"The fishermen have never seen anything like this..." Gulf seafood deformities alarm scientists

i keep seeing all those ads sponsored by BP to "come on down to louisiana and have a good time", all the while showing people smiling, on the beach, and in restaurants eating seafood...i simply don't buy any shrimp or fish anymore that comes from the gulf, and yes i do ask, and yes the grocery stores here in calif. will actually show you the documentation, the good ones anyway. they do not even want to carry it in their stores. now, if you go to a wal-mart..........

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Natures answer to disaster is mutation/adaptation. A little oil won't hurt, it will just provide an asphalt layer within the mud layers. In 20-30 years you would be hard pressed to find any evidence of the spill at all. You should be more concerned with the methane out gassing happing all over the world.

"Gimme a threshold, gimme a specific point... at which you'll finally take a stand. If you can't or won't gimme that threshold, why not?"

between BP uncappable oil leak (now 2 yrs and flowing), the mutagenic Corexit that's made things only worse,

and Japan's Fukushima disaster.

Total's recent North Sea & Nigerian leaks....

human have focked up the environment for hundreds of years to come!

everyday its a NEW disaster to add to the others..



Petrobras sonic oil scouting continues killing thousands

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Only after the last tree has been cut down, Only after the last river has been poisoned, Only after the last fish has been caught, Only then will you find money cannot be eaten. ~ Cree Prophecy

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
This is disturbing and sickening, but not surprising. When the EPA told BP to stop dumping corexit, BP said no, and continued to do it. The EPA sat on its hands and let them.

Proof positive that these alphabet agencies are owned by private corporations, and do nothing for the benefit of the people who pay for their existence.

The other day my husband and I went to a local restaurant. They had a special on rib eye steak and shrimp. My husband asked the restaurant owner where the shrimp came from. The guy just shrugged his shoulders and said he didn't know. I refused to order the shrimp because we're in Texas, and I figure any shrimp we get is Gulf shrimp.

My husband ate the shrimp. I showed him this thread and now he is freaked out. He's imagining that he ate eyeless shrimp with tumors and lesions, nicely breaded up and deep fried.

the last few times i have had shrimp i have felt ill.........

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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Only after the last tree has been cut down, Only after the last river has been poisoned, Only after the last fish has been caught, Only then will you find money cannot be eaten. ~ Cree Prophecy

most people already know this you don't really need a prophecy to tell you this. If you are referring to those (example BP) who do all that is mentioned there then i hate to break it to you. they know they cannot eat money already.. they just do not fricken care.

money is a drug like meth, heroin.. crack... smoking .. they know it will end up killing them with every fix they score because of all they have to destroy to get it.. the thing is they do not care.

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Whats really messed up is that you have to goto sources outside the US for news stories of whats going on in the US!!!!

Remember folks the federal government say gulf seafood is safe!!!!

I don't know what we expected - for this spill to not have any consequences? That's how the govt is acting. It just isn't possible. You can't disturb an ecosystem that badly and get off scot-free.

Al Jazeera has been reporting on worldwide issues for a few years. Their investigative journalism is far better than any televised news in the US that I can think of. Get on YouTube and look for some Al Jazeera specials - hour long documentaries on various topics. They cover stories in all different countries. I think they do a great job but judge for yourself.



In fall of 2004 Hurricane Ivan caused perhaps up to 26 wells (maybe more that have since been repaired) to leak, and this wasn't discovered (at least by people who didn't operate the wells) until they were investigating the BP Oil Spill in the summer of 2010. Platform 23051 has created a visible oil slick, and apparently no one noticed.. At the time it was "discovered" it had already been leaking for nearly six years. You can't tell me people were flying into and out of these platforms for SIX YEARS and no one noticed.

Who is watching the people that should be watching these wells?



I too have thought about how the GOM/BP spill and Fukushima are going to make some corporations a whole ton of money. On top of these there have been numerous oil spills around the world that came after BP - they just weren't in our front yard so we Americans either didn't hear about or didn't care about them.

There was the Nigerian Oil Spill courtesy of Shell.

There was the Rainbow Pipeline Spill in Canada.

There was the Kalamazoo River Oil Spill where people were advised to evacuate because of dangerous levels of BENZENE were found in the air..

So whether by design or not, we're being pretty effectively poisoned - and people wonder why we see cancer and autism and learning disabilities and other chronic health problems increasing at alarming rates. I'm sure this is at least a small piece of the puzzle.



For a more comprehensive list:

en.wikipedia.org...



ETA: After the BP Spill I only ate wild caught Pacific Fish, farm raised, and local trout. Now I only eat farm raised fish and local trout. I wonder how long I have until I can only eat farm raised fish.

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It's not a prophecy now so much as words of wisdom.

By my location name it should have been clear to you I already know they don't care.

You joined about a month ago evidently haven't read any of my other posts..............another troll?

Just a question to the other posters. I am one cat shy of being a cat lady. About 9-10 months ago I noticed they won't touch any of the fish/seafood cat food they used to love so much. I have since quit buying it. I know cats have been known to be picky but one cat is 12 and the other 9 and this is the first time I have seen them protest like this. Several times I left the stuff down all day and didn't offer them anything else and they still wouldn't touch it. Now I feel like a jerk for trying to force them to eat something they knew was not right.

Originally posted by Ladysophiaofsandoz
Just a question to the other posters. I am one cat shy of being a cat lady. About 9-10 months ago I noticed they won't touch any of the fish/seafood cat food they used to love so much. I have since quit buying it. I know cats have been known to be picky but one cat is 12 and the other 9 and this is the first time I have seen them protest like this. Several times I left the stuff down all day and didn't offer them anything else and they still wouldn't touch it. Now I feel like a jerk for trying to force them to eat something they knew was not right.

I really wouldn't be surprised if the fish and shrimp being caught that humans would not eat because of obvious mutations/damage would be used for pet food. Especially if the EPA and FDA are giving this seafood a "safe for human consumption" seal of approval. Worth looking into.

Where's the U.S. media on this???? Oh yeah, there to busy covering way more important things like the MEGA MILLIONS WINNERS!!!! sheesh. All I know is that I won't be eating seafood unless I know exactly where it came from.

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And don't forget what churchianity espouses:

Man was meant to use up the earth and give a hoot about resources and the environment, because when the second coming is coming, all the "saved" souls are going to heaven and all the "damned" are staying here and then god is going to destroy the world anyway.... so who cares?

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Does anyone else remember this?
During the spill clean up they released a genetically modified "bacteria" !

Remember SYNTHIA?

The work to create the first synthetic bacterial cell was not easy, and took this team approximately 15 years to complete. Along the way they had to develop new tools and techniques to construct large segments of genetic code, and learn how to transplant genomes to convert one species to another. The 1.08 million base pair synthetic M. mycoides genome is the largest chemically defined structure ever synthesized in the laboratory

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There’s a reason the so-called “dispersants” are guarded by weapon-yielding soldiers and local armed law enforcement in warehouses and deployment yards along the Gulf coast. If a sample were to be analyzed by knowledgeable people, the biological and chemical anomalies it contains would be made public, right down to the unique DNA signature. BP keeps allowing their sorcerer’s brew to be called Corexit in order to hide the fact that it’s not just the name brand product any longer.

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The work to create the first synthetic bacterial cell was not easy, and took this team approximately 15 years to complete. Along the way they had to develop new tools and techniques to construct large segments of genetic code, and learn how to transplant genomes to convert one species to another. The 1.08 million base pair synthetic M. mycoides genome is the largest chemically defined structure ever synthesized in the laboratory

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Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, who leads the government's relief effort, said in June, “We're no longer dealing with a large, monolithic spill. We're dealing with an aggregation of hundreds of thousands of patches of oil that are going in a lot of different directions.” He noted that while cleaning up the oil spill on the surface will go on for a couple of months after the well is plugged, long-term issues of restoring the environment and the habitats will take years.

Bioremediation may have some role to play in that restoration provided the cure isn’t worse than the disease. The former approach was used as part of the cleanup effort after the Exxon Valdez spill. The addition of bacteria has been less successful. Bioremediation involves using microorganisms or their enzymes to return environments altered by contaminants to their original conditions. In the case of oil spills multiple techniques may be used, including the addition of nutrients to the environment to enhance and facilitate crude oil decomposition by specific bacteria or the introduction of oil-eating bacteria.
The company grows the microbes in proprietary continuous cell culture vessels to select microbes that have higher proliferation rates under specific conditions. The innovation behind Evolugate’s continuous culture vessels is that they are engineered to prevent microbes from sticking to the walls, a common strategy by which microbes evade selective pressure in other continuous culture technologies.

The Evolugate technology works via partial dilution: As a culture grows and becomes saturated, a small proportion of the grown culture is replaced with fresh medium, allowing the culture to continually grow at close to its maximum population size. Thomas Lyons, Ph.D., principal research scientist and board member of the firm, told GEN that in adapting the microbes for the Gulf oil spill, “we add more microbes every day to bolster genetic diversity.

“When we first started the culture we saw a die-off, and we expected that the dispersants and oil in the Gulf water-containing medium would kill some microbes. But after one week we saw a huge increase in cell density suggesting that adaptive variants arose. Within two weeks we already have robust growth on oil samples taken from the Gulf.

“The beauty of what we do is that we have built in evolutionary trade-offs: The longer the microbes spend evolving to the oil the less robust they become under other conditions. Once the oil is gone they will lose their competitive advantage and will no longer survive in that environment.”

Dr. Lyons noted that producing such designer microbes through genetic engineering would be hard to pull off. Oil is so full of complicated substances that jamming all the genes needed to digest and metabolize it into a single microbe and then expecting it to reproduce and flourish might be asking too much, he said. Experimental evolution, on the other hand, simultaneously changes metabolic capabilities as well as optimizes growth rates.

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It is really clear, expecially here:

He also pointed out that right now the company’s proposal to select and introduce designer oil-eating microbes into the Gulf is in BP’s hands. “It’s in their pipeline, but we are not waiting for a response. We know our approach stands the best chance to make bioremediation work, and we are proceeding accordingly. .......To underscore Dr. Lyons’ point, while there are four oil eaters in this bacterial genus, each uses a different component of the oil as its food source and they all compete with one another when added to the same oil sample. In 1981, Dr. Chakrabarty received a patent on a genetically modified Pseudomonas bacterium that would eat up oil spills, the first patent of its kind; he was the first person to win a patent on a living organism. ”

THE GULF BLUE PLAGUE: Its Not Wise To Fool Mother Nature
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There was a thread on ATS by Pax here:
Think You Know Everything About The Gulf Oil Spill? Well Think Again! Prepare To Be Rocked To The Core

Originally posted by loam
I think it's very spooky you can pull up 400 pounds of deformed shrimp in one catch!

Really? Do you not understand exactly how much oil went into the Gulf AND the Atlantic Ocean? This was the biggest man made disaster on the face of the earth. The Gulf is done. The effects of what happened will only start to be seen visually. What happened there started a chain reaction that WE can't stop. The only thing that can be done now is hope mother nature can fix what they broke. The chemicals involved in the "cleanup" didn't do any good either. Wait until all that sunken oil resurfaces. It's not a matter of if, but when...and where.

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Everyone is screaming deformities, I am screaming evolution.

With the massive BP oil spil, the thing probably grew that shell over its head so if it ran itno contaminated water like that it would some what sheld it.

And if they cleaned it up like they said they did, (:@@, the evolution would probably lose it again. And the things on its side it grew might just be obsorbers like a filter , like our liver. maybe they needed to grow more or something. Or it just could very well be tumors or cancer. We may never know.


The weird thing about it is, even though nothing will ever come of my random post on this obscure webpage which will eventually be lost never to be viewed upon or read after today or tomorrow. I just cant help but comment on it.

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It is horrific that we have to be told the truth by Al Jazeera.....Here's another truth that is being kept from us....the high human infant mortality rate...and the huge miscarriage rate...in Louisiana since the spill....I am sad to say that my own grandchild-to-be was a victim....and, since that awful time, I have looked into this....I have bee greatly saddened to learn that the entire Gulf Coast was poisoned....and the people were left to die in it....

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mu·ta·gen n.

An agent, such as a chemical, ultraviolet light, or a radioactive element, that can induce or increase the frequency of mutation in an organism.

You're definitely getting mutations now but they are unwanted, unnatural, and unhealthy. There are a lot more fish with negative mutations reproducing than there normally would be, and not only passing on their bad genes but putting their offspring back into the same toxic environment.

This isn't evolution, it's extinction. Shrimp with no eyes and weakened shells.