. If you are incapable of looking into the future with clear vision, then perhaps we should all leave and come back after you have extincted yourselves. Hell, I think the Wolves of your world would do a much better job at the top of your little chain.

Again, as it has been said; "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I've made the claim and provided evidence. If you do not choose to examine the evidence, then you are issueing a "Default" acceptance of its truth. If you want to "test" me to see if my claim holds up, that is fine. But, you will be required to do so in a logical, rational, scientific manner, and not by a set of non-sequitur queries.

And as for "deflection". You accuse me, yet you are the one deflecting. I presented real scientific data, you attepted to deflect attention away from that, and onto somethng that is wholly irrelevant. The "deflection" you accuse me of, was an attept to restore the query to a more scientific method.

ETA:

You indicated earlier you could not be debunked, but, I postulate that I've already done so. Still, I give you another chance with the options above.

I don't think you interpreted that quite correct. I said I had not been debunked, NOT that I couldn't be debunked. There is a wee difference there.

However, given your chosen method; I can't be debunked. Try real science, at least you would have a remote chance.

Let's just NUKE Fukashima, might as well make it worse...just make sure it's a 100Mt warhead...

Aliens only care about our nuclear missiles since they can be used against them...

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


In other words, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, refuse to answer questions, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, refuse to cooperate, and more dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, even about deflection.

You mention scientific evidence? Please point me where that is, as I may have missed it. I'm only human after all.

And thank you again for demonstrating how appallingly obviously and cluelessly human you are.
Please seek some professional help. I fear you may have a condition where your perspective on reality is askew. I also recommend staying away from children.

Who am I? Give me a name, age and location, or even just one.

Originally posted by Druscilla

In other words, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, refuse to answer questions, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, refuse to cooperate, and more dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, even about deflection.

You seem to be experiencing some issues recognizing and using your "call stack". If you will notice, I'm not the one attempting to deflect, dodge, etc. I've presented no excuses. That is all you. You are the one attempting to prove that an Orange is fruit by comparing steel alloys. While I'm trying to demonstrate biological properties using, OMG, biology.

You mention scientific evidence? Please point me where that is, as I may have missed it. I'm only human after all.

The link is below. You could also do a general search and find it.

reply to post by Hunger4freedom


We are ready.....

We need to stop all the Governments who possess Nuclear Weapons....

We need to stop all those going for Nuclear Power (at least until we can provide something to exterminate all failures i.e Fukishima)....

We can step up.... i think we are just wanting someone to take the lead....

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Right, so, you present a bunch of data totally out of context without any references regarding when or where and from what the DNA was collected, with no chain of custody for verification, such that the data presented could very well be a soup of pig and human DNA derived from modified pigs used in transplant surgeries.

You also misspelled 'Summary' as 'summEry'. I see no proof. I see no evidence.
All I see is some data presented completely out of context in an attempt to 'wow' gullible idiots into believing you.

WHO AM I?

Use your telepathy to tell me. I suspect, however, you have no telepathy. That's okay. Ring up your alien brothers and sisters to use their telepathy.
No?

I still stand.

You truly don't get it.

There is a metaphysical, spiritual reality to life, ie. you are a spirit in body, in a tough dream lab school, with many traps, its like after much study, you did a practicum and alot is on the line here, because in this lower frequency, more negative world, you can end up being stuck for a while and recycle here, reincarnate here with lesser and lesser higher frequency gifts of psi, connectivity to Family.

The whole universe is a school, and there are different levels of tests, and also there are different polarities.

Now, that old fashioned notion of the devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other, that is pretty much what life here is like in the tests.

Or being given a multiply choice exam each day. With possible regression or progression, as the outcomes.
Gaining or losing consciousness/intellect/love.

I happen to believe that healing will occur and that people are going to be freed from this longer trap some have been in, I want to interject that now.

But anyway.

ETs, on higher levels or channels remember who they are.

The ETs on planets like earth are less likely to have gotten here, although, in the game with the interactive things happening, ie. you wake up more, ask for help, are more compassionate and loving, more Good can come in and help, more miracles, more disclosure occurs, better people management and interactive responsive leadership, and civilian involvement, etc etc, more equality. And also conversely the more violence, folloiwng orders, not questioning, and negativity occurs, the opposite is true, more negativity takes over Trojan Horse style.

So some of the other planets in tests like here are in worse state than we are, more dictatorship, and abuses, though earth is fairly low on the scale of things.

Some planets are in much better states and probably went to level 2, or 3 sociities and are more like Star Trek by now.

You see, we're in tests here and its up to us, to bring this baby home and out of the Matrix Womb.

We do get a lot of help when we wake up.

Many people have heard the call to come in, and are being born here to help, but then can't even wake up, as this planet is being run to the ground by the most diabolitcal negatives, who think they're allowed to cheat, but they believe our souls are on the line here.

Well, I know they can't cheat, and they're overdoing it enormously. I believe there will be a time soon, when the school will be freed because this world does need help.

But we all wait for the outcomes and in the meantime, doing the work we came to do so Goodness has more access in the world is a good idea.

Now your idea of sending all the good guys out of here, BUT you don't seem get the school and of the bad guys who are running the whole thing and hurting people aren't going to leave.

So you would just totally bring earth to a hellzone.

We're the ones in the tests.

If we're not seeing good results yet, it means we have a lot more work to do waking up and working for a good world, which is way easier than we think, but against all of our programming, because it means we work from the bottom up and start to rectivy the stavation and homelessness and give them the voice, the newspaper/newsletter, radio blog. True Higher Ups always go the bottom in recitfying things and work their way up, they don't dictate to others, but listen to the ones living there and what they feel and need. They don't disempower people from their natural co-ownership of earht and resources and make working a slave job necessary to have land or build a house, beause it isn't, these are ABC's and 123's foundational things, before you dot another I or cross another T or get into any philosophies, beliefs, politics or ISMS, they're the basics. So, lets all get to work eh, we need to start to shine our lights here alot more!

reply to post by Druscilla

In other words, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, refuse to answer questions, dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, refuse to cooperate, and more dodge, duck, weave, deflection, excuses, even about deflection.

I think you are missing a critical point here. You accuse me of all that, yet, and I have to ask this; If I was some T. Human physicist "posing" as ET. Do you think that I would have any issues answering that? And, when answered correctly; would that make me "real"? The only logical answer here is: NO.

The point is, queries of that nature are meaningless. You can extract absolutely NO useful data from the posing of such queries (I'm speaking to the "nature" ... in a sort of vague way). The only appropriate data is necessarily biological, as this is a question of biology. Therefore, it becmes significantly more logical to persue biological data, and its analysis, as opposed to queries that any given T. Human may be able to correctly answer.

You should note however that my knowledge of Biology, and micro-biology is only suffecient t allow for reasonably accurate data analysis. I am a Software Engineer (Ret) by profession (MSCS (antique)), I will however be willing to discuss the evidence I have with anyone, however, that discussion should be moved HERE.

We have already derailed this thread enough.

The point is you ask the wrng questions. Further, we can both make better use of our time.

BTW: in case you have some expertise in general relativity and the kerr metric; I have some ideas that may allow Earth to build a system capable of Star travel, even IF short range (8ly or so), using current Terrestrial technlogy, and virtually "off-the-shelf" components, a sort of faux FTL if you will. (does that qualify as help?)