From Skeptic to Believer in an Instant

Originally posted by Darkblade71
reply to post by Logmafia

 

You should come clean with your friend.
Things like that can have life long effects on their thinking,

You're probably right, I'd hate to see the lore of that night die though.

Originally posted by ArrowsNV

Originally posted by Od1nson

Originally posted by TritonTaranis
Sound like you was slipped Rohypnol

Do you remember anything after the incident ?

Absolutely ! once the mass of cloud and the second one that my friend and I felt touch us. ( such a warmth feeling, so beautiful) yes..after it happened. I turned to my friend and after a few expletives. I asked him if anybody had came in the front door. to which he replied no? It's hard to explain, but i've tried the best I could. We felt as if there was still a presence for a few moments after.

Then nothing. we just discussed and tried to work out just what in the blue **** had happened.

My buddy and I's experience was back last May and I still can barely describe it, its not that we don't remember.

I mean how would you describe something that you have never seen before? How would you describe something that seems to transcend space, time, and the known dimensions? I have never come across any word in the dictionary that could accurately describe what we saw.

I completely understand the "hard to describe" dilemma, like I said in the last post, don't let the 'non-believers' get to you.

I know dude. i've probably not described it right down to the last detail, I've tried the best I could though.
The only sense i can make of it is I am 100% a believer in spirits since the event.

reply to post by Logmafia


I hear ya!

But you can also claim the ultimate mind freak!

reply to post by Od1nson


I believe you. Strange things are happening. Let the naysayers say what they may. I'm no enemy of science. I read science news everyday but I still know when they are lying and when they're not. Ghosts are real and so are alot of things we thought were just fables or stories. I don't see anything more urgent in this present time than expanding our minds to include what we previously concluded was impossible. "They" have been hiding so much from us. God is taking our blinders off so his children can "see". Don't put your blinders back on no matter who says what and no matter how scary it is. Leave them off. Tell these spirits (if they bother or intentionally try to scare you) that you are God's child and no evil may enter here. It works. I also ignore them and they bother me less because they want attention. I have too much going on in my life to entertain these spirits so I find it easier to ignore and walk the path with God.

reply to post by Od1nson


Our eyes all open in different ways, sounds like you had an eye opener, now comes the fun part, figuring out WHY there is a spirit world.

Sounds like you were smoking something before all this smoke appeared!

Sorry I don't find your story credible.

Originally posted by R0CR13
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Sounds like you had a close encounter (as in lil gray guys) the things you describe fit a standard scenario .

You having any repeating dreams .

Did you just register to post this ?


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I had a reoccurring dream when we first moved to this neighbourhood in 2004. Basically just a long dark figure would stair at me in my doorway and just stand over my bed at night. This went on for a good few months, Then, just stopped.

Originally posted by chrismicha77
Sounds like you were smoking something before all this smoke appeared!

Sorry I don't find your story credible.

It's okay, that's your choice.

I'm drug free

Originally posted by Darkblade71
reply to post by Od1nson

 

Our eyes all open in different ways, sounds like you had an eye opener, now comes the fun part, figuring out WHY there is a spirit world.

I hear ya' ...oh so many questions and the answers are proving fairly difficult to find.

Originally posted by Leigh3
reply to post by Od1nson

 

I believe you. Strange things are happening. Let the naysayers say what they may. I'm no enemy of science. I read science news everyday but I still know when they are lying and when they're not. Ghosts are real and so are alot of things we thought were just fables or stories. I don't see anything more urgent in this present time than expanding our minds to include what we previously concluded was impossible. "They" have been hiding so much from us. God is taking our blinders off so his children can "see". Don't put your blinders back on no matter who says what and no matter how scary it is. Leave them off. Tell these spirits (if they bother or intentionally try to scare you) that you are God's child and no evil may enter here. It works. I also ignore them and they bother me less because they want attention. I have too much going on in my life to entertain these spirits so I find it easier to ignore and walk the path with God.

Thanks for the input. Amen

reply to post by Od1nson


They are. It requires a lot of inner soul searching, the great thing is though, you already have all of the answers, you just don't know it yet.

Flag and Star!

I've read about these black "living" clouds, it was in a German book, I don't recall the name of it or who wrote it. But it described at least 2 similar events concerning "black clouds" behaving just like you describe. Too bad we only have to take your word for it.

BTW, I got goosebumps while reading, that has not happened to me for quiet some time.

Originally posted by Leigh3
reply to post by Od1nson

 

I believe you. Strange things are happening. Let the naysayers say what they may. I'm no enemy of science. I read science news everyday but I still know when they are lying and when they're not. Ghosts are real and so are alot of things we thought were just fables or stories. I don't see anything more urgent in this present time than expanding our minds to include what we previously concluded was impossible. "They" have been hiding so much from us. God is taking our blinders off so his children can "see". Don't put your blinders back on no matter who says what and no matter how scary it is. Leave them off. Tell these spirits (if they bother or intentionally try to scare you) that you are God's child and no evil may enter here. It works. I also ignore them and they bother me less because they want attention. I have too much going on in my life to entertain these spirits so I find it easier to ignore and walk the path with God.

Bold added for emphasis.

Also a truthful post.

Seriously strange things are happening, if those of you doubt citing "lack of evidence" don't want to believe this person's story, well then don't; you've already made up your closed mind, you don't need to ridicule this person for sharing such a personal story.

For those of you open to these things, for those who actually 'feel' what is happening (you know who you are and what I am talking about), embrace it and realize "who" is doing this.

I'll keep open to all this being some sort of Govt conspiracy if someone can furnish proof that the Govt is involved, But until then, I know what I am feeling, I know what I experienced, and I will believe that my 'higher power' (ie. God) was responsible.

Originally posted by Darkblade71
reply to post by Od1nson

 

They are. It requires a lot of inner soul searching, the great thing is though, you already have all of the answers, you just don't know it yet.

Perhaps one day I will find the answers to that which I seek.

Until then I'll continue to study

Originally posted by Regenstorm
Flag and Star!

I've read about these black "living" clouds, it was in a German book, I don't recall the name of it or who wrote it. But it described at least 2 similar events concerning "black clouds" behaving just like you did. Too bad we only have to take your word for it.

I really wish there is/was somekind of way I could share credible evidance. As it stands there was absolutely nothing I could have done. Hindsight is a beautiful thing..

Sound like you guys did some kind of drug together, 2 friends just sitting around and relaxing. The only time me and a friend would ever do that is if we were extremely high. Just saying. Usually when you have a friend over you go out and do stuff rather then sitting around doing nothing and relaxing. So yea I call drugs.

Originally posted by neobludragon
Sound like you guys did some kind of drug together, 2 friends just sitting around and relaxing. The only time me and a friend would ever do that is if we were extremely high. Just saying. Usually when you have a friend over you go out and do stuff rather then sitting around doing nothing and relaxing. So yea I call drugs. [/quote

Guess you missed the part where i wrote I'm drug free..

reply to post by Od1nson


This is more of a question than a statement, seeing as I really don't know the science involved in such an event. My question is: In order for any event to take place (from something as simple as hitting a baseball with bat, to a nuclear explosion) there must be a build up and release of energy. So, how much energy would it take for smoke, or a ghost, or a spirit to appear in this realm? My thinking is that it would take MASSIVE amounts of energy, to the point where your experience should have been preceded by the house shaking off its foundation and windows shattering. Maybe even the boiling of your blood. I dunno, it's just my guess.

Not claiming your experience is false, but maybe this event had a natural and logical explanation that you just don't know about. Yes? No? I dunno.

Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by Od1nson

 

This is more of a question than a statement, seeing as I really don't know the science involved in such an event. My question is: In order for any event to take place (from something as simple as hitting a baseball with bat, to a nuclear explosion) there must be a build up and release of energy. So, how much energy would it take for smoke, or a ghost, or a spirit to appear in this realm? My thinking is that it would take MASSIVE amounts of energy, to the point where your experience should have been preceded by the house shaking off its foundation and windows shattering. Maybe even the boiling of your blood. I dunno, it's just my guess.

Not claiming your experience is false, but maybe this event had a natural and logical explanation that you just don't know about. Yes? No? I dunno.

Two friends chillin watching television when the events transpired. not so sure of any buildup but the experience is one that I will never forget and definetly changed my entire way of how I view the paranormal.

Best thing about it ( as if there is a good thing about having the bejebus scared out of you)
My friend and I can always claim to have a witness. not many people whom see an apparation can claim to do so with a friend.

I'm not stupid I realise each "ghost story" carries with it a level of skepticism. If nothing else, Both my friend and I can take to the grave with what we both seen. no drugs no alcohol. Just realisation of the paranormal.

Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by Od1nson

 

This is more of a question than a statement, seeing as I really don't know the science involved in such an event. My question is: In order for any event to take place (from something as simple as hitting a baseball with bat, to a nuclear explosion) there must be a build up and release of energy. So, how much energy would it take for smoke, or a ghost, or a spirit to appear in this realm? My thinking is that it would take MASSIVE amounts of energy, to the point where your experience should have been preceded by the house shaking off its foundation and windows shattering. Maybe even the boiling of your blood. I dunno, it's just my guess.

Not claiming your experience is false, but maybe this event had a natural and logical explanation that you just don't know about. Yes? No? I dunno.

THAT is an interesting question!

It seems that spirits needing to drain batteries or any sort of electrical energy to manifest has become an almost accepted idea by a lot of people, and it could very well be true.

That's an answer I would like to know for myself some day.
I'll have to keep that question in mind.