'They're killing us': world's most endangered tribe cries for help

reply to post by Gaddafi

Spot on.I was thinking about the 5 poachers that got killed in Africa hunting for Elephants and thought they kind of got what they deserved but it made me realize they are supporting their families in some way in a country where poverty means exactly that.It's the system in place that makes desperate people do desperate things.

reply to post by Xaphan


I know you are just being funny with your observation...but there's probably a justification for their big feet, they don't were shoes so it could be simply a result of their feet not being confined/molded by footwear... just a thought on my part.

Money is survival, power, and material goods. We crave those things. The solution is to find a way to provide those things without suffering. However, my beautiful socialist utopia can't happen. Like the other animals, we are violent and greedy. Perhaps we could try to override that with supernatural threats. However, religion gets used for forgiveness of our nature and for gaining power far more often than it prevents our nature.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by robhines

 

Jungles like South Americas rainforests produce the majority of the planet's oxygen, cut those down and we will all be dead in 100 years.'

This is a crime, not just robbing the jungles inhabitants of homes but some of those trees are several thousand years old.

I would like to add:
This is all a part of their plan. Make areas that they can not police inhabitable so the captives (or suvivors or what ever you want to call the NWO slaves) won't have a place to go. Make the atmosphere where it can barely support you so you can't function enough to fight.
This was the work of William Randoph Hearst and Dupont when they lied to Americans and got the government to make hemp illegal. Hemp was and still is a better paper product and sustaniable as well as renewable. Also hemp doesn't have THC in it - so the only motivation was an uncontested monoply.
As for people killing so someone can give them a dollar - you forget you are just as expendible and some hit man's family has to eat as welll. See, that logic doesn't work when it is you at the end of the barrell now does it?
The problem has always been the idol worship of the rich elite. They tell you to jump and you can't wait to say how high and then you want everyone to believe you are a free American. A free American, in theory, would never sacrifice their freedom and free will just to have a job that they could lose tomorrow by someone elses whims. But I guess that's why The American is now just a contrived theory - all you have to do is look at the reponses on this thread.

reply to post by robhines


People who have never faced poverty say that.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by robhines

 

People who have never faced poverty say that.

Like I said, I can understand their situation is a hard one. If I could go back I'd not have made the comment because it's derailed the thread to an extent and that wasn't my intention.

On the same token though, those workers could probably do their work in a place where they aren't putting one of the most endangered tribes in the world at risk, and that puts it back to what the thread should really be about.

What ever happened to the pygmies of Africa? When I was a kid they used to be in National Geographic. Did we study them into extinction like the rest? So now we have no examples of humans in their natural habitat?

I think they were nude. Certainly barefoot.

I wonder what the natural habitat of say the average American might be or have been? Warm streams where people could waddle and use the water to support their weight, maybe pick berries that grew along the river banks and fish which got caught in shallow water. And moss to walk on and sleep on and no prickle bushes. And plenty of shade. But caves wouldn't be the natural habitat because they can't see in the dark.

I worry about the Amazon too. The Marabunta! Ants. Soldier ants.And the vampire bats, and poison dart frogs, The scorpions, and piranha, and all the other horrors of the untamed jungle. Take the car and the TV and the sofa over living with banana leaves as your protection against the torrential downpours. Its already too late.

Gee, maybe if hemp paper was allowed to be grown more often then maybe we wouldn't have this rainforest depletion issue.

I think there is evidence that at one time the Amazon was farmed. Even by the Aztecs.

There are straight roads 40 feet wide, flat level and 10 feet above the jungle floor, connecting cities which were surrounded by farms. I have seen shows on it.

Also this link has some info...

Recently, about 20 different settlements have been found in the Xingu (sheenGOO) region of the Amazon. Many compare the Amazon city with others found in North America, Peru, Asia, Temperate Europe, and Africa. "This research overlaps what we're finding in Bolivia in that it shows massive transformations of the landscape through agriculture, transportation, and controlling water, using some pretty sophisticated engineering techniques," said Clark Erickson, an anthropologist from the University of Pennsylvania and the University Museum.

discoveritall.weebly.com...

Meanwhile, here in the US, waste management companies have contracted with 'sovereign' tribal entities to dump tons of toxic wastes onto reservation land.

reply to post by BASSPLYR

A Star for BASSPLYR, a very good description of a very bad situation

If nobody bought those logs there would be no market for them. We need to unite worldwide to stop these things. It is jeopardizing the integrity of our planets Eco-system. Eco=Ecology in this case, which is in direct opposition of the existing economic structure of the world. Don't blame the loggers, they are just trying to make a living. Blame the societies that buy the wood products created from these trees. Blame the Big industries that use the wood to make furniture that is built to only last a short time. Blame the people who always want new things. Blame the practice of ripping down good buildings to put up new structures if there isn't a real need to do so. Big businesses tear down existing factories so the competition can't buy them. People condemn buildings through the power of cities to keep their property values high. Without intervention mans existence will not be possible within a hundred years. I know from history that man can not control himself.

reply to post by robhines


they are not doing it for money they are clearing it and yes selling the lumber but population need space and also crops to feed the masses.

He who volunteers to be one of the 6.5 billion to meet commandment 1 of the Georgia Guide Stones please raise your hand.

Kool-Aid
Razor Blades
Viruses
War
which do you Tree Huggers what to use to set the example of how to achieve this mass reduction of population so that the world can be pristine for Grandchildren of Choice.

How many billions of years our planet exists and humans for hundreds of thousands and just now we have a problem, hummmmm, I think we have been exceptional managers so far.

reply to post by Rocketman7


one can also use their Google Earth Program to see that the Clear Cut areas are quickly Farmed, hummm, some things never change.

One Sided Idealism is the common denominator that keeps Humanity at bay.

Well, the choice is simple. We either use natural renewable material, or keep making plastics. Keep in mind that plastic is poisoning the oceans. So you have a choice, the rainforests or the oceans. Here's a better idea. How about the West stop COMSUMING and start CONSERVING. No, it is not money that is the problem, it is the consumers who use the money.
I don't feel pity for South American tribes, they are still free. I feel worse for the Native Americans in the US as they have been lied to, have their religion and culture destroyed, and relegated to "The Res". What gets me the most are people who say how evil capitalism is when they benefit from it every single day. They contribute to the system which they think is corrupt. Hypocrites!

Money rules the world...and this entire situation is like Avatar in real life

Originally posted by robhines

'They're killing us': world's most endangered tribe cries for help

www.guardian.co.uk

Trundling along the dirt roads of the Amazon, the giant logging lorry dwarfed the vehicle of the investigators following it. The trunks of nine huge trees were piled high on the back – incontrovertible proof of the continuing destruction of the world's greatest rainforest and its most endangered tribe, the Awá.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Well, a pure example of economic forces gone unchecked. There is now a need for soy and guess why they are chopping down this rainforest? So the people there can grow this soy.

reply to post by robhines


If Western countries were really serious about "global warming" and "saving the earth" they would immediately place a trade embargo on all countries that participate in the destruction of the Amazon Rainforest.

But they won't. Because they don't actually care.

Sad thing is, if you turn it from taking away a tribes homes to being the cops/military going door to door to depopulate the world in a nwo type of plan, it somehow becomes wrong to feed your family. If this tribe had a bigger gun and more people then the other guy, would it be wrong for them to defend thier home. Its just a big game of master and servant in my opinion.

Originally posted by robhines

Originally posted by Gaddafi
If cutting down a rainforest was the only way for you to earn a living then you would do it to, like it or not.

Seriously, I wouldn't.

I'd rather be out of work.

It's one thing to say that when you have food, a roof over your head and the internet.
When you have nothing.
When you are starving.
When your kids are starving.

I'd be doing anything I could to improve my situation.
If that meant me or some tribe. I'd be choosing me.