What have the Aliens ever done for us?

Ok not really a factual thread however, in your opinion what have the aliens actually done for humanity. Apart from getting us to start up a host of websites.

One idea being Velcro - according to start trek it was the vulcans lol.

In reality i'd say entertainment shows like star trek etc.

Any way post an idea and an argument for 'the aliens did it'.

Its not really what have they done but what they havn't done, they have not invaded us but they most likely have something to do something with the government or military

They spurred the creativity and imagination of many to create some really good movies and books

Good gawd. I can see this one spurring responses from black to white.

What have you done for an alien?

SCi-Fi in general, thanks to them I have a very large book and movie collection

well guess i'll find out how out there we are

personally i think first UFo sighting and invention of transistor being the same year is strange however i can't prove .

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
What have you done for an alien?

but i can't tell you anymore, its a conspiracy

Not that I don't already know =) I'm part reptile.

According to the sioux and hopi the Star Nation (aliens) have helped humanity to survive 3 disasters that otherwise would have killed us all. They help us because we and they (aliens) are brothers and sisters. The sioux and hopi claim there are alien blood mixed in our human blood. Or we are also aliens

This is their wiew;
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The Hopi, Sioux and other tribal traditions hold that at this point in history, we are about to transition from the current pattern of civilization to a radically-different way of living. This change is so profound that it is called the passage from the Fourth (current) World to the Fifth World! By "world", the native traditions refer to a slow gradual rise of the human population to a period of widely-shared cultural and technological high civilization. The implications of these indigenous teachings are staggering. For this means that we humans have gone through three previous Worlds, in which our ancestors rose to a peak of civilized living, only to crash back to a primitive level.

From halfway around the Earth comes additional corroborative information. Mac Ruka, a Maori spiritual teacher, has toured America at the behest of his Maori people to share their ancient history. Ruka tells of a civilization, Mu, from which the Maori came. This civilization once reached ascendancy in the Melanesian Pacific, before it destroyed itself and its island empire sank beneath the ocean. Fragmentary memory of this empire still resides in the mythic history of the West as a place called Lemuria. And what of that other high civilization, Atlantis, which the Greek philosopher Plato stated he learned about from Egyptian historians? Were Atlantis and Lemuria the Second and Third Worlds which the Native American oral histories refer to?

If our present "Fourth-World" high civilization is about to fall and be swept away, we would do well to learn from the history held by these native teachers. For, as philosopher George Santayana has said, "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." Let us examine in more detail what those master keepers of oral tradition, the Hopi, reveal about our previous Worlds. [1]

The First World was called Tokpela ("Endless Space"). The First People understood that although they had human parents, their real parents were the universal entities which had created them through their parents: Father Sun and Mother Earth. Each learned that they had two aspects: as a member of an earthly family and clan, and as a citizen of the great universe. Gradually the First People forgot to respect their creator. They began to use the vibratory centers of their body [chakras] only for earthly purposes. They began to perceive differences and separation between people and animals, and between different ethnic, linguistic and religious groups. The animals began to draw away from people. The First People began to divide up and draw away from each other. They became warlike and fought. The First World's fatal flaw, then, was forgetting the unifying Oneness of all creation.

But there were a few in every group who held to the original spiritual enlightened path. These were directed by Spirit to migrate to a special underground location. Then, the First World was destroyed by fire: volcanoes erupting and fire raining down from the sky, until there was nothing left but the few faithful people inside the Earth.

After a long time the world cooled off, and a Second World emerged. There was land where water had been, and water where land had been. When the faithful remnant emerged from underground, there was nothing to remind them of the previous wicked world.

They emerged into the Second World, Tokpa ("Dark Midnight"), a big land. The people spread across the land. They communicated telepathically. But this time, the animals stayed apart from them. As the Second World people developed material goods to barter, they became greedy, and traded for things they didn't need and became avaricious. They began to quarrel and fight, and wars broke out. The Second World's fatal flaw, then, was absorption in greed and materialism.

But again, there were a few people who kept faithful to the path of spiritual awareness. And, again, Spirit directed these people to go to a safe underground place. Then Spirit commanded the twin entities who safeguard the Earth's North and South Poles to leave their posts and stop keeping the Earth properly rotating. The Earth teetered off balance, spun around crazily, and rolled over twice. Mountains plunged into seas with a great splash; seas and lakes sloshed over the land. Then the world became cold and lifeless, and froze into solid ice.

Eventually, Spirit ordered the polar entities back to the ends of the Earth's axis. With a great splintering of ice and a shudder, the Earth began rotating again. The ice melted, and the world warmed to life.

Spirit created the Third World, Kuskurza [meaning lost over time][Mu?], arranging land and seas, mountains and plains, and all forms of life. Then Spirit sent a message to the few faithful people underground that it was time to emerge. These survivors multiplied and created great cities, eventually countries, and a whole civilization. But then they became completely occupied with their own earthly plans. They created craft shaped like a shield that could fly, and used them to fly to big cities and attack them. Soon many peoples and countries were engaged in aerial warfare. These Third People also engaged in degraded sexual practices. The Third World's fatalflaw, then, was misusing flight for aerial warfare and misusing sex for promiscuity.

So Spirit directed the few people who lived according to wisdom that they should build vessels and store food in them. Then rainwater was loosed all over the Earth. Waves higher than mountains rolled in upon the land. Continents broke asunder and sank beneath the seas.

Meanwhile, Spirit directed the faithful survivors to travel first to one, then to another island, until finally they reached the Fourth World, Tuwaqachi ("Complete World"). After they had hopscotched across the islands to arrive in the Fourth World, those islands sank into the sea.

That Fourth World is this present world we live in. The survivors spread across the broad lands, and gradually began building up the high civilizations which surround us today. Since this Fourth World is the one we have grown up in, we are aware of the behaviors of those in it. It can accurately be said that, after an initial time of fidelity to the path of wise consciousness, many have fallen into a low level of consciousness. In fact, it can honestly be stated that many people of this Fourth World have fallen into the fatal flaws of the three previous Worlds: forgetting the Oneness of all creation, sinking into greed and materialism, and engaging in promiscuity and aerial mass warfare. But we have added an additional serious element: mass destruction of Earth and its ecological systems. Thus, the Fourth World's fatal flaws are: all of the previous Worlds' ones, plus ecocide, the killing of one's own environment.

And now this Fourth World is coming to an end. Some of the signs indicating this are: extinctions of plant and animal species; poisoning of lands by toxic materials; pollution of the seas; and thinning of the upper atmosphere, "ozone holes", letting in excessive ultraviolet energy, which in turn is killing plant life, causing cancer in humans, and die-offs of phytoplankton, the source of 90%of the oxygen necessary for life. Global warming is destabilizing climates, and upsetting the ecosystems that plants, animals and humans live in.

As the Fourth World careens towards its end, a major new factor is entering the equation: a widespread series of contacts by various extraterrestrial cultures with human individuals. What are these extraterrestrials communicating when they make contact? They express grave concern for how we are killing our planet and therefore ourselves. Their concern extends to the warfare we are almost continually engaged in, and the other forms of violence going on: including people allowing whole populations to die of starvation or disease, while affluent countries stand by. The ETs want us to take responsibility and turn these situations around, before it is too late.

But the extraterrestrials also have come to make us aware that we are not alone; and that our rightful place is to be participants in the larger, cosmic family of intelligent peoples spread across the universe. But first we must eliminate our fatal flaws and reorder our lifestyle. We must live with consciousness of our oneness with all creatures, and with the Creative Source. We must lay aside our greed and materialism, and learn to live more simply and without undue attachments. We must reject promiscuity, and exercise love with consciousness of the sacredness of sexuality. We must set aside aerial mass warfare, and begin to settle differences by diplomacy, by setting good example, by positive peer pressure, and by empowering all peoples. We need to start treating Earth and its ecosystems like our Mother, with respect and cherishing.

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The aliens also help with understanding;

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The conference convener, Standing Elk, began with a presentation of the interpretation of Star Nations (extraterrestrial) symbols found amid the wreckage of the Roswell/Corona UFO. He explained how he and other native helpers gained knowledge of the meaning of eleven of the
"Roswell" symbols, plus an additional ancient Lakota symbol derived from the Star People.
During inipi (sweat lodge) ceremonies, extraterrestrials would enter the lodge and provide interpretations. Each of the eleven ET symbols has a meaning as a Universal Law (natural principle accepted across galaxies). When rotated a quarter-revolution, each symbol also signifies a corresponding Spiritual Law, likewise applicable universally. One by one, the Lakota Elder elucidated the 23 symbols:

the Universal Law of Free Will/Spiritual Freedom of Humanity,
the Seasons of the Earth/Growth Stages of Humans,
the Spirit Enlivening All Creatures/Path of Health and Happiness,
the Law of Innocence and Truth/Spiritual Protection Responsibility,
Human Separation from Creatures/ Spiritual Equality of Life Forms,
the Creator-Human Connection/Choice of Power-Over or Being a Human Being,
Law of Light, Sound and Vibration/Spiritual-Psychic Gifts,
Law of Judgment/Law of Karma,
Law of Nature/Law of Protection through Directness,
the Joyful Essence of Life/the Doctoring Force,
Law of Natural Perception /Law of Spiritual Perception,
the Universal Laws of Family Relationships.

What have you done for an alien?

Well, not 2days ago, I help my friendly intergalactic martian wash his ufo. Takes a bit of getting used to him peeing out of his index finger but he's a good bloke. Not really into his weird anal probe fetish though

interesting Ghaeleer can believe the about to destroy ourselfs again bit.
And lordgoofus true to your name ever thought of going on the stage?

Well, supposedly, velcro, (although a British scientist has the patent on that one) micro chip tech, fiber optics, and now "morphing metals." So that would be the upside. On the other end (no pun intended) rectal probing, paranoia, radiation poisoning, etc. Although some of the "bad" stuff we already do to ourselves. what will crop up next? (oh yeah, crop circles!)

[edit on 27-9-2004 by Der Kapitan]

Perhaps what aliens have done for us could be summed up in the notion that a "proof of concept," exists, namely those visual fields we call flying saucers. Beyond that when we have captured flying saucers, and that we have already derived technology basically only scraping the surface of those possibilities, we realize a great deal in those open potentials.

A thrust of historical depth indicates our incessant need as a commons to vanquish tendencies toward elitist tyranny. Few people have always by cleverness and stealth managed by superstition and ignorance, to "rule," over many others. The means in that technology, a knowledge for good or ill works is an everpresent setting of the thresholds of a new and vibrant political science, a political future comprising an implemented overall health of a broad based human condition.

What space aliens have done for us is to set a benchmark, where comprehensive human knowledge meets actual tasks at hand, not political fictions. Is technology any better than life in the jungle, when civilized people are ostensibly worse off than Amazon natives in its grasp? Those native peoples are in some ways far more healthy than we are as a quality of mind. They exploit but do not abuse nature.

The issues therefore of technology, and the myth and/or fact of the space alien "presence," if you will, exists an underlying theme of possibilities mostly in technology. The absence of ethical standards in the alien myth is curiously the same kind of "professional detachment," that characterizes the worst of what human beings have done historically with so called "science."

Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand, and you see it with the Orwellian contradictions manifest daily in the news.

What they have done for us, and this is my argument, is alert us to the dangers of allowing technology to "rule," and to do so from brutish arrogance. The fallout from that is for us to work as hard and smart as we can to solve the techno-political gap, the normative-substantive gap, the quest to implement an operating civilization. So far our technology and theirs has been expropriated by people whose outcomes are worse than that of savages they disdain. It is up to us to counter that with a benign view based upon perception, not self centered "decisions," alone.

Excellent post. I wish I'd thought to say that, because it's valid line of thought. Cool avatar to boot.

Maybe mediceins and advances into phycology tecnholgy. No one can really say i wouldn't think.

imo some medical problems like AIDS BSE could be linked to aliens as some other members have mentioned in the past. Although why they would do something like that puzzles me.

They have made us find ways to waste billions of dollars on experiments ie SETI/Voyager when that money should have been used to educate millions of under privileged humans.
Given people a way to think they are special or a avenue to claim abductions, fuelled millons of debates.
They have helped governments play mind games on everyone that believes in their existence.
I suppose the notion of them has expanded our minds that we may not actually be alone.
Not made us visit the moon for nearly 30 years!!!!

Hard to gauge... hmmmm.

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[edit on 29-9-2004 by Mistamash]

They've taught us the merits of pregnancy testing and colonoscopy!

MK

Is it true that aliens as from the beginning of next month must get their photos taken [clearly] and be fingerprinted?