Why is the Smithsonian preventing any research into Giants?

Originally posted by randomname
why, because the "official' theory is that mankind is an ape. evolved from an ape. and nothing more than a monkey.

No.
You're wrong from the git-go, because the 'official' theory is that apes and humans evolved from a common ancestor.
Subtle but important difference, eh?

Listen, guys, I've been reading about Giants for years now. If it's a hoax it's a pretty darn Good one spanning centuries of time, many countries, many lands, many peoples. These are 9, 10, 12, 15 or more feet tall, reddish or blondish hair, carnivores with double rows of teeth, sometimes noted as having 6 digits on their hands/toes, they are said to have literally eaten their species to death after resorting to cannibalism and were the descendants of an ancient dominating race associated with gods or god hybrids. Thousands of years back they were literally all over the globe, and as recent as only a couple hundred years. Many discoveries right here in the U.S. go back to the 19th Century and whenever their remains are unearthed they disappear: misplaced, stolen, or just plain lost. The Smithsonian Institute alone is noted as having "misplaced" a number of these relics! Yet well-documented cases persist and feature famous explorers meeting men of large proportions throughout history. Tombs of huge Giants have been found, over-sized tools and weapons, fossilized footprints etc. There is a Massive ongoing cover-up to hide all this. Some have unsuccessfully tried to claim these were non-human skeletons belonging to apes. Yeah, apes buried in 12'+ long caskets!
There are numerous underground complexes of vast tunnel networks honeycombed throughout the Earth which are associated with "fallen angels" and the like, and many have high ceilings some 12 feet tall.

I think probably part of this is because the tomb of gilgamesh was found and there are reports that the US moved in and took the remains, which kind of alarms me, for their cloning capacity. I have been told that the archeological digs are the most important reason they're in the middle east and that control of this information is key to whatever their plans are.

This ties into Mauro Biglino's book on the literal translations of the old testament.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Our most important reason for being there is most likely oil. But you can't eliminate every other theory. I have heard the ark has been found as well.

The revelation that giants roamed the earth at one point in time will not validate the existense of God. What is will validate is that the human species and its likes have flourished on this planet for a very long time. Also, just like dinosaurs, if giants existed it would of been because of high oxygen levels.

So far from what I have read online. The claims of people finding giant skeletons have all been false. The photos are said to be from a photography contest for the best photo shopped picture in the subject of archeology.

news.nationalgeographic.com...

The National Geographic Society has not discovered ancient giant humans, despite rampant reports and pictures.

The hoax began with a doctored photo and later found a receptive online audience—thanks perhaps to the image's unintended religious connotations.

A digitally altered photograph created in 2002 shows a reclining giant surrounded by a wooden platform—with a shovel-wielding archaeologist thrown in for scale.

www.snopes.com...



Scientists say it is impossible for humans bone structure to be correct at that size. The needed bone density to support a human of that size would disfigure that person so much that they would no longer appear human.

This is based on the square cube law

www.dinosaurtheory.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

The square-cube law (or cube-square law) is a mathematical principle, applied in a variety of scientific fields, which describes the relationship between the volume and the area as the shape's size increases or decreases. It was first described in 1638 by Galileo Galilei in his Two New Sciences.

Loosely speaking this principle states that, as a shape grows in size, its volume grows faster than its area. When applied to the real world this principle has many implications which are important in fields ranging from mechanical engineering to biomechanics. It helps explain phenomena including why large mammals like elephants have a harder time cooling themselves than small ones like mice, and why there are fundamental limits to the size one can build a sand castle.

Once again, we went over this already. That is one photo that was proven false, I am sure there are more, but their is other pictures that are not. And we already went over the law.

Originally posted by randomname
why, because the "official' theory is that mankind is an ape. evolved from an ape. and nothing more than a monkey.

the nephilim are proof of God and the legitimacy of the Bible.

many here on ats will spontaneous combust in front of their computer, causing hundreds of thousands of dollars in fire damage as well as the evacuation of their apartment buildings and neighbours, if that were the case and the existence of God was proven.

especially if their religion, the infallible and hijacked scientific process was used to prove it.

well, that that kind of research is prevented, while examining a pile of chimp crap isn't, is proof that God isn't holding mankind back, but some other contrary force is.

Sometimes.. there is no holding back. Because there is just nothing that has to be hold back.
Sorry, I can't view the videos (and frankly don't have time for that, too, kids, job, you know). Is there any viable, reliable source for the existance of giants on earth? I don't talk about people born with gigantism, as they are obviously not a different "breed" or race.

I'm talking about something like a hidden clan somewhere in the Amazonas or elsewhere.

I doubt that there existed something like giants. I doubt that there is ANY proof for the existance of god. Proove me otherwise, I'm waiting

Originally posted by Dextraphite
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and why would this be? Because it would essentially validate the Bible?

Because people are too stupid to handle it.

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Have you personally seen evidence of these so called giants?

Have you personally seen a skeleton?

Originally posted by CaptainLJB
Listen, guys, I've been reading about Giants for years now. If it's a hoax it's a pretty darn Good one spanning centuries of time, many countries, many lands, many peoples. These are 9, 10, 12, 15 or more feet tall, reddish or blondish hair, carnivores with double rows of teeth, sometimes noted as having 6 digits on their hands/toes, they are said to have literally eaten their species to death after resorting to cannibalism and were the descendants of an ancient dominating race associated with gods or god hybrids. Thousands of years back they were literally all over the globe, and as recent as only a couple hundred years. Many discoveries right here in the U.S. go back to the 19th Century and whenever their remains are unearthed they disappear: misplaced, stolen, or just plain lost. The Smithsonian Institute alone is noted as having "misplaced" a number of these relics! Yet well-documented cases persist and feature famous explorers meeting men of large proportions throughout history. Tombs of huge Giants have been found, over-sized tools and weapons, fossilized footprints etc. There is a Massive ongoing cover-up to hide all this. Some have unsuccessfully tried to claim these were non-human skeletons belonging to apes. Yeah, apes buried in 12'+ long caskets!
There are numerous underground complexes of vast tunnel networks honeycombed throughout the Earth which are associated with "fallen angels" and the like, and many have high ceilings some 12 feet tall.

Found all over the world yet they are kept hidden while dinosaurs are made public. I wonder how "they" manage to teleport all over the world and intercept these findings before word and evidence gets out.

I dont see much fact to look into here, unless we're talking about that huge, extinct chinese monkey discovered in the 1800s.

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It would do several things.

Question the evolution process of man.
It would validate sayings in the bible but also then bring into view more pertinent things like 'if the giants are real then the 'Sons of God' are real who interbred with 'human' wives to create these Giants'.
Then the whole bible is viewed differently and re-analysed like Mauro Biglino has done here with the translation of the Leningrad Codex (Be sure to watch every video because he covers everything from the translation of the language to every gritty detail, trust me, watch them all and you will understand everything from this perspective....but that's not to say it is the only correct perspective as I have discovered there is far more to the pie than just meat and gravy):



This would then validate aliens and absolutely destroy religion because it would be an acknowledgement of God being an Alien and not this all powerful creator of the universe. This then also cripples the economy and removes control. Given the requests from 'God' for the firstborn of everything that exits a womb I can safely say this 'God' CONSUMES us. PHYSICALLY and ETHEREALLY.

I'm only saying that there are documented reports of giant human(oid)s being unearthed throughout history and, like so many other discoveries, the physical evidence is apparently made to Disappear. But they are written about in newspapers and books. Some Living giants were encountered within the past few centuries, including American Indian tribes with the genetic trait of giganticism (possibly from interbreeding with the so-called Mound Builders?).

If we go back into prehistory millions of years, giganticism was the thing. Not just Godzilla's buddies but plant life, insects etc. Why not a proto-human, and I don't mean Australopificus (however it's spelled!). Personally, and I really shouldn't post something so outrageous, but what the hell... I think our world was A Lot different millions of years ago from the way it is now, and I Don't just ean a higher oxygen content and less smog. I'm thinking that for such huge creatures to exist there must have been a lower gravity on Earth, as wild and wacky as that sounds. Sure, our planet's been picking up quite a bit of space junk over the years (from asteroids and comets to plain space dust) twirling around the sun, but I doubt that would have any appreciable affect upon surface gravity. But a lower-g environment Would explain giganticism, and it would probably be the Only thing to explain it.

(Either that or the giants just happened to wander out through polar openings from their natural low-g environment In the Hollow Earth--most of which died out, some managed to survive and pass their genes on. Just to interject a little overdue over-the-top HE fun into the mix!).

Don;t you guys find it strange that all around the globe and throughout the centuries these "hoaxed" giant discoveries share many of the same characteristics? 6 fingers/toes, reddish/blonde hair, Double sets of Teeth?
I think they might be describing the Celtic giants of mythology.
There's a certain ring of truth here.

I'm also not claiming that all photos are real. There are forgeries in every field and from my experience it seems th best way to discredit a certain esoteric genre Is to place fake photos there. Heck, for all I know in the Tesla lover's field, Hutchinson might be more of a Victim than a hoaxer...

Side note: I'm not a religious man so to me bibles are nothing but a collection of stories, but there could just as well be some truth in them.

Ultimately YOU GUYS will decide for yourselves.Open some books and research it as I have. In fact I dare say you'll find more credible "evidence" for Giants than for little grey guys landing saucers in the woods and abducting people.

There are some things in this world that the common man just has to see, up close and personal, to believe. But once he has had a genuine experience, there aren't enough scientific formulas and debunkers in the world to convince him otherwise.

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Or the giants up and left the planet.

Stop trying to prove the bible is telling some version of the truth and just follow the science. The bible has l already been proven false by its own contradictions. If giants existed or still exist they do so without any need of a god or a silly book of myths, Look at this using logic.
You have to look at the physiological problems of giants. Large animals are in steady decline on Earth because they are extremely inefficient. A 12 foot biped would have to have a MASSIVE bone structure just to hold itself up. Also, imaging the size heart it would take to pump blood to the extremities.
Nearly every single picture I have ever come across concerning giant humanoid creatures were considered fakes. Every one of those pictures show up in this video. That said, I am not firmly stating that giants did not exist. I am stating that there is no evidence they existed. The only mention of giants are in mythological texts. And you can't peel giants out of that and say they are/were real with out accepting that all mythological creatures mentioned are/were real. Are you prepared to accept that Hydra, Harpies, Medusa, and Dragons are real? Don't pick and choose what you accept just because it fits with what you WANT to believe. Follow the science and look at the VERIFIABLE evidence.

Originally posted by IpsissimusMagus
So far from what I have read online. The claims of people finding giant skeletons have all been false. The photos are said to be from a photography contest for the best photo shopped picture in the subject of archeology.

news.nationalgeographic.com...

The National Geographic Society has not discovered ancient giant humans, despite rampant reports and pictures.

The hoax began with a doctored photo and later found a receptive online audience—thanks perhaps to the image's unintended religious connotations.

A digitally altered photograph created in 2002 shows a reclining giant surrounded by a wooden platform—with a shovel-wielding archaeologist thrown in for scale.

www.snopes.com...



Scientists say it is impossible for humans bone structure to be correct at that size. The needed bone density to support a human of that size would disfigure that person so much that they would no longer appear human.

This is based on the square cube law

www.dinosaurtheory.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

The square-cube law (or cube-square law) is a mathematical principle, applied in a variety of scientific fields, which describes the relationship between the volume and the area as the shape's size increases or decreases. It was first described in 1638 by Galileo Galilei in his Two New Sciences.

Loosely speaking this principle states that, as a shape grows in size, its volume grows faster than its area. When applied to the real world this principle has many implications which are important in fields ranging from mechanical engineering to biomechanics. It helps explain phenomena including why large mammals like elephants have a harder time cooling themselves than small ones like mice, and why there are fundamental limits to the size one can build a sand castle.

This is a bunch of nonsense about the square-cube law as it pertains to biological entities.

In human biology, muscle mass and tissue grow proportionately to the skeletal structure.

And the link you provided says explicitly that it is hypothetical in relation to dinosaurs because currently, it is a paradox.

Larger body means larger heart means stronger blood pressure means that dinosaurs violate the square-cube rule.

So whether or not I believe if giants existed or not is irrelevant in the context of the information you provided. You can not apply the square-cube law to giant humans if there is a paradox that exists for dinosaurs.

How can scientists claim that bone structure or density would make someone appear not human when we have plenty of humans today that are considered "giants", like NBA basketball players? Their bones look fine to me, and their density is strong enough to enable them to jump a few feet off the ground.

That theory was proposed in the 1600's, and while it applies to many things, it falls short of explaining dinosaurs and for that alone, invalidates biological entities being included in the theory, again, because of the paradox it creates.

Also, you provided a link to Wikipedia, and it says right at the top:

This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations. (October 2010)

Without a solid source, it's speculation. The other links and references conveniently can't explain how dinosaurs were ever able to exist either.

There is enough evidence to support the notion of humans being able to grow extremely large in stature, without deformation, and calling them giants is a matter of perception of the observer.

~Namaste

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I have. In the little town of Moab, Utah there is a gentleman by the name of Lynn Ottinger. He is an amateur geologist and in the 70's he found a couple of skeletons that were over eight feet tall. These were sent to the University of Utah, and then returned. There were no examinations of the bones at all.

He still has theses skeletons hidden away. He really doesn't like talking about them to those he doesn't know. I have know him for years and I have seen the skeletons.

Also, there is a museum in Nevada that has skulls that are of a larger size. They were recently shown on TV and did exist. Although, there were no double rows of teeth or weird stuff like that. Just humans of a larger size than we are today.

And what would the 'hobbits' of Flores island say about us if they had become the dominate species?

Even if it's discredited as a hoax,who profits from that?Why would anyone go to such lengths to create a hoax and deceive people ,what is the agenda?

My husband and I visited an old friend of his from Cody, WY a few years ago. This guy is an extreme hunter and goes to places know one else wants to. Anyways he claimed he found a skull sticking out of a hill. He would not tell us where it was and he didn't know if he should contact any authorities or not but he had a photo of himself with it and he showed it to us. This skull was at least twice the size of a humans skull!!

I believe this photo was the REAL thing! It did not look fake at all. Take it as you want but I think they were real!