Has the U.S ever won a war?

I don't feel the need normally to write historical dissertations on a message board post.

I did enough writing in college, i do this mainly for fun.

depends on your definition of winning ..america and Britain which i regard as one super power have many puppets in foreign governments for them to puppeteer ....

all roads lead to rome

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by CALGARIAN
Serious question.

I know U.S lost to Canada way back, burnt down the White House.
Civil War was fought within, so win/lose.
One could argue Russia actually "defeated" most of the German army.
Vietnam was lost and the Northern faction took over.
Korean war is still ongoing, in the North's eyes.
Iraq fail, IMO.
Afghanistan pending.

Has U.S ever walked in and out of a country before?

Serious question.

ummmm...the american revolution, for starters. Just saying.

With the help of the Dutch and French etc...

Originally posted by ialyxxiieee

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by CALGARIAN
Serious question.

I know U.S lost to Canada way back, burnt down the White House.
Civil War was fought within, so win/lose.
One could argue Russia actually "defeated" most of the German army.
Vietnam was lost and the Northern faction took over.
Korean war is still ongoing, in the North's eyes.
Iraq fail, IMO.
Afghanistan pending.

Has U.S ever walked in and out of a country before?

Serious question.

ummmm...the american revolution, for starters. Just saying.

With the help of the Dutch and French etc...

Already commented on this, but again-does this mean that america did not win, because they had allies? If thats the case, has any nation EVER won a war?

Originally posted by SrWingCommander
reply to post by alldaylong

 

Yes I do realize that. So OK let's rephrase because your picky.

The 13 colonies, who would become the United States, with the help of the Dutch and French, drove British forces and their mercenary Germans from the territory said colonies claimed.

in turn bankrupting america allowing the British royal elitists to buy up the entire american system

america and Britain are one and the same ....but hey Britain got it's ass kicked right up to the Romans colonized us and taught us how to fight....

im not a big fan of american policy regarding recent wars...but they have achieved everything they set out to do even if the real goals where hidden from the american public

reply to post by CALGARIAN


DUDE? We NEVER fought Canada...therefore NEVER lost to Canada. And the BRITISH burned the WHITE HOUSE.

Where did you get your facts? Really?

I sense a troll of sorts with this thread....

en.wikipedia.org...

What's more worrying is the amount of time since it's inception the US of A has NOT been involved in some sort of military operation.

reply to post by CALGARIAN

there are no winners in war, only losers.

Well depends on what you call a victory. If winning a war means the other country saying you won then no we haven't. If winning a war means coming into your country completely disrupting your economy, killing your people and then planting a base on your soil only to stay around for decades to come....then we have won just about every war we have fought. No other country in the world has as many bases on foreign soil then we do. The reason they don't is because they can't. The reason they can't is because we don't let them.

Now I'm not saying that's something to be proud of. Just answering your question.

reply to post by Kram09


Oh really?Gulf War was us against the 4th largest army of the planet.Trained and equipped by Russia.We are just that good.Man to man the US military is and has usually been the best trained and best equipped military.Our polititians are our failing,not our military

In fact no one wins a war ever. One side just loses more than the other. I guess you could say the the arms dealers are the only winners.

The last time the U.S issued a declaration of war was on June 5th 1945 against Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania.

reply to post by captaintyinknots

bs, America exists. It won. You can throw semantics out there all you want, but the bottom line is, america was at war with britain

Great Britain funded both sides of the war. Why do you think they did that..?

The United States was on the winning side of the biggest war in the history of this planet; WW2.
The American Revolution. I guess the civil war as well.

Kosovo? Don't know if that would really count as a war though.

reply to post by CALGARIAN


"burned down the White House"

The beat down of 1812. Sorry. Sorry about that. And after all you did for us.

At Montréal that September, Lévis and 2,000 troops confronted 17,000 British and American troops. The French capitulated on 8 September 1760, and the British took possession of Montreal. The Treaty of Paris was signed in 1763 to end the war and gave possession of parts of New France to Great Britain, including Canada and the eastern half of French Louisiana—lying between the Mississippi River and the Appalachian Mountains.

As far as get in get out and no one gets hurt, the Kosovo campaign was not a bad campaign, until people started talking about collateral damage, as if it was nothing. Originally, not a single person died and just the infrastructure was bombed, and that was sufficient to get everyone to surrender.

Its all a big board game and its not over yet, and as such you can't really say who won and who lost because these are just moves on the board. You might say who is winning, and that would be some country on the UN most desirable place to live list.
en.wikipedia.org...

Yer kickin our ass now, since we are in 6th place and you are in 4th place.

reply to post by SrWingCommander


your understanding of history is flawed at best.. you are surely living under a rock

Depends on your definition of win.

conventional wars - not even a full 1 hand count.

ruling, and economically raping a country by installing a puppet dictator, shah, or government - lots.

but that means the CIA has won more than the whole us military.
hell they even took out the USA as well.

Originally posted by mysterioustranger
reply to post by CALGARIAN

 

DUDE? We NEVER fought Canada...therefore NEVER lost to Canada. And the BRITISH burned the WHITE HOUSE.

Where did you get your facts? Really?

I sense a troll of sorts with this thread....

you must be under 14 or simply an ignoramus, google war of 1812

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correct....

Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

The American revolution was fought and won, for the most part, by the French. We stood no chance against the British.

All due respect, but if you think the French fought the Revolution for us you don't have the first clue about what really happened. We kicked Cornwallis' ass all the way to the sea ALL BY OURSELVES before the French got involved. At best their navy prevented him from escaping to open another front, but we did all of the heavy lifting.