The Immigration conspiracy. Something IS happening!

All of what I write here are merely observations in my area :

We have had exactly the same here in Manchester in the UK in my area pretty much the whole of our local shopping street in this area has been taken over by a MASSIVE influx of african immigarants over the last 3- 4 years.

I notice most of the shops they open whether they are selling second hand goods or groceries etc no matter what all appear to have the money transfer services as well Western Union seems pretty popular along with others.

Before this recent influx there were NO money transfer services being offered on my local high street other than the usual services at the bank.

Now I have been stood in line many many times behind these new arrivals in the local Bank itself and have witnessed large sums of money being transfererred from one account to another I am talking thousands of pounds not a couple of grand here or there many many times.

Also along with this they seem to be able to afford New build properties straight off the plane along with some expensive cars mercs land rovers etc etc etc...... much to the consternation of the locals.

Not all but most of these immigrants dont appear to have passed the driving test which I had to pass at great personal expense £1500 at least at the time to get my licence and I watch and get held up daily as most of them are defeated by simple manouvers like DRIVING ROUND A CORNER.
I kid you not the driving standards here are now shocking and has become a common observation I frequently here being brought up in conversation by people in the area.

Then we were told by the local councillors they have to spend thousands of taxpayers money on new signs for the African shops as we locals are too racist and stupid to read their "old" shop signs apparently,
It seems to have escaped the local councils attention that people born and brought up here no matter their skin colour or background (we were well past black and white integration years ago round here BTW) have no need for strange dried bushmeats, snazzy white suits with orange pointy shoes....

I couldn't care less who comes from where, my new-ish neighbours include : polish, bulgarian, russian, Latvian,Jamaican,Romanian all of which are nice people who seem to want to learn English and just get on with thier business and integrate but local English people are constantly ignored branded as racist or bigoted in some way or form by the local politicians WHY? What is going on here where do this latest batch of Africans get all thier money from to begin with? Maybe someone can enlighten me who knows more about what is actually going on.

Originally posted by Samuelis

Now, to fininsh off. I am not racist. I am not discriminatory to African people - i am glad that they have a better place to live. I am for multiculturalism. This thread was mainly started to address the immigration problem and the subsequent cover up/conspiracy created by the Government.

Thanks ATS.

edit on 23-4-2012 by daaskapital because: Sp, eta

Firstly I find it a little bit rich an immigrant such as yourself can be complaining about too many foreigners when you yourself are clearly also. Foreign.

But.. Clearly it's these "sudanese" communites fault that they aren't generally well "accepted" by much of the white Australian community. Racism in Australia is rampant. I've heard it first hand on many occasion's from many different socio-economic settings.

This kind of muck makes us regular Australian's look bad. Don't do it.

wanker, what is a regular australian?, im part abo, what are you? a foreigner as well! D/head

reply to post by GrindsMyGears


The exact same circumstances are happening here in Australia. Perhaps this is an international conspiracy. Something strange is happening for these African immigrants to be able to move to Western countries and be able to afford expensive houses/cars/clothes.

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Regardless of your reasons for creating this thread, be prepared to be called a racist, xenophobic bigoted white extremist. It doesn't matter how logical or reasonable your arguments, there will be those who will give you these labels in an attempt to silence you and discredit your views.

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
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Regardless of your reasons for creating this thread, be prepared to be called a racist, xenophobic bigoted white extremist. It doesn't matter how logical or reasonable your arguments, there will be those who will give you these labels in an attempt to silence you and discredit your views.

I say bring it on Not the first time...

Thanks for the heads up though mate!

No matter how much one trys to emphasize equality or fareness regarding Race issues on ATS, they are almost always labelled the terms you described.

I think what people want is some explanation. where is the money coming from, I was watching a group of sudanese guys trying to roll start a 2011 model SUV down a hill, they all had fine clothes and bling on holding up traffic. they finaly gave up mounted it on the footpath got out and walked off. wtf.

Originally posted by Samuelis

Implying Immigrant.

Do you think the Aborigines were the first people here, also?

Well...

Originally posted by repeatoffender
wanker, what is a regular australian?, im part abo, what are you? a foreigner as well! D/head

Which part, the HAND or the legs?

I love how you suppose being PART aborigine makes you ABORIGINE, and not Australian.

Cant have a sook then eh?

Love your name. Hope it isn't fitting.

My cousine is Nyungar, and he never has to say "I'm half aborgine" when he's arguing with people, he can rely on his brains and merit to overcome their stupidity.

Nice bandwagon mate.

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I agree someone is doing all this by a plan of some sort, We have had waves of immigration in the UK for years and all the benefits and problems associated with such movements of people but this last 3-4 years where I am it is obvious to anyone who is not a dribbling moron that this latest dump of people has more to it than meets the norm.

The main point being the disparity between what the new africans can afford & what even working locals can afford and achieve. There is an obvious imbalnce here and as a previous poster noted they tend to keep to themselves and dont want to integrate with us, thats not our fault.

Funny this thread started as a couple of nights ago one of these African immigrants was blocking my exit from a local shop I went in to buy cigarrettes (shop is owned by a Vientnamese and Cambodian couple has been for 15 years I used to work there), I asked politely for him to move so I could pass by and he looked over his shoulder and snubbed me, at this point I lost my temper and shoved him out of the way much to his shock.

Now I'm young-ish and physically strong so it did not phase me but afterwards I thought what if that I was someone older or weaker and this guy wouldn't move out of the way how humiliated would you feel?
This is the kind of crap you put up with on a daily basis round here but of course we are just too racist and stupid to understand obviously...........
Someone is making a bucktload of cash out of all of this and by the time the apologists have realised this also the money makers will have moved on and we will be left to pick up the pieces as usual.

This is how bad it has got down under im not racist but god this is funny.
www.youtube.com...

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I am absolutely amazed that it is happening internationally. Everything you describe has been happening in my area. Last 3-4 years, exactly as you described has been when the major influx has happened. It is absolutely amazing in a way. I have never seen anything like it. I never see an African work, yet somehow they own sports cars and $400,000 houses. Some big motive is at play here for it to be international.

Originally posted by BULLETINYOURHEAD
This is how bad it has got down under im not racist but god this is funny.
www.youtube.com...

That was really bad... but ... yeah.. kids eh. Saw some idiot once telling us how glassing someone was good, .. well he got off the train quick smart. 17 year old smart arse.. lol

sadly, us old farts dont like the kids.. too many idiots. and no I'm not tryna sound like that youtube video

or... am i ?

Everyone wants to be here, but no one wants to live here. Orsum.

interesting how many Australians are here, how many claim they are not racist, and how many then make obviously racist posts and I am not talking about this thread alone, but the behavior of Australians on ATS in general

Dear Australian members, not being racist means tolerating others who are of a different race, many of you seem to have trouble with this concept. I also find it funny how many claim that they like multiculturalism, but then berate immigrants for not fitting into the Australian way of like, do those people understand that multiculturalism means multiculturalism?

Australia has a problem and its not the recent immigrants

Originally posted by BULLETINYOURHEAD
This is how bad it has got down under im not racist but god this is funny.
www.youtube.com...

and here is a perfect example of an Australian member claiming "they are not racist" and then behaving to the contrary

I don't like multiculturalism, I'm a racist under 'Political Correct' banner, but not under the 'Political Incorrect' banner.

Diversity is a recipe for tribal conflicts. Its been that way since the beginning of time. It's nature. The USA has now been 'diverse' long enough that a LOT of us can do this exercise.

Let's say.. You're living in the neighbourhood you grew up in, overwhelmingly white, high stand of living. Years pass.. And you're older and the neighbourhood starts becoming more diverse. You think, "Ah, how nice. We'll all live together" --And some other comments about magical unicorns. And the years go on, and it becomes much more diverse. There's a second-hand store or liquor store on every corner. The infrastructure is covered with more and more graffiti.

The neighbourhood becomes much more dangerous, many white people flee. Your elderly parents are stuck in this neighbourhood.. And it becomes quite clear, not even when the neighbourhood is at 50% minority population, that whites are not welcome there.

How does this benefit white-majority countries?

Saudi Arabia can implement any immigration policy it wants. If any Arab nation wants to shut down immigration, it can and no one will raise a fuss. However, if Britain or France do the same thing all the pro-immigration people will be screaming "naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews!!!"

Arab countries frequently send their Indian labourers home and no one objects but if Britain or Canada did the same thing all these anti-Whites would scream bloody murder.

Also.
- Arabs prefer Arab culture. That makes them Arab.
- Asians people prefer Asian culture. That makes them Asian.
- Europeans prefer European culture. That makes them racist.

Am I the only one that notices what's going on? No, I don't hate other colours if you had that in mind. I just hate what's happening to White countries.

I don't like multiculturalism, I'm a racist under 'Political Correct' banner

Yep, that is the problem. Racism is thrown around too much, usualy for things that are not racist. I certainly do not like multiculturalism beyond some small and unimportant cultural variation. That does not make me a racist at all, and there is nothing wrong with such a stance.

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Wow can you hear that ?
Yes! The Shrill voice of middle class white people who live in white only areas calling the rest of us Raaaaaciiist! INTOLERANT!!!!!!
This is what I would like to know also WHERE IS ALL THIER MONEY COMING FROM?

I have watched ONE local pub turned into an African church ok so what? nothing top see here move on.....
Next: I then watched as another great pub (big victorian building) closed and gutted then to open as :
First a grocery shop along with dried bush meat specials then......it closed To re-open as : a second hand goods shop ok....... Next: The second hand shop closed To open as : Ta Da another grocers with dried bush meat specials and a type of dried fish I had to google as I confess I had never heard of the particular species before.
Then.... I'll leave this space blank as in six months time it will be something else.
Follow the money thats where it all leads eventually I suppose.
All of the above shops no matter what their stated purpose seem to have one thing in common MONEY TRANSFER services its plastered all in the windows of these "businesses" along with overseas speciality mobile companies like Lebara Mobile offering dicount rates for overseas mobile calls this part I "get"but the MONEY TRANSFER Services? everywhere?

Originally posted by Nuker
I don't like multiculturalism, I'm a racist under 'Political Correct' banner, but not under the 'Political Incorrect' banner.

Diversity is a recipe for tribal conflicts. Its been that way since the beginning of time. It's nature. The USA has now been 'diverse' long enough that a LOT of us can do this exercise.

Let's say.. You're living in the neighbourhood you grew up in, overwhelmingly white, high stand of living. Years pass.. And you're older and the neighbourhood starts becoming more diverse. You think, "Ah, how nice. We'll all live together" --And some other comments about magical unicorns. And the years go on, and it becomes much more diverse. There's a second-hand store or liquor store on every corner. The infrastructure is covered with more and more graffiti.

The neighbourhood becomes much more dangerous, many white people flee. Your elderly parents are stuck in this neighbourhood.. And it becomes quite clear, not even when the neighbourhood is at 50% minority population, that whites are not welcome there.

How does this benefit white-majority countries?

Saudi Arabia can implement any immigration policy it wants. If any Arab nation wants to shut down immigration, it can and no one will raise a fuss. However, if Britain or France do the same thing all the pro-immigration people will be screaming "naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews!!!"

Arab countries frequently send their Indian labourers home and no one objects but if Britain or Canada did the same thing all these anti-Whites would scream bloody murder.

Also.
- Arabs prefer Arab culture. That makes them Arab.
- Asians people prefer Asian culture. That makes them Asian.
- Europeans prefer European culture. That makes them racist.

Am I the only one that notices what's going on? No, I don't hate other colours if you had that in mind. I just hate what's happening to White countries.

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You are an immigrant yourself, I wonder what you have done to fit into the aboriginal culture ?

probably nada

there is a thing called white privilege and Australia is full of it, your attitude is proof of it, please Google this term and try to understand what it means.

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Some people believe that we as a human race *must* all be one color. A lot of these people hold various offices. I don't adhere to that belief system and I'm deemed "racist" because of it, despite my ex-wife not being white and my child mixed.

I'm not against immigration. I think immigration adds spice to live. However, I am against the massive-immigration that's going on today. All it serves is to destroy cultures. The host countries culture and each individual culture that immigrates. Because believe it or not, not all those who immigrate want to be like the country they migrate to. Many force their belief systems down the host countries throats forcing that culture to let some of it's culture go.

For example Norway. Some banks in Norway have been called "insensitive" by various Muslim groups because they had what's known as a "sparegris" (Piggybank). This of course is offensive to Muslims so they were forced (or coerced) into replacing the standard piggybank with something "less offensive" like a cube. This example isn't that big of a deal, but it's just one little instance in the bigger scheme of things.

I've been an immigrant myself (to the U.S.). Our family didn't fly the Norwegian flag on the 4th of July. We didn't force Americans to learn Norwegian so we could continue speaking our language. We adapted. We came to *YOUR* country and we wanted to be *PART* of it. I believe that's the way it should be. Those who immigrate to another country should accept the norms of that country. What you do inside your own home isn't my problem. If you want to speak your native language between yourselves I'm all for it. But don't expect *ME* to have to learn it so I can help you.

Massive immigration is a failed experiment. I've heard it before. In fact, a couple of well known European countries have even said it.

"State multiculturalism has failed, says David Cameron" - Link

"Multiculturalism has failed, says French president" - Link

"Merkel says German multicultural society has failed" - Link

The idea that because we open our borders to 'help' everyone and that it's actually working is absurd. We're helping too few at the cost of our own nations. If we *REALLY* wanted to help, we'd ensure the countries we're wanting to help has the needs to help themselves. Like education, a police force, ending corruption etc.

Multiculturalism and mass-immigration have failed. It may not be politically correct, but it's the truth.

Originally posted by QQXXw
interesting how many Australians are here, how many claim they are not racist, and how many then make obviously racist posts and I am not talking about this thread alone, but the behavior of Australians on ATS in general

Dear Australian members, not being racist means tolerating others who are of a different race, many of you seem to have trouble with this concept. I also find it funny how many claim that they like multiculturalism, but then berate immigrants for not fitting into the Australian way of like, do those people understand that multiculturalism means multiculturalism?

Australia has a problem and its not the recent immigrants

edit on 23-4-2012 by QQXXw because: (no reason given)

The Americans aren't so perfect either mate. Just look at all the American threads hating on Israelis and Muslims/Middle Eastern people. I see threads criticising Mexican immigration in the USA, so don't come and spout your crap here.