Can the following be ommitted from every post?

"Mods-sorry if this is in the wrong place, please feel free to move"

Why has this become part of posting a thread? Why do so many people think they need to give the mods permission to do anything with their post? Once you post something, it isn't yours anymore. It belongs to ATS. I'm pretty sure the mods will move your thread if it needs to be moved. You don't need to tell them it's ok.

Hate to sound condescending, but jeeze it's the first thing I see in almost every single thread I read. It's getting old. Please make them stop.

reply to post by ZeroReady


Mod-a-phobia noun - An innate fear of being moderated on a message board.

Mods, please note there is no source available for this as I made it up.

reply to post by ZeroReady


Agreed. Being polite is fine, but to me those who say that look like they are ass-kissing the mods, or worse, preemptively begging forgiveness from their masters for potentially making a paltry mistake.

Just post the damn thread... the mods will do whatever they want regardless

reply to post by ZeroReady


In all seriousness, I believe members merely do so as an act of courteousness. In that, Mods can have to deal with a great deal of tension and otherwise negative feedback from members when they do their modding.

I think people begin their threads as such to give an "it's quite okay if you have to moderate accordingly".

That and with some topics being on a fine line in regards to the multiple forums available, sometimes, it can be difficult for some to choose the correct forum. Personally, I have been here long enough to know it'll be moved regardless, nonetheless, I feel it's just a courtesy thing.

reply to post by ZeroReady

I think it's more a respect thing by letting Admin people know that you are aware your topic is a bit shakey for location and they ought to feel free to move it without first weighing the hassle vs. need issue with a user going bananas about the thread being moved. I've never had anyone who really should have, say that at the site I volunteer at for forums. I'd actually consider it as being the respect issue I describe If someone there ever did. Just being friendly, is how I see it.

reply to post by UberL33t


Exactly!

We get many thread starts which are often 'topically-misplaced'.

That some members include such a notice in their opening posts demonstrates their uncertainty with regards it being in the appropriate forum.


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with regards some of the previous comments:

No need to rag on folks merely questioning themselves or their judgement at times

Shouldn't we all be doing that?

I have a different take. If you want to post a thread, you should really think about what forum it belongs in. You need to, out of conscience, have already read the forum list on ATS. You should know where your thread goes.

Ok, so there are new folk. When you have a thread, BEFORE you post it, send a simple u2u to a mod, and ask if the forum you've picked is appropriate. They ALWAYS answer. As you learn how ATS works, get used to talking to the mods, and get to know them. Ask them questions. I have, and every mod I've talked to has sufficiently answered my questions. I asked an SMOD once about profanity on ATS, and the answer I got covered absolutely every aspect of allowable words, and why certain words are sometimes skipped, and others are instantly post wiped. Since then, I have learned to tailor my ATS language to use darn, and butt, and more acceptable terms, because their job is to enforce the T&C. I'm not going to let my own ignorance make another person's job harder, so I respect the mods when they do what they do. I have sent u2u responses, in the past, to ask about a mods actions, and they always explain it in a rational manner, always quoting their stance on the T&C.

Most people don't understand the T&C's, and the reasons for them, until you read the WITD episode from the past. Try "WITD" into search, and read about it. After that chaos, ATS solidified into the entity that accepts no bovine fertiizer. That episode in the ATS archives is what made and make the mods into what they are today. I agree 100%. It's reading all that past that let's me understand why the mods are the way they are. It's the way it should be.

I like the "strictness" on ATS, yet I sometimes push the envelope. There is still a thread in the complaint forum that can't be decided upon. I'll wait, and forget, then in six months bring up the issue again.

Before you ask the mods to move a thread, just ask them what they think. Much easier.

They can be your friends. Learn the mods on ATS, their personalities, and you'll see they are all very caring people, just like you and me.

Which leads to another question....not be be off-topic, so a new thread is in order.....

I've always found them to be very helpful hence it goes both way - if we can make the job more smooth running then .........

I don't think this is a valid complaint at all Op - but the beauty of ATS is that every one is entitled to their opinion - unless of course it really upsets folks or breaks the rules.

Guilty......
Thanks for the laugh!!!

PLPL

reply to post by ZeroReady


Less caffeine perhaps? I've seen that now and then, but certainly not in every post. You must be upset about other things.

you forgot about also omitting the quote
that usually follows or precedes the Op's quote

" not sure if this has been posted already, used the search and nothing came up"

guilty

I've seen a lot of them that should start:
If you feel this opening post is crap, please contact a Mod., and ask them to delete it.

Note to Mods.:
If you feel my comment is inappropriate, please delete it.

See ya,
Milt

Can't speak for others, but when I have put it, it's because the topic at hand could fit into a few different forums. I picked the one I felt was best for it, but just to let mods know I wasn't gonna go ape# about it if it was moved. I have seen that before lol.

Well my take on it is more aligned with the posters doing that than it is with ATS. Like why would so many feel the need or motive to do so? Did they get corrected already?

I've had a thread or 2 moved, went to check on it and ended up having a hard time finding it (was before learning my way around here better)... then got a message that sounded harsh as though I had done something wrong. And to top it off I had posted it in the forum I felt it best fit with the discussion I had intended to start. After it got moved its audience was shifted away from the audience I'd wanted too. It was a while ago... it might have been something like "Political Issues" intended shiftend to something less current like "General Conspiracies". Whatever it was it definitely FELT like both the thread and I lost something while I also felt it was implied I'd done something wrong/bad/poorly. And since I didn't agree it lowered my the points ATS has in my POV among blog sites.

So now if I submit a thread - its more of a given that it may get moved and there's only a 70%'ish chance of having the discussion I intend to start. Of course that's typical of blog conversations anyway... but seems a lower chance on ATS than many others.

Originally posted by TKDRL
Can't speak for others, but when I have put it, it's because the topic at hand could fit into a few different forums. I picked the one I felt was best for it, but just to let mods know I wasn't gonna go ape# about it if it was moved. I have seen that before lol.

I agree entirely with you on this. I post a lot and I'm very active across a wide variety of forums here but I start few threads of my own. When I do though, it's almost always a tough one to pick which forum to place it in. ATS has so many forums that collectively cover almost everything, that the overlap is definitely there.

Heck... It's at least a couple times a month I see a dispute about duplicate posts and the fact that dupe topics can exist across completely different forums. The fact that policy exists says a lot about the overlapping nature of things... I think you speak for a majority in noting that aspect of the forums here.