TSA installs undercover agents on Texas busses

Anyone still think that the US isn't closing in on the citizens? Still think that nasty old "Police State" label is just fear mongering? Think again.

Ride a bus, get a pat down. Sit at a bus stop, get questioned. This is about as invasive as it gets folks. People are no longer free to walk or ride in their own neighborhoods without being accosted by these power mad puppets.
TSA installs undercover agents on Texas busses
http://(nolink)/2012/04/18/tsa-instal ls-undercover-agents-texas-busses-122081/

Under the program launched last week, passengers on busses run by the Houston METRO system will be subjected to random questioning and searches from “counter-terrorism experts” hired by the Transportation Security Administration. Yes, the very same TSA that has become notorious for invasive pat-downs at airports across the country are opening up a new front in their war on privacy, and it’s on Houston’s public busses.

You will obey! You will submit to checks and questioning! You will bow down to us! Random bag checks, dogs....hmmm? Where have I seen this before? Oh, that's right...WW2 Germany and the Nazis. Dogs and all.

Riders of the Houston METRO won’t be waiting in line for security checkpoints like they do before boarding flights, though. According to the press release, authorities will “ride buses, perform random bag checks and conduct K-9 sweeps, as well as place uniformed and plainclothes officers at Transit Centers and rail platforms to detect, prevent and address latent criminal activity or behavior.” Both local police and undercover TSA agents will be carrying out the city-wide searches.

Love this comment:

“If you think you’re going to be a bad actor on buses, get ready. You are going to have a short-lived time frame,” Congresswoman Jackson Lee explained.

And why would I say it's a Police State?

And if you think you’re safe from this scrutiny by being outside of Houston, think again. The Metropolitan Transit Authority of Harris County say the searches starting in Houston are part of a national pilot program. BusSafe, it says, may be introduced in cities from coast-to-coast.

Keep thinking it's all about your safety folks. And remember: "If you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear"

Riiiight...

Peace

"Papiere bitte?"
(Papers please?)

ETA In Holland ID cards are now compulsory and its a 50 eurodollar fine if you can't show the card when asked for by LEO's. Does that really sound much better? I think maybe it does. The only people inspecting public transport here are people making sure you have a valid ticket. Scary days in America.

wow, as an houston native i gotta say this is complete overkill, really dont see the need for random pat downs and searches. there is not really alot of bus crimes down here so the "bad actors" statement she made really makes no sense and holds no merit.

Here we go. Gonna be good times ahead as they "find trouble before it happens."

I can't wait for them to run into this guy with their "random questions and searches"...

Originally posted by kingtr3y
wow, as an houston native i gotta say this is complete overkill, really dont see the need for random pat downs and searches. there is not really alot of bus crimes down here so the "bad actors" statement she made really makes no sense and holds no merit.

It also says in the article that the buses are safe as they are so why the need for upping the security?

I don't believe it's for security at all actually. Just another in-road to the Police State.

Peace

i'm in fort worth and this pisses me off.

were the frogs in the pot and they are slowly turning up the heat.

why are we so complacent?

the nazi's were looking for those evil terrorist jews. the tsa are looking for those evil terrorist muslims.

it's clearly taken from nazi playbook 101.

Overkill? You say that now, but the first time a suicide bomber gets on a bus and kills dozens, you will be the first to be pissed at the government for doing nothing.

Originally posted by amongus
Overkill? You say that now, but the first time a suicide bomber gets on a bus and kills dozens, you will be the first to be pissed at the government for doing nothing.

Too much Kool-Aid for you. Stop drinking it or it'll rot your brain.

This ain't about terrorists. Never was.

Peace

Sheila Jackson Lee is the biggest tool in the bag.

How and why do we elect these idiots?

Originally posted by amongus
Overkill? You say that now, but the first time a suicide bomber gets on a bus and kills dozens, you will be the first to be pissed at the government for doing nothing.

I think I can speak for the majority in saying that we'll take our chances without the government's hands down our pants. Thanks though.

We really are more likely to die from a champagne cork than from a terrorist, look up those stats.

ETA- Here's more dangers to our American lives, better get TSA on these too...

On average, 100 people choke to death every year on ball-point pens. And beware of toothpicks. They are the objects most often choked on by Americans.

You are more likely to be killed by a champagne cork than by a poisonous spider.

You are more likely to be killed by a donkey than in a plane crash.

200 people a year die in avalanches.

A total of 55,700 Americans are injured each year by jewellery.

The odds of a terrorist incident in the last decade are 1 in 10,408,947. By contrast, the odds of being struck by lightning are about 1 in 500,000. You could board 20 flights per year and still be less likely to be the subject of an attempted terrorist attack than to be struck by lightning.

Originally posted by amongus
Overkill? You say that now, but the first time a suicide bomber gets on a bus and kills dozens, you will be the first to be pissed at the government for doing nothing.

Sorry,but I have to disagree with you.

A Suicide bomber could easily kill himself ANYWHERE,there is people.
There is NEVER going to be enough security,unless you have a Totalitarian State,or Police State.

Can a terrorist not afford to buy a car?

Or do they just come up with whatever money they can to make homemade bombs and stuff?

Originally posted by JibbyJedi

Originally posted by amongus
Overkill? You say that now, but the first time a suicide bomber gets on a bus and kills dozens, you will be the first to be pissed at the government for doing nothing.

I think I can speak for the majority in saying that we'll take our chances without the government's hands down our pants. Thanks though.

We really are more likely to die from a champagne cork than from a terrorist, look up those stats.

And all it takes is ONE incident pal. ONE. This isn't like a tornado, or a robbery which happen all the time....but when a terrorist attacks and the govt didn't have a plan in place, you better bet they will face hell for not having a contingency or plan already in place.

Are you that blind not to realize this?

Edit your post all you want....all it takes is ONE incident for it to be plastered all over the MSM, and the finger pointing begins.

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Going by your paranoid "logic", they say 1 in 100 people are clinically insane. "Maybe" you are one of those in 100 people, I don't know, we don't know.... so just in case, we should detain you indefinitely until we can determine 100% that you are not a threat to any of us.

Seriously.... better to be safe than sorry right?

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Where does the article say you will be detained? Did you bitch about the increased security measures launched at airports?

I'm not insane buddy...I'm just pointing out the obvious.

What do you say to my one incident scenario? You can't defend your stance against it because your logic is flawed.

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by amongus
Overkill? You say that now, but the first time a suicide bomber gets on a bus and kills dozens, you will be the first to be pissed at the government for doing nothing.

Sorry,but I have to disagree with you.

A Suicide bomber could easily kill himself ANYWHERE,there is people.
There is NEVER going to be enough security,unless you have a Totalitarian State,or Police State.

edit on 18-4-2012 by sonnny1 because: (no reason given)

It's NOT about not killing people...it's all about the perception that the government had measures in place to cover their asses to get re elected......that is my point.

Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by kingtr3y
wow, as an houston native i gotta say this is complete overkill, really dont see the need for random pat downs and searches. there is not really alot of bus crimes down here so the "bad actors" statement she made really makes no sense and holds no merit.

It also says in the article that the buses are safe as they are so why the need for upping the security?

I don't believe it's for security at all actually. Just another in-road to the Police State.

Peace

I was on a bus Interstate from Texas through California less than two years ago. They have many checkpoints you have to go through and at every checkpoint the bus is boarded by government people (I think it is department of homeland security but not sure) and everyone they ask (they do not ask everyone only brown people) has to show identification. If they are not happy with your identification they pull you off the bus and arrest you, if you refuse to provide identification they arrest you.

This was not much different from what I know in the middle east, perhaps a little more polite only. This was the only time I have seen this since coming to the United States, but if you are traveling in the southwest of America this is what happens, they have random checkpoints for all vehicles to pass through also that are not limited to buses only.

They say it is because of illegals they do this.They ask questions like where are you coming from and why are you going somewhere and where are you going to and for what purpose, even if your papers and identification are in order.

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Still,these are Totalitarian Laws,hellbent on depriving Americans of their Liberty's.

Putting those good Agents,on the border,holding hands,so illegals don't come across? Asking for their documents? I am all for it.

reply to post by amongus

Where does the article say you will be detained? Did you bitch about the increased security measures launched at airports?

The article didn't, Obama's NDAA says it though. Go read it sometime.
And yes I bitched about the airport scanners and groping, I was even on Alex Jones show as a caller talking about it all, especially the scanners' terahertz waves damaging DNA. So yeah, I'm outspoken.

Life is not a guarantee of safety. We have to take personal responsibility and risks in this life, and the government's job is not to hold our hands and grab our groins wherever we go to make sure we're safe. Those exploding elderly and young baby's diapers that the TSA found sure did save our lives.