"Huge" water resource exists under Africa

Originally posted by Leftist
Let's hope this indeed does quench the planet's thirst....for both water and for war!

There is no shortage of water on and under this planet but the thirst for war will never be quenched


Huge Underground "Ocean" Found Beneath Asia


A map depicts large areas of wet underground rock (shown in red) as detected by seismic waves. Scientists studying these waves discovered a giant "ocean" of water under east Asia that contains about as much water as the Arctic Ocean. Map courtesy Eric Chou/WUSTL

National Geographic News
February 27, 2007
A giant blob of water the size of the Arctic Ocean has been discovered hundreds of miles beneath eastern Asia, scientists report.

news.nationalgeographic.com...

First level of aquifers under the US.. (there are many levels below this but this is the one closest to the surface. If you look at GE in Florida and Louisiana on those blue areas you will see hundreds of sink holes



In fact there is so much water that we have scuba diving under Death Valley and submarine bases under Hawthorne Nevada

Here is a Nevada map of the deeper bedrock aquifer

The Central Hydrographic Region as defined by the Nevada Division of Water Resources consists of 78 groundwater basins in 12 Nevada counties (see map on this page). The Region is the largest of the Nevada's 14 hydrographic regions, covering much of central, eastern and southern Nevada. The Central Hydrographic Region is characterized by:

the absence of regional surface water flows,
groundwater basins that are often interconnected by subsurface flow,
deep bedrock aquifers, and
some productive alluvial aquifers.

www.cnrwa.com...

Originally posted by neo96
That was it i am sitting here thinking with the exist desalinization technology how will there ever be a war over water?

I do not get that.

Desalination plants provide expensive water. If you can seize control of the free supply of water and prevent the people from having access to it, they have no choice but to buy your expensive water from you.

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Makes sense with the addition of the clean water act where the Governemnt controls the land and the water and even the air now.

coke and pepsi will be making bottling plants there asap so they can suck the fossilized water dry and sell it to the population for top dollar.

And posted here, well, luck strikes the 3'rd time i guess

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Some thoughts from my thread, coincidence?

en.wikipedia.org...

The Great Man-Made River (GMR, النهر الصناعي العظيم) is a network of pipes that supplies water from the Sahara Desert in Libya, from the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System fossil aquifer. It is the world's largest irrigation project.[1] According to its website, it is the largest underground network of pipes (2820 km) [2] and aqueducts in the world. It consists of more than 1,300 wells, most more than 500 m deep, and supplies 6,500,000 m3 of fresh water per day to the cities of Tripoli, Benghazi, Sirte and elsewhere. The late Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi described it as the "Eighth Wonder of the World."[3]

And this.
www.halliburtonwatch.org...

We hope Iraq will be the first domino and that Libya and Iran will follow. We don't like being kept out of markets because it gives our competitors an unfair advantage," John Gibson, chief executive of Halliburton's Energy Service Group, told International Oil Daily in an interview in May of 2003.1

Despite these sanctions, Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root had worked in Libya ever since the 1980s. The company helped construct a system of underground pipes and wells that purportedly are intended to carry water.

I read somewhere, that the Sahara desert, used to actually be an ocean, scientist have even found seashells, and other marine fossils in the middle of the desert, I bet that there are many aquafiers underneath the ground there. If they could just dig some damn wells instead of chopping eachothers arms off, they would get a lot more out of life. And maybe there hardships could subside, and Africa could become a breadbasket for there continent, but it seems that other foreign countries have other ideas for Africa, pipelines, and mining Africas resources right from beneath there feet, its ashame

When they said there was 100 times more water than on the surface, did they mean the surface of Africa or the world?

Originally posted by ludshed
I thought this was well known and the real reason libya had to be "saved". Some more completely coincidental information, the bush's, sr and junior own over 300k acres in S. America on top of one of the largest aquifers in the world.

Yeah, this isn't new news at all. It is the reason for so much murder and corruption. Water rights have always spurred on war and corruption, all over the world.

We still wonder how on earth did Gaddafi manage to stay in power for forty years? Did no one notice his madness until now?

Did no one notice that he built a HUGE FRESH WATER PIPELINE to the Benghazi region, that lunatic?

Were they waiting for him to finish?
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This incredibly huge and successful water scheme is virtually unknown in the West, yet it rivals and even surpasses all our greatest development projects. The leader of the so-called advanced countries, the United States of America cannot bring itself to acknowledge Libya's Great Man-Made River. The West refuses to recognize that a small country, with a population no more than four million, can construct anything so large without borrowing a single cent from the international banks.(...continued)

The goal of the Libyan Arab people, embodied in the Great Man-Made River project, is to make Libya a source of agricultural abundance, capable of producing adequate food and water to supply its own needs and to share with neighboring countries. In short, the River is literally Libya's 'meal ticket' to self-sufficiency.
Self-sufficiency?!? Absolutely Not Allowed. Banksters don't like that sort of thing one bit. pkpolitics.com...

Random question based on very little understanding of the topic: Any chance an underground 'sea' like this could erupt and swallow up huge amounts of land. Seems unlikely the way the article describes it, but it's a thought...

Originally posted by Leftist

If true, this is great news for the 300 million or so Africans who currently have no access to quality freshwater. To say nothing of the hundreds of millions more who will feel the pinch as traditional sources completely run dry in the years ahead.

And...100 times the current surface amount is a lot. Could this be used to help the bone-dry Middle East or other parts of the world running critically short of water? Could Africa be poised to become the "Saudi Arabia of water"?

The coming decades have been positied as the "era of water wars," not just in Africa but all over the world. A discovery like this could go a long way to easing the stress of a thirsty planet.

I'm not sure about all of that. The article says this is a very deep reservoir of water, not one necessarily easily accessible or even potable. Further, it gos on to state that this deep reservoirs serve to lubricate the earth's tectonic plates, so drawing water from this reservoir would likely have some negative consequences.

In fact, the article states the long-term trend may indicate the surface of the earth may actually be LOSING water.

When the planet was young, steam came from the deep interior to the surface as volcanic gas and eventually produced today's oceans. But as Earth's interior ages and cools, it becomes easier for water to return below the surface.

"So, rather than degassing, now [Earth] may be losing water into the mantle," Sleep said.

This gradual suction of water back below the surface may be a good thing for Earth's geological stability, he notes. Underground water acts as a kind of lubricant that allows plates in Earth's crust to keep shifting at their present rate, Sleep explains.

This helps keep the thickness and elevation of the continents relatively stable. If things changed, he said, "we'd have Pike's Peak boat tours."

During NOAH's time there was a great flood that covered much of the earth...

or so it was rumored

Where did all that water go?

So lets say we drill thousands of wells and irrigate land for farming.

This will change the local climate and alter the ecosystem.

This will effect global climates because the upper level winds will shift.

Of course we have no way of telling just how it will effect the rest of the world, but it would.


People tend to forget the "big picture".

Not saying we shouldn't do it, just that it's much more complex than just bringing the water to the surface.

But groundwater doesn't replenish very fast in areas that don't get much rain. Logic says they would get rain if they greened up the ground, chicken and egg thing due to the increased moisture content in the air.

reply to post by Leftist

"Huge" water resource exists under Africa

Fresh water under much of the dry land masses are constantly being replenished. Here in North America, we've only tapped into about 20% of the full reserve available. The only thing is in depth and that the preferred aquifers are closer to the surface.

It's kind of like oil... once the easy stuff plays out, we are told that the wells are going dry and that we should panic as soon as possible.

Originally posted by AGWskeptic
So lets say we drill thousands of wells and irrigate land for farming.
This will change the local climate and alter the ecosystem.

yes it will... the City of Long Beach sank 26 feet from pumping out the oil. They stopped it by pumping in sea water

irrigation in the San Joaquin Valley where most of our food comes from is seriously causing subsidence. Once it sinks below sea level it will flood with the ocean from the gap at San Fransisco...


Image from USGS, 1977
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. This illustration shows how much the Valley sank from 1925 to 1977. The photograph above illustrates subsidence in the San Joaquin Valley, California. In the photo, USGS scientist, Joe Poland shows subsidence between 1925 and 1977 due to fluid withdrawel and soil consolidation

If you look at the big picture you can see how this area could easily flood if it sank enough

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That will be a very interesting day.

California has a history of poor water and land management. The Salton Sea fiasco comes to mind also.