Why are there no other country's military bases in the US??

Because they dont want to pay the rent. Its cheaper to station others at our bases for "training" and etc ( as mentioned previously in this thread concerning the German mil) than to pay the rent for a base. Not to mention we dont need them. We pay BIG BUCKS to countries where we maintain bases even when they do NOT need our protection. Many of our bases are placed where they are for strategic reasons.. and the country knows it and charges appropriate "rent" for a desirable location. .

Originally posted by gunshooter
NORAD is probably as close as you would get to having a foreign power in the US. at least every two years that is.

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NORAD is not the same NORAD as old. Majority of the function of NORAD have been moved out to surrounding areas in CO. Forget the movie War Games or what most people think of NORAD....it just is not that anymore...

US military bases, at least in Colorado have a LOT of foreign military working here. Buckley AFB has a very LARGE presence of Australians, Brits, Canadians and Germans. And that is not the only base.

I don't think many realize how much the US literally works side by side with foreign military on a daily basis....don't think many realize the amount of foreign military working on US soil hand in hand with us...it is a LOT.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by gunshooter
NORAD is probably as close as you would get to having a foreign power in the US. at least every two years that is.

edit on 18/4/12 by gunshooter because: (no reason given)

NORAD is not the same NORAD as old. Majority of the function of NORAD have been moved out to surrounding areas in CO. Forget the movie War Games or what most people think of NORAD....it just is not that anymore...

US military bases, at least in Colorado have a LOT of foreign military working here. Buckley AFB has a very LARGE presence of Australians, Brits, Canadians and Germans. And that is not the only base.

I don't think many realize how much the US literally works side by side with foreign military on a daily basis....don't think many realize the amount of foreign military working on US soil hand in hand with us...it is a LOT.

edit on April 18th 2012 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)

Here in Il Scott AFB hosts troops from all over. You are absolutely correct, working side by side and its a LOT. The husband has been at this base for some time and the amount of foreign troops has increased over that time. Of course there were more at Offut and Langley.

It is possibly due to the American public not taking any type of foreign occupation well. It would be a political nightmare. Now with that said I believe that foreign troops (Allies) are embedded in our bases so that they do not get the heat of having bases of their own.

Originally posted by Adyta
Because nobody has defeated us and we have not begged for anyones protection.

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Does it feel good bathing in the blood of innocents? I hope one day you realise that your attitude is the reason for tens of thousands of dead, innocent Americans.

When Americans are attacked and killed they're done so with the murderers believing they share the same characteristic as yourself and many others. Take note, YOU are the reason everybody hates and despises America. We're all jealous of ignoramuses like you!

I'm pretty sure, for the record, that America only exists because you begged European nations to save you from the British empire. I guess all that blood was blocking up your eyes and ears when you were in history class, huh?

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by beezzer
Can someone provide a reason "why" another country might require a foreign base in the United States?

2nd

I suppose the reverse could be asked.

Why does America need around 900 bases in around 130 countries?

That still doesn't answer the question.

Can another country justify its presence in the US?

There's legitimate reason for many countries to send troops to impoverished 3rd world, lawless criminal haven places like Detroit. Just as legitimate, at least, as the US justification for presence in other countries.

Justifying presence is just the tip of the iceberg, if we viewed all countries by the same standards that America judges others, there would be no doubt that all out war against America is valid - based on American "standards"(quoting the word loosely)

America is itching for a strong arm to the jaw. Your days are numbered and we're all waiting to celebrate your economic collapse. Don't come crying to the rest of the world when it happens though.

reply to post by JailTales

Our economic collapse will mean the death of your economy Everyone is connected like a chain. You celebrate our death, it is your death as well.

Civilized people dont celebrate the collapse and death of any country or anyone. The government is not the citizens, but I see many do not really comprehend that. As in Greece, the citizens were not in control of their collapse, but they are the ones suffering so much. The ones who created the collapse are reaping the benefits.

Hate a people you dont even know. You have the exact mindset of my disgusting fellow Americans who promote the slaughter in the ME. Congrats, you are what you hate.

I am sure that the US has many, many agreements with other countries for exchanges for training, working and that across all branches. My friends are deployed for those things in bases across America for work exchanges, training, etc... all the time. We don't really NEED a base in the US when our troops are deployed there on a constant basis. Same as here. There are always foreign troops working and living and training here. I see them often as CFB Gagetown is less than 30 minutes from my home and my friends that are stationed there are always bringing someone or another with them when we get together.

If I am bullied, I generally don't go into the bullies backyard and pitch a tent.

There was a base in my country
Where the navy and the marines
Practiced landings with live ammunition.
The residents got fed up, complained,
And the US closed the base and left.

Lot of countries want those bases there.

reply to post by Frankenchrist


They still do, it's a NATO training base, they even have a German School in Alamogordo for the families who come over.

There are bases in the US that house foreign troops for training and joint operations. They don't require a base of their own as they can utilize our bases without paying rent (as we do for all of our non combat bases).

Another reason is tactically, foreign troops don't have a strategic interest in being here, unless they plan to attack Canada or Mexico ( again if their ships or planes need refueling/ resupply they can use our bases).

We have bases worldwide as we have global interets that require troops to be closer then the US, and alot of countries get benefits for having those bases.

Originally posted by OmegaVice
reply to post by Frankenchrist

 

They still do, it's a NATO training base, they even have a German School in Alamogordo for the families who come over.

What many don't realize is how the cost of living for the tiny town of Alamogordo (est pop of 35,000) is inflated due to the foreign troop presence. The Germans that are stationed at Holloman AFB tended to have much more disposable income than the town and the US military personnel that were stationed there (At one time, I was stuck at that base for 5 years).

Culturally it benefited the town -- beer was flown in from Germany during Oktoberfest. The down side is when faced with the choice of the same old American boys or an exotic (if that is even the right choice of word here) German boys -- us Americans typically lost out at the bars.

A bit of a sidetrack but like I said, I spent 5 years there and have a fairly solid knowledge of the Germans in that tiny dust-stop of a town in southern New Mexico. Joint bases such as these are really fun to be stationed at.

Originally posted by Advantage
reply to post by JailTales

 

Our economic collapse will mean the death of your economy Everyone is connected like a chain. You celebrate our death, it is your death as well.

Civilized people dont celebrate the collapse and death of any country or anyone. The government is not the citizens, but I see many do not really comprehend that. As in Greece, the citizens were not in control of their collapse, but they are the ones suffering so much. The ones who created the collapse are reaping the benefits.

Hate a people you dont even know. You have the exact mindset of my disgusting fellow Americans who promote the slaughter in the ME. Congrats, you are what you hate.

I suppose the difference is most Greeks are great, honest, humble people. Where as most Americans are not.

The other difference is that Greeks don't act as a foundation to the worlds most atrocious terrorist activities, where as you and your fellow American citizens do.

And what exactly are you doing about it? Complaining that the world is judging you. Poor you. How horrible your life must be to be judged for your own complacency.

Originally posted by Cyanhide
reply to post by beezzer

 

You crack me up, instead of answering OP's question u keep repeating the same question.

In short, you can't find a descent answer to justify America's presence in well kinda every damn country.
Yet you would want a descent answer to why another country isn't allowed or welcome to open a base in the US.

I find it sickening to see in times like these that most of you Americans still have this "atlas complex" the world is resting on our shoulders, tbh laugh out loud.

Why is it in times like these when the world is cracking up in every single nation you people still think the US is doing better.

If only u could grasp the idea how people look upon America.

We are all the same, puppets of the master. We are all being betrayed by the same people.

Get past the frigging nation borders.

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Actually,the OP' question was "Why are there no other country's military bases in the US??"

And I respond with, "What would be the justification?"

And I get no answer.

Originally posted by ownbestenemy

Originally posted by OmegaVice
reply to post by Frankenchrist

 

They still do, it's a NATO training base, they even have a German School in Alamogordo for the families who come over.

What many don't realize is how the cost of living for the tiny town of Alamogordo (est pop of 35,000) is inflated due to the foreign troop presence. The Germans that are stationed at Holloman AFB tended to have much more disposable income than the town and the US military personnel that were stationed there (At one time, I was stuck at that base for 5 years).

Culturally it benefited the town -- beer was flown in from Germany during Oktoberfest. The down side is when faced with the choice of the same old American boys or an exotic (if that is even the right choice of word here) German boys -- us Americans typically lost out at the bars.

A bit of a sidetrack but like I said, I spent 5 years there and have a fairly solid knowledge of the Germans in that tiny dust-stop of a town in southern New Mexico. Joint bases such as these are really fun to be stationed at.

I agree completely, however, right before the economic downturn of 08, I believe the F-117 wing was relocated to Clovis and the F-22 was brought in, at this point Holloman was pretty much a frozen base and it caused the housing market there to become stagnant. No demand, the value of supply decreases. I know at least two different people that had to foreclose on their homes because they either retired or got orders right before and couldn't resale their homes for a few years. Sorry, a little off topic, but still relevant.

reply to post by beezzer


The only justification I can think of is our bombing range infrastructure in the Southwest.

Originally posted by OmegaVice
I agree completely, however, right before the economic downturn of 08, I believe the F-117 wing was relocated to Clovis

Officially the F-117 was retired and there are no more active wings. The plane was expensive to maintain and better technology, the F-22, was on its way in. I am not sure how you can see it as making the base "frozen. While much of the current infrastructure and support could easily be ported over to maintain the newest stealth fighter, other aspects needed to be upgraded. Most bases in ACC (Air Combat Command) that are stateside are heavy training bases with high turnover rate (though this has changed when they changed the time-on-station requirements).

For instance, when I was there we were working with an ancient ground radar -- since then, they have put into place a more modern radar to help facilitate the new aircraft and provide better terminal support.

As far as why there are no foreign bases, my guess is that it just isn't needed. Most countries have no need to project power from within the United States (Mexico and Canada being benign). England projects its power in the Falklands and I would wager there are many small clandestine bases in South America that other larger nations maintain.

I know of one in South America that is a joint base (always wanted to get it but so did everyone else) that houses a joint military force with other countries. Same with our NATO bases in Europe.

If the United States had a terrible war (we say screw it and start taking over the world or someone attacks us) and we called upon allies, I would guess that bases would be established and be maintained after such a war ended. That is typically how many of our bases worldwide came into existence. Other countries tolerate our bases because it brings in a source of revenue.

The United States is the Hegemon of the world. Hegemon's try to remold the world to their liking. Always have. The U.S. doesn't "need" a reason for bases around the world, it wants them, and so it will have them. This is the nature and history of our civilization, be it the Egyptians, Romans, Nazis, U.S. etc. Eventually the United States' power will decline, and a new Hegemon will rise up, and they will become the world police force with bases around the world, and everyone will then hate them, and the cycle goes on and on. Hard to blame the United States for just following the blueprint nations have had for millenia.

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