Top Ten Real Conspiracies.

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Great post JB1 , a good example that people shouldn't jump to conclusions when when brings up the subject of 'conspiracy'. I'm sure there are some more that can be added to the list, I'll have to think about that...

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and what about the original plane crash conspiracy, TWA 514.

No one talks about it much anymore, it was the original 9/11, and leads to the next ordeal, let me explain.

TWA 514

First notice the NTSB investigation comment, it says: "During the NTSB investigation, it was discovered that a United Airlines flight had very narrowly escaped the same fate during the same approach and at the same location only six weeks prior".

Let me point out that Mt. Weather VA is the location of F.E.M.A. headquarters.

look at this victim: Roscoe Cartwright US. General & 33rd Degree Freemason.

I myself was present at the time of the loading of the plane, I was almost 4 years old. My mother carried me to the bottom of the ramp, and my grandmother was beside her, we were all three supposed to go, but for some reason my grandmother lost it at the bottom of the ramp, and made my mother carry me back to the car. She told my mother that she was never coming home, and she didn't. We are the only 2 ticket-holders alive today. It was a set up, they meant to do that.

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That's why I joined ATS. I am tired of talking to myself.

Interesting, never heard of some of these.

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Nice find. Never thought Oswald was the killer. You might be interested in this.
Talk about a conspiracy that is still affecting the world.

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

Well-written, but the problem remains that the phrase "conspiracy theory" is too poisoned to be salvaged.

Technically, anything involving more than one person is a conspiracy. I've always been fond of the phrase Deep Politics, but there's a lot that doesn't begin to cover.

What about "Potential Conspiracy"? It's cautious, doesn't reach too fair, and encourages critical thinking.

Great thread, well thought out, eloquently put, and a nice topic for discussion. These are all well researched, well documented Conspiracy facts. Two that I'd add to the list are the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and John F Kennedy.

My biggest conspiracy theory that I've been holding onto for about a decade now is the murder of David Kelly, and hardly anyone ever talks about it.

My "close second" theory is the massive coverup of the true human timeline going on in the archealogical community right now. Too much stuff being found that doesn't match the "official" version of the human timeline and that just gets swept under the rug without explanation or discussion.

My "distant third" that I've come up with only recently, is that Mitt Romney hasn't been paying his full tithing to the Mormon Church, which is why he's refusing to release his tax returns.

The Tradgedy of Juilius Caesar is by far my favorite work by Shakespeare so learning a little more about the history of it is very intriguing.

Great post! It shows me that there have been many legitimate conspiracies throughout history. I do believe that many theorists fail to prove their claims because they either reach too far or go in the wrong direction. I'm sure there are many other theories that can be substantiated as well as these. But, just because there isn't conclusive evidence for its validity, doesn't necessarily mean that it is a crackpot theory.

That was a fantastic post i thoroughly enjoyed reading it,and agree with most of the reply s,People are to quick to be dismissive when the word"Conspiracy" is used in a conversation,now i can hit back with this information.

Originally posted by Egoplant
Hello, I'm new here. I can't start a topic, so I will just ask here. Can anyone recommend good conspiracy documentaries? Nothing about modern politics, 9/11 or aliens please.

That leaves ancient civilizations.

Good luck finding a docu that doesn't say aliens built it though.

Heres one I like:
Did Theodore Roosevelt have William McKinley assassinated in order to be President? Keeping in mind that the only reason they even had him as VP was to keep him out of the lime-light.

It's funny when you think about it; many of the current issues with business vs. politics vs. the people came right out of this small point in time.

It's great to see what constitutes a true conspiracy. The word "conspiracy" has become another overused buzzword to generate page views and its effectiveness has become watered down I'm many respects.

Originally posted by John bull 1
So,conspiracies have always happened and they always will and if you wish to speculate on or expose conspiracies you are simply following a well worn path first walked by men such as Tacitus and later Woodward and Bernstein and if you find reading conspiracies entertaining.

As a general comment, I'd like to add that if there is somebody, who is quite alone with his own one or multiple conspiracy theories and who is for some reason forced to learn something new about tens of different subject -- just to understand more about those conspiracies -- it might be too easy to forget how to see the world from the point of view of those, who don't have his knowledge and his abilities to see certain patterns. Thus more information might not always make one wiser in every aspect as something gets lots.

Originally posted by jprophet420
I dont know about 10, here are the top 2 )imho) from modern history:
1. The Manhattan Project
2. Pearl Harbor.

Google 1 and FOIA 2 to find out more if you're not sure.

Beat me to it.

The Dreyfus Affair is the best example I've seen so far. It included everybody and it worked.

The nuclear bomb

Pearl Harbor -- predicted in 1925 by General Mitchell

Ukraine Famine 1932. -- No contemporaneous news about it.

Operation Overlord.-- German High Command thought Patton would land at Calais

Katyn Forrest Massacre

Communist presence in FDR administration and CIA precursor OSS

Hoover started the New Deal and FDR denounced it.

British intention to invade neutral Belgium in WW1

Sons of Liberty and the Continental Congress

The Federal Reserve, the nature of money, and the role of goverment.









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HONESTLY WHAT IS TALKING ABOUT CONSPIRACIES GOING TO DO. WHY NOT GET OFF OUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THEN OUR QUESTIONS WOULD BE ANWSERD, GOVERNMENT COULDN'T STOP 500000 PEOPLE AT THERE DOOR

You place far too much faith in "history",do you understand the word propaganda because that is history,its untrue,and should be treated thus ,not used as a stepping stone for creative writing.