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Teachings From A Higher Power

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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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I'll start by saying this experience happened to me while astral projecting myself during a meditative state on '___'.

I found myself traveling through space - watching planets form, civilizations grow and planets die. I saw suns implode into black holes. I traveled into a black hole only to discover a Big Bang on the other side. I realized that our universe is just one in an infinite multiverse and that there is no start and there is no end to anything. I met a being who called himself a Maker - some may call him God - but really preferred to be known as a "cosmic caretaker".

When I asked it about mankind he immediately took me to a luscious, green oasis. A young man and woman splashed each other and giggled in a radiant pool of crystal clear water. He told me they were humans but they were not real - as where I was at that moment was not inside of any conventional "dimension". The following is the best transcript of what it told me:

When your species was young these sacred oases served as sanctuaries from negative energies. Man and woman loved without burden and distraction. The bond between man and plant was divine. The shrubs and grasses and trees all depended on and trusted humans to protect them from adverse outside influences. For hundreds of millions of years the consecrated bond helped both species evolve and flourish. Plentiful quantities of food and water were provided to the humans by Mother Earth for undertaking the role of caregiver to her defenseless foliage.
And then something changed. A few began to wonder what was outside of the sanctuaries – growing tired with their responsibilities. As their minds expanded they became curious. They questioned why they were doing what they were doing and became blind to Mother Earths fruitful rewards. With free will and high consciousness came greed and corruption. With greed and corruption came banding. This divided the humans and inevitably led to large groups leaving the sanctuaries in the hopes of finding something better. The few who chose to stay behind – over time – became so enlightened, became so divine, became so conscious by their care-giving roles that they achieved deification and in much later times came to be revered and worshiped as Gods by the ones who left.
Sadly, their numbers dwindled as they passed onto the heavens and the sacred oases were left defenseless once again. They were seen as resources to fuel civilization and destroyed by corrupted humans. These oases still exist though. Inside every tree, every sunset, every twinkling lovers eyes. Wherever beauty exists, truth exists and you will find sanctuary there.
Your body, mind, soul and spirit are your sacred oasis my son. It's difficult to understand how anyone could destroy anything. You and all of your species are spirits of the external world around you. When the external world around you is sick, you are internally sick. All of your diseases are manifestations of a poisoned world – meant to show you and teach you that Mother Earth feels you. She wants you to feel her suffering so you will stop hurting her and learn to treat her with love and respect. Your viruses, your plagues, your cancers – they are the direct wounds felt by Mother Earth materialized within you.
The Earth loves you. Love her back. Stop the needless hurt and exploitation. She is a living being who feels pain just as you do, and despite what many say about me – I do love you [mankind].




Peace, Love, Unity & Respect my brothers and sisters.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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AlexanderTurboLover, thanks for the read I enjoyed it especially the GIA effect on Humans from humans effecting Gia. Makes you wonder how things could be if ALL worked for a better cause instead of all the ignorance sharing. Maybe EA*RTH would give new flora that could cure all the ills but why the ignorance is deforesting the potential locations of these special flora humans are prevented from exposure. I am 1 who also feels inhabitants of a sphere effect the sphere behavior also effecting the behavior of the parent star(s) which in turn would effect the sphere the inhabitants are on. Its like brainwave and aurora energy interacting with the energies from the sphere.

NAMASTE
LOVE LIGHT ETERNIA*******
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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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This was a beautiful read Alexander. You were very humble and down-to-earth with your message. Hold to that. I find that "spiritualism and metaphysics" tends to create grandiose ideology and ego over the long term study. Even myself included (as to being grandiose and egotistical) You are a refreshing breath of fresh air. Great read. Blessed Be.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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lovely account of a [neo]shamanic journey
it's brevity is the only issue i have with it
but i guess it's due to the "sorcery aid" chosen



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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Good read. It is important to realize that in some circles a "first" or as some may call it, a multiverse exists. From this metaverse came the original universes which gave birth to other universes and so on.


The multiverse (or meta-universe, metaverse) is the hypothetical set of multiple possible universes (including the historical universe we consistently experience) that together comprise everything that exists and can exist: the entirety of space, time, matter, and energy as well as the physical laws and constants that describe them. The term was coined in 1895 by the American philosopher and psychologist William James.[1] The various universes within the multiverse are sometimes called parallel universes.
Metaverse

This may be what you witnessed in your meditation. I don't know that for a fact, but it sounds awfully corresponding.


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posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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how can we trust that the universe is for our enjoyment,,, that oases were created for us,,, what source is doing this for us and why not clear up any confusion... ?



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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By the way, yes, the earth is alive. Soon, we will know that without a doubt. Very soon. She has been slumbering, but she has awoke.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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I think Fungi (forgive my shortening of your name, it's just my way) that the Universe was NOT created for our enjoyment. It's more or less a university, if you will. There is a ladder. No matter what your religion - you move up and down it - dependent upon your external choices. Thus, it's best to err on the side of caution and be the best sort of person you can be.

Not to worry though. If you don't quite reach the next rung of the ladder, perhaps you'll stay on the one you stand. At worst, you go down a step. This does not mean you can't move your way back up again.

Just a Thought.

edit on 27-4-2012 by CirqueDeTruth because: spelling



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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appreciate your thoughts.......

i have thought of these sort of things as well.... but i question.....

how do you know the universe is a university,,,,, what is creating all these souls and the ladder,,,, you believe in ( god,creator, orchastrater of this school?)

i question,,,, the hierchy and levels of this school,,, what,how, and who decided that the one path up is the best way of being,, is this mathamatical/statistical that there is a conformed way to best be and once we climb the ladder we are trapped being that more limited form ( devils advocate pun intended) you think lower realms crave more absolute freedom,,, higher levels you cant have complete freedom because you must restrict yourself from doign certain things..... this is an idea in religion of following a good path, maybe you wont recieve the most pleasure and reward from greed, but in the long and high run you will be better off...



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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You took '___'? As in Dimethyltryptamine? Why would you do that? I was all into your story while developing a great respect for your creativity. Now you've cheapened it into a drugged induced daydream. Very disappointed.



posted on Apr, 27 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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Yes, Dimethyltryptemene. As in the chemical being produced in your Pineal Gland as you read this. The chemical that causes you to dream. The chemical that is, as some scientists believe, responsible for holding your soul. Pass it off as cheap drug-induced visions but do not throw the message out the window just because you harbor pre-conceived notions about scheduled narcotics.

I do not condone the use of drugs but people are free to do as they will - and if messages like these are passed on to myself and others through the states of being these chemicals produce than I see more positivity than harm.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 02:19 AM
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I'm deeply sorry to say this, but i've read most of the astral projection threads and stories and they seem like bedtime stories to me. I think it's all coming from the mind/imagination. I've tried different methods myself but never succeeded.
I might get banned for this but are these people who write the stories lying?
Astral projection has been disproved many times and i've seen the 'experiments' that a user conducted here on ATS and many others that i've seen on youtube and read on google.
Astral projection seems just too good to be true. It's just an imaginary refuge from this damn f**ked up world.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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Interesting read thanks for sharing.

Couldn't help but be reminded of a quote of Henry Rollins.



en.wikiquote.org...

"You would think that pot had some kind of power; I mean come on, it’s a plant, not a reason for living. Controlled by a plant, how hilarious. A plant! A #ing plant!"


The interconnectedness of everything is largely ignored in a world organised by quantification, I'm glad you found your way.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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Have you ever looked at any evidence for the existence of Astral Projection instead, or have you only looked at evidence seeking to 'disprove' it and made your opinion from there?

There is a lot of evidence for Reincarnation and Life-After-Death from Near Death Experiences...

If the soul/spirit exists as indicated in the evidence, I'm not sure why the soul leaving the body to another place like astral projection would be impossible.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by Alexander382
I'm deeply sorry to say this, but i've read most of the astral projection threads and stories and they seem like bedtime stories to me. I think it's all coming from the mind/imagination. I've tried different methods myself but never succeeded.
I might get banned for this but are these people who write the stories lying?
Astral projection has been disproved many times and i've seen the 'experiments' that a user conducted here on ATS and many others that i've seen on youtube and read on google.
Astral projection seems just too good to be true. It's just an imaginary refuge from this damn f**ked up world.


Here's the thing, just because you yourself don't have the skillset to accomplish something, don't assume that it is fictional or unattainable. Anyone that seriously wants to master any sort of skill needs to understand that it will take hard work, dedication and patience.

This is true in all parts of life, you must make small goals so that you can see that you are indeed making progress. The first time I went to the Gym I didn't throw 315 up on the bench try to lift it and go "damn, it's impossible...well, that's that, and go home" lol I started out with what I could manage at the time and kept putting in the work, I literally started with 135lbs, 2 plates but I kept at it...."ok now I'm up to 225, a few weeks later 240...etc" ... Now I rep 315 like a BOSS!

It was the same thing when I started meditation, I didn't sit there and get frustrated because it didn't come easily...in the begining I could only get a few seconds of "silence" before a thought rolled through my head "what's for dinner" , "How's my brother doing" , "crap, I've got to go to costco tomorrow"... but as time went on instead of fighting with these thoughts in my head, I sorta just let things drift through and I tuned out. I wouldn't force myself to sit there and make it happen, because it's not something that can be forced.

When I first started lucid dreaming (what a trip that was) It was the opposite , the only way I can describe it is "remembering who you are" if that makes any sense. I'd be in a dream and something would catch my attention to alert me that I was dreaming, sometimes it was a place I wasn't familiar with, or something physics defying that couldn't occur in the physical world and it would be like a lightbulb would go off, I would literally go "holy @$& I'm dreaming!!!" and I'd do something like take off like a rocket and try to fly, the sensation would get me excited and I would wake up IMMEDIATELY!
I then learned (over a loooong period of time) not to get too excited once I realized I was lucid, that's when I started creating.

This went on through sleep paralysis, used to fight it and be horrified by it and one day I said, "this can't kill me, and I went with it" I sorta surrendered to it and stopped fearing it. Once I lost the fear...that's when the fun started. (seeing yourself sleep is crazy)



At the end of the day you have to be open to whatever you're attempting to do and understand that the only thing limiting you is yourself.


This is going to sound crazy, maybe not to those that have done it, but the 1st time I left this is what it reminded me of...lol




posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 05:41 AM
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So.... according to your '___' trip,,, the cosmic caretaker told/showed you that a utopia/s existed where humans were given everything easily, there was no suffering or need and yet they desired more and that is why we now live in a world full of innocents suffering, ruled by the most wealthy and evil human beings amongst us and our Earth and all of it's innocent creatures being tortured because of this?




All while we are blind to these utopias and our fall.



Could you ask him to make some sense of that for us the next time you see him. Thanks.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 07:08 AM
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This story is our fall from grace. It did not happen a long time ago or in some other cosmic realm, it is what is happening right now when you believe you don't have enough.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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Your experience is totally subjective. Plus if you knew what astral travel really is about, you wouldnt say such silly things. And dmt experiences are just an exteriorization of your beliefs, hopes, fears, unconscious, memories,... all mixed in visions and feelings most of the time irrationals. Sometimes with a bit of truth in it (but that little bit will probably be drowned in an ocean of illusions). After all in these altered states you are highly receptive and momentarily open up to higher forces and outer energies that would be ignored normally. But to say that you can learn the Truth from that, excuse me but thats laughable. I have read so much trip reports of people that think they found out the truth of the world and its creation. Yet they all differ from each other. The funny thing is most of these people are junkies or suicidal and with their "newly acquired knowledge" you would think they would evolve and not need to do it anymore but they still wont do # with their lives! Way to go for people that supposedly learnt the truth about everything. I would say their "experiences" are like a lucid dream state but more wild and intense.


I agree with your last paragraph however. Earth the mother of all and the giver of life and existences should be respected above everything else. Its a pearl whose worth cannot be quantified or compared.
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posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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Star and flag, excellent post friend. I too have been able to see the magnificence and grandeur of the whole thing, and I too have felt the loving presence of the Mother who keeps us all safe and warm. I too have met "Makers," but I did not hear them call themselves that. They were higher beings, and were graduated creators, as we will all be one day. Yes, each of us is in training to be a Creator. Life is expanding all the time, getting bigger and bigger. Why fight to keep it small, and alone?

They questioned why they were doing what they were doing and became blind to Mother Earths fruitful rewards. With free will and high consciousness came greed and corruption. With greed and corruption came banding. This divided the humans and inevitably led to large groups leaving the sanctuaries in the hopes of finding something better. The few who chose to stay behind – over time – became so enlightened, became so divine, became so conscious by their care-giving roles that they achieved deification and in much later times came to be revered and worshiped as Gods by the ones who left.

Today's humankind are a fickle lot, they are so into their electronic toys, they cannot even see that which provides for them everything, their food, clothing, building materials, ground to stand upon, gravity to hold us down on the ground. They do perform lip service to the popular Godman everyone knows the name of, every culture has one, don't they?

Reading this makes me happy, for I am not alone in getting to see these things. I wish everyone could see it.



posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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Everything you saw and experienced, was all made in your own mind-

We are dreamers...

We create/emanate/express our desires, our fears, our loves, through dreams and spiritual experiences....the experiences and dreams are birthed through the unconsciousness and preconceived ideas/thoughts/feelings.

Your experience shares with us the deepest part of you....the maker that you perceive, the earth that you wish it to be, the ways of life you feel that have gone astray, or even the idea that there is a maker watching and loving us...

It all means something personal, to you...much more then it is a message for anyone else.

It shows things you need, you want, and even dont like....

My best to you always
LV



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