My 7 year old suspened for "sexual harassment"

I really can relate to you OP. You're going to have to fight with everything you have, make a counter claim of sexual inappropriateness because of the girls pants. Meet with the principle and assert that you feel your child's rights have been violated tell him you have a lawyer, get a lawyer. This can follow your child for the rest of his academic years, anytime a potentially sexual situation arises he will be looked at more than warranted. Goddamn psychopathic society.

I really can relate to you OP. You're going to have to fight with everything you have, make a counter claim of sexual inappropriateness because of the girls pants. Meet with the principle and assert that you feel your child's rights have been violated tell him you have a lawyer, get a lawyer. This can follow your child for the rest of his academic years, anytime a potentially sexual situation arises he will be looked at more than warranted. Goddamn psychopathic society.

In these kinds of situations I love to hear from people with "boots on the ground" experience. Any other insights?

I mentioned "section 1983". If "child services" is getting involved, it would seem to me that this whole ordeal is going to cost the original poster some "time", which for most people means "money lost". Someone other than the accused should be responsible for those costs, especially IF, the child is found innocent.

I did some checking and pending on the state, mandated reporters MAY or MAY NOT be immune. There is also the possibility of winning in Federal court. I think they key is if its "OUT OF BAD FAITH". People have won this kind of suit before. I would guess the accusers parents are acting "OUT OF BAD FAITH".

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I think the best thing to do is talk with the principal and hope he hasn't yet contacted child services, in many states unless clear evidence of physical abuse or the child has made verbal threats of harm, it's a judgement call. If the principal is acting out of fear of the little girl's parents suing, he'll be motivated for moderation if the OP makes equal threats.

The whole situation is just plain stupid and these policies need to change. We can't expect our children not to be children or even in fact human.

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I think you need to buy a T-shirt with this logo and send it to that little girl as a peace offering.

Originally posted by FortAnthem
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I think you need to buy a T-shirt with this logo and send it to that little girl as a peace offering.

Thank you for that, I needed a to smile and that did the trick.

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Quick save pic....just in case it gets T&C Violation for using drug terms & an indescent pic...I should know I've been warned 4 times....1 more and I get banned...wait I'm I on FB or ATS?

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Make sure you bring that up.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Honestly, I would contact the local news station and report all this information.......

these people and these policies need to be exposed as much as possible to the general population so they can see EVEN IN THEIR AREAS just how bad things are getting......

I completely agree. OP, you should call the local media for sure!

It is plain ridiculous that your son now has a suspension on his record for doing something that no 7 year-old could ever possibly know would lead to such ramifications. I punched a boy in the stomach once when I was seven because I was jealous he was taking away my best friend. The yard duty gal gave me a yellow slip which amounted to one day's detention (rightfully so). If I only got detention for physically assaulting someone, why the eff is your kid getting a suspension and possible expulsion (!!!???) for pulling a little girls pants up whose buttocks was showing?

Granted, my experience was 23 years ago, but it just goes to show how ridiculous things have gotten in schools.

You just won the lottery.

Sue them for like 475,000 $.

Call all the press and the lawyers.

No seriously follow through in like 4-5 yrs this may actually be your big pay off.

This is awful.

I'm in High School, and I see firsthand how flawed this entire system is. You have rights, this story is ridiculous though I believe it considering this school system is pathetic.

I had to get homeschooled because a teacher would make excessive sexual comments to students and once I stated that I felt uncomfortable, she began telling friends of mine that they should get away from me and that I was creepy (which, though I am a lot of things, creepy isn't one of them! )

I went to the safety advisor at school about it all, he jotted down what I said, and then did absolutely nothing about it. She had made a reference about a student having seminal fluid on his face and the school did nothing to even punish her.

Safe to say, home schooling is the best thing I've ever done -- do your child the favor if you ever have the chance, it has been a great thing for me and many others.

tell the school you want the girl suspended for sexual harassment for showing crack. use the fight fire with fire attack.

I have a feeling this may be cleared up after the meeting tomorrow.

People get all up in arms on this board about stuff before thinking through what is really going on.

Having the limited vocabulary of a six year old, you don't know how the little girl described it, she may have thought he was trying to pull her pants down. She may have described him as trying to pull them off, trying to touch her underpants. Between her limited vocabulary and an adult interpretation, who knows what message they got.

If the message was screwed up, or misinterpreted, and a little boy was trying to pull her pants down, that would have to be taken seriously.

And a child putting their hands on another child has to be taken seriously as well, which is why children services are involved.

The parent has been enforcing a dress code on his son. I also have a six year old and they take these mandates very seriously and try to impose them on other people, lol.

I have had to turn around and tell my kid to stop being the police.Young or old you were on his radar if you had an infraction.

Hopefully after this explanation, the parents of the little girl will understand that the son was not accosting her.

So many women are molested and sexually harrassed, the parents are probably over anxious. It is their job to protect their daughter.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
You just won the lottery.

Sue them for like 475,000 $.

Call all the press and the lawyers.

No seriously follow through in like 4-5 yrs this may actually be your big pay off.

Yep. You have slander, libel if they add anything to your son's file, defamation of character and punitive damages. But you need a lawyer who can understand the term "sexual harassment", and it does not apply to this case. The one accused of sexual harassment MUST have implicit power over the other. Your son has no more power than the girl.

Before you find out what their lawyer can do to you and yours, get one. They will work on a contingency, and will not be paid a dime until you settle. You will then be able to afford at-home care where your child can receive home schooling. And you'll be able to afford vacations in Paris.

Making false accusations of abuse is illegal.

I'm telling you the law books are over 40,000 pages long now, you can hit these people with like 10 + violations here at least!

Making a false report to a police officer.
Abuse of process.
Perjury possible.

You can sue the school and name the principal and the teacher, for various types of things. You can sue them for not training their employees better, or for harming your child's education due to negligence and unprofessional behavior.

The state can also be held liable for various mistakes they made as well.

Become a financial vampire and drain them of everything they got.

How utterly ridiculous! Even if he was trying to give her a wedgie.... I mean C'MON! Kids do all kinds of mean/weird things to each other at this age, it's a part of growing up. The way parents, schools and teachers baby the young ones these days will eventually do them more harm than good.

A swift, simple punishment (no snack at lunch) for an alleged wedgie would be acceptable. If your son really was just pulling her pants up then I think a warning not to touch others without their permission would do.

You said that he's been in trouble for "disruptive behavior" before. That's the ammo they'll probably try to use to brand him as a psycho and a potential rapist. I agree with the other posters that you should comply to a certain extent, but don't let them walk all over you. Careful with the girl's parents because they seem to be over-reacting the same as the school. People are very touchy about their kids, they're probably angry. Be very calm in that meeting tomorrow, apologetic to the girls parents, friendly, etc. I'd bring a tape recorder with me and discreetly record the whole thing.

I do have a bit of information to add. In Georgia, I just went through some issues where DFACS literally stole my daughters' children from her. I won't go into details, but this is the information I wanted to bring to the table.

In Georgia, all testing, requirements for classes, training, or anything else they require of you, up to and including if they take the child to foster care, now requires the parent to pay for it. Be aware of this going to talk to them, if it has changed like it did in Georgia, you will be the one paying for it *all*.

This is because DFACS is in such bad financial shape (due to the economy), anything they demand from the parent, mandatory drug testing, parenting classes, psychiatric testing, everything - is the parents responsibility to pocket the bill. No pay? No pass, no resoloution. This is how they railroaded my then unemployed daughter and took her children.

Even after she got a job, paid for all the classes, psych testing, everything, they started after her for child support to the tune of 1500.00 a month. They knew with everything she had to pay, plus the child support, there was no money left for her to live off of.

The psych evals alone were over 2000.00 per test. They kept demanding and demanding, and every time she fulfilled their requirements, they would pop up with another set of demands. When she would get to her 6 month term and think it was all over, they would suddenly have something new. Always something that cost her huge amounts of money of course, to complete.

They either intentionally witheld it during it the previous 6 months when she could have completed it with the other absurd demands, or came up with it to delay her getting the kids back. Everything was "in 6 more months".

They bled us dry, both financially and emotionally, as a family.

DFACS in Georgia has even more power than the attorneys and courts.

Because of them, I will never see my two grandaughters again.

Please listen to the sage advice here. Talk to *no one* until you retain an attorney that specializes in these cases with DFACS. It may seem like something small, but it can so easily balloon much further out of control than you *ever* could imagine. Do not agree to or sign *anything* without an attorney. It will cost you, but not as much as it could cost you if you do not. These people will take every penney you have.

I only wish we had paid the 2000.00 for the attorney at the beginning, instead of what was probably 20,000.00 by the time it was all said and done and ended up losing the kids anyway.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
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So you assume the principle is a woman and the first thing you do is blame it on feminism? This is over a child being accussed of sexual harrassment, it has nothing to do with feminism. What a stretch.

You're absolutely right! I reread the first page and learned why I ASSUMED why the principle was female!

I stand corrected --- thanks for pointing that out...

Carry on!

Originally posted by Tripple_Helix
This is absurd to say the least.

When I was 13 I had a boy slap me through the face at multiple times in a row. I just stood there, and asked him if he was done... he just kept hitting me. Eventually I cracked and started crying ( I was trying to be 'strong and brave'). Nobody did anything to help...

The kid got in major trouble, but was never expelled.
Why on earth would they want to expel your kid for something so trivial?

Something like this, and at his age, I would have called juvenile police, and filed a petition against him for assault. He's a juvenile delinquent.

As a soon to be ex-teacher myself ( I love kids, hate the system we've been forced in to), I would get yourself a good lawyer that will work pro-bono until some resolution is found. If your son was truly just trying to help his classmate out with a "crack problem" then sexual harassment is a grossly over stated charge. A 7 year old does not have the processing ability to understand what that means, let alone implement it.

I remember having a little girl in my class when I was in 1st grade that would regularly drop trow just to get a rise out of the teacher. She had no idea what she was doing at the time, and soon outgrew the behavior. She got a stern talking to and that's about it. This was 22 years ago, however.

How the times have changed. Good luck with everything, OP. Don't let the system browbeat you into submission.


-TS

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