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Originally posted by Hydroman
Just out of curiosity, have you heard what that phrase means? From what I understand, it's not talking about a literal sewing needle. There was a place in some city that had a passage way called "The Eye of the Needle" and the only way for a camel to get through it was for it to crawl through it. It was difficult, but it could be done.
Originally posted by benrl
eye of needle, Camel through it, Rich man... Nough said.
Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by grubblesnert
I might as well just state at this point that while I'll be voting republican in 2012. My ultimate fantasy is an abolition of political parties.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Love your enemies as you love your neighbors. I doubt that encompasses filling them full of lead. He doesn't need us to fulfill his judgement, he punished Sodom and Gomorah and a few other cities all on his own without the need for any man to lift a finger for him.
Originally posted by Grumble
So I am Christian myself though I have rejected organized religion, and I am generally politically liberal because of it. It seems rather impossible to me that one can study the teachings of Jesus, actually believe in them, and then be a right-winger.
So here is my question: how can you sit through bible class/Sunday school and the sermons of a man or woman of God and still agree with the Republicans on most issues? By most issues, I mean most of the following: pro-war, pro-accumulation of wealth, anti-social programs, anti-education, etc.
Originally posted by Grumble
how can you sit through bible class/Sunday school and the sermons of a man or woman of God and still agree with the Republicans on most issues? By most issues, I mean most of the following: pro-war, pro-accumulation of wealth, anti-social programs, anti-education, etc.
Originally posted by Grumble
What I hear are arguments against the very concept of income redistribution combined with attempts to use the tax coded to make the rich even richer and the poor even poorer.
How can you go to church and do all you think that is good, and say you are a believer and act like a fool the rest of the week. Come home, scream, judge people, backstab, hate, treat others like crap etc.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Grumble
how can you sit through bible class/Sunday school and the sermons of a man or woman of God and still agree with the Republicans on most issues? By most issues, I mean most of the following: pro-war, pro-accumulation of wealth, anti-social programs, anti-education, etc.
How can you call yourself a Christian and agree with the democrats on most issues? By most issues, I mean most of the following: pro-war (Obama has bombed more countries than Bush43), pro-theft (jealously stealing from those who earn more than you), anti-life (approve of painfully killing unborn children by shredding and/or by burning to death by chemicals in the womb), anti-education (approving of the BS politically correct left wing agenda the NEA puts out in the public schools ... 'social education' rather than reading, writing, math), etc etc etc ...
backatchya.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
I could be wrong, but the answer the OP is looking for may be this:
The GOP is usually against abortion.
If that is correct in general, then most Christians would be against killing innocent children.
Most Democrats would kill innocent children, according to their party platform.
My guess is that God would be against the killing of innocent life, hence
Christians would want to follow God and not kill innocent children.
Am I close?
Of course, in politics there are no clear lines, only compromises.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
You do remember that there are tares mingled with the wheat correct? Calling oneself a Christian, raising ones hands during the fast songs and quieting down during the slow songs, giving money in the offering doesn't make someone a born-again, blood washed, Holy Spirit filled Christian.
"By their fruits you shall know them."
They bash with the Book and speak when you are not around. Another thing they will throw at others, is that they are reborn.
But, it makes myself no better than them by ridiculing them. They have One to answer to, one day.
Originally posted by AshleyD
I often refer to myself as a bleeding heart conservative. lol
If one pays close attention to the Bible, Jesus' teaching in particular, they would actually notice the Bible can be VERY liberal in some cases and VERY conservative in others.
For instance, it can be liberal with things like the very accommodating treatment of political aliens being admitted into society while at the same time being very conservative with expecting aliens to fully integrate into society. It can be very liberal with the sharing of wealth while very conservative with the concept of 'If you don't work, you don't eat.' No free handouts. The list goes on and for for various issues facing us today.
I personally do not see the Bible as either democrat/republican or liberal/conservative. People who try to make it one way or the other are putting their political beliefs before their faith. Priorities need to be kept straight, IMO.
Christian's do not follow his teachings and this is why I find it hard to call myself one because IM NOT. He didn't create Christianity. They perverted his words and his teachings and I don't like that fact.