The Mother of All Conspiracies

Excellent rant!

Discourse like this is most assuredly encouraged in the finest 'learning institutions', you know, the ones regular mortals can't afford.

Nowhere in the world will a per son learn confidence, cunning, ruthlessness, and power, that old money can afford. It's no surprise that world leaders are all connected and trained from birth to be a certain way. It is no accident that certain people are groomed to hold power. Loyalty must be cultivated very early. They get life training, we get programming.

Public school? They teach structure, not knowledge. Real prison is actually a better learning experience than the fake prison called high school. Private school, depending on how prestigiou$, is a filtering system. If you show promise, ground level opportunities abound. Very rare can the outsider join the inner circle.

TV is another tool, as well as your local tabloid rag, er "newspaper". Letting seemingly smart people pick apart policies of gov... Making people think they are SMART, because they agree with whatever pundit says what conforms to their own programming of how smart and special they are. Sophisticated pandering.

Anyone who thinks the gov is stupid needs a reality check. It is by design that there are multiple layers of accountability, deniability, and confusion. The very best of the best are skilled to make it all sound like just a big misunderstanding. Political ponerology?

WE have lawmakers that don't even write laws. THEY MERELY SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE. We have always had think tanks, they do the dirty work, writing laws that is. These are focused people who are paid to think of absolutely every single consequence and contingency for such. They are as good if not better than the military. We should never hold the gov as imbeciles. Simple proof is that they have a better gig than you and hardly have the same consequence for negligent performance.

Checks, balances, transparency, are better off if you were on the outside looking in, instead of the inside looking out. If our nation is 360 million strong, there are maybe a few thousand persons who could change course alone. Doubt they'd be too interested in that though.

We are like 1 million snake plisskens, and 500,000 john rambos short. And yes, I am not immune to the programming either. Mother Earth will weep for us in the end.

Please enjoy my rant.

reply to post by deviloshdoughnuts


I agree 100%. The only chance we have is to unite, and you'll notice how they are working at keeping us divided - because they don't want that.

And I know for a fact that the ancient Egyptian and Iraq priest castes deliberately conspired to keep mathematics (especially geometry) from the masses because they could leverage their credulity for coin and power. Plato and Pythagoras also had a hand in this as well - as Carl Sagan clearly points out.

There is a terrible irony at play here: knowledge that was once forbidden, is now freely available, yet now that it available, it is largely ignored. And also, it's ironic that the more and more we come to rely and be accustomed to technology, the less and less we understand it as a whole.

reply to post by godspetrat


I agree. There is no need to bring lizard people into this. Human beings are capable enough of perpetuating their own horrors - we don't need to make up monsters to describe what already exists in reality.

part of the conditioning if not most of it has to do with religion and being an obedient subject.
if the steps of becoming a united planet were in order, it would have to start somewhere..

they needed to be able to herd people, domesticate them.
and if need be, fight for them.

and on the other hand, using science as the means through which to do it.

reply to post by morder1


I've seen Michael Ruppert's documentary "Collapse," and it is rather frightening, no doubt about it. But I think there's more at play here than just oil, though. I think precious metals (manufacturing), rare earth metals (technology), hemp (manufacturing), and poppy (drugs) are also extremely large players in the field of "Really Important Resources That Nations Kill Each Other Over."

Sometimes I wonder if oil is used as a cover story for opium. See the opium wars of the 1850's between Britain and China. Rare earth metals and opium in Afghanistan allows America's military presence there to make more sense.

Drugs, Sex and Rock and Roll make the world go 'round - instead, back then, it was Drugs, Sex and Power that made the world go 'round. These things never change, and never will.

reply to post by cleverhans


True, however, I can actually point fingers and name names.

The Captains of Industry, such as J.P. Morgan, Westinghouse, Ford, Edison, Rothschild, and Prescott Bush (the Business Plot).

I could go on, of course..

reply to post by yourmaker


The way they use religion is to take the spirituality out of it. The goal is to water it down to a point of meaninglessness. Hypocrisy plus the bureaucracy and cruelty and perversion all make religion to be a nightmare and not a salvation. The truth is that we can experience spiritual connectedness without a churches interference.

Also I think that the reason for the plight of indigenous people around the world is to root out natural belief by systematically making every day survival so impossible that belief in a higher power becomes unattainable.

reply to post by guavas

I read that far. It felt like I was arranging my own thoughts and feelings into a coherent and understandable form...then I snapped out of it and realized I was reading it. Figures. It felt good for a while though.
Bravo.

reply to post by hawkiye


Yup.

And the worst part about it, is if you start asking where Rumsfeld lost $600 billion, the next thing you know people think you chase aliens and bigfoot.

I hate how legitimacy gets marginalized, ridiculed and associated with stuff that has nothing to do with the legitimate concern at hand.

Just look what happened with the Tea Party movement - people (like Karl Denninger) thought investigating fraud was a good idea, so they highjacked the movement with crazy, so no one would want to be a part of it as evidenced here:

I will not state it outright. Instead, I leave the inference to the reader, as the idea is rather uncomfortable - but - I back up that war isn't necessarily the "necessity" one might think it is for controlling population, as it were.

Since I have been very young, I've felt that, in the end, we are at the very mercy of our own mother. No one can control our world and its so tragic that we may prove history once again. Much literature supports the 'flood'. My take is ARROGANCE. Of a select human kind.

Mother Nature has her own self correcting measures that can easily outlast our endurence.

Little side note... How can we really be sure of our true history? If chinese whispers can dilute a story to make it completely false within five moves, how are we even supposed to believe anything that happened before our own lifetime? Hoaxers didn't just show up once the internet came along. (although, this site could make you think otherwise) If you didn't see it happen, then you are operating under a hearsay stance, and your credibility comes into question. My stance is that truth is not a popularity contest.

reply to post by dfens


Oh, did I ever enjoy your rant...THAT was craftsmanship - my hat's off to you, and I'm in total agreement. NEVER underestimate the government. People tend to forget what that middle initial C.I.A. stands for.

It also infers COUNTER intelligence - which they are frighteningly good at. Why anyone could ever believe a word that gets puked out by that agency is beyond me.

"The Federal Bureau of Lying Really Good to People has issued the following statement that says..."

Really? Anything that comes out of those agencies goes in one ear and out the other. It's what they're NOT saying that you have to pay attention to.

reply to post by deviloshdoughnuts


...and dangling the carrot in front of your nose...do X and you'll get Y.

Not, "Do X because it is the right thing to do," but rather, "Do X, because you'll get something out of it."

That's why Buddhist monks spend lifetimes becoming masters.

Originally posted by guavas
reply to post by morder1

 

I've seen Michael Ruppert's documentary "Collapse," and it is rather frightening, no doubt about it. But I think there's more at play here than just oil, though. I think precious metals (manufacturing), rare earth metals (technology), hemp (manufacturing), and poppy (drugs) are also extremely large players in the field of "Really Important Resources That Nations Kill Each Other Over."

Sometimes I wonder if oil is used as a cover story for opium. See the opium wars of the 1850's between Britain and China. Rare earth metals and opium in Afghanistan allows America's military presence there to make more sense.

Drugs, Sex and Rock and Roll make the world go 'round - instead, back then, it was Drugs, Sex and Power that made the world go 'round. These things never change, and never will.

Absolutely more at play than just oil... I was mainly just talking about the aspect of the population growth in the past 150 years

Yeah no doubt about the metals and other stuff... I remember a year or so ago cnn reports about trillion+ mines of copper and other metals...

reply to post by dfens


Oh, our hubris will no doubt help lead to our undoing. And you're right...it's gotten to the point to where I know that virtually all things that are "information" that's fed to me in any form or fashion, has been doctored, censored, filtered, processed and sterilized for public consumption.

It's virtually impossible to get any truth nowadays.

Take absolutely everything with a grain of salt. I do not care what the source is - if you're drawing a paycheck, you have incentive for an agenda, and history has shown repeatedly that incentives > ethics.

It alarms me that I have come across people who will argue vehemently that this is patently untrue.

Originally posted by guavas

There is a terrible irony at play here: knowledge that was once forbidden, is now freely available, yet now that it available, it is largely ignored. And also, it's ironic that the more and more we come to rely and be accustomed to technology, the less and less we understand it as a whole.

Distraction and misdirection are very key to your point. Every iota of information is now available electronicly. Folks are being led to rely on an infrastructure that has every chance of failing, deliberately or not.

Apparently, past civilizations have learned from previous mistakes and developed their structures along megalithic magnitudes to preserve their knowledge. It seems the knowledge is too obscure to teach, yet vast speculation, eg disinfo, has been spread. Who do you think that favors? Library of Alexandria should be the best example. Romans burnt it down. Killed Jesus. Yet learned nothing? Knowledge is power. Who really knows what we have been denied?

One of the crazier things I've read.. People = chattel. Moveable property. You are valued at birth for the going rate and insured as such. Everything extra is just more gravy. You get a guy who creates lots of wealth, much labor, or creates others who fall into the same cycle without ever knowing the wiser. Worst case = consumer, no kids, dies old. Best case = investor, "business man", taxpayer, family, property. What falls in the middle is pretty much most of America. If I were stacking the deck for myself, I would have to do pretty much the same. You can't be too obvious when you cheat, right? I have read on a couple of fringe sites that everyone is written up for $5m in US at birth, that's why you need to be born in a hospital. I still find that hard to believe, yet I haven't ever been surprised. (pretty much why I indulge in these theories)

Why should us pleebs be divided like we are? Racism, like class, race, man or woman, or sexual orientation, is totally contrived to keep the multitudes off balance. Its just an easy way to get everyone distracted by the hating. Real people in this world don't hijack your culture of belief. It happens because people are told that it does happen. In reality, people get along just fine with or without labels attached.

I would have to say that the 99% thing is pretty much useless now. The real 99 should be about going home every night, play with your family, have good supper, talk about meaningful things, inspire hope, and sleep well at night. WE simply need to make a living wage and not be limited by regulations that hurt our people.

I finish this by alluding to the fact that our system of rule is more appropiately fascist. Corporatacracy, or Corporate Oligarchy may be close. Democracy is lagging far behind the reality of today. The only way mob rules is when the walls tumble down. The rules have been silently rewritten behind our backs and in front of our faces. It really can't be countered, because normal people do not have a year to waste at picking apart an act, bill, hr, sr, all the joint resolutions, attachments, all the other bs that they throw out there. These pieces of paper have words that mean much different than what your dictionary will tell you. W described a piece of paper once... He forgot that he was supposed to act all bumpkin like. Paper has too much power. Just look at religious text.

reply to post by dfens


If the healthcare reform bill didn't wake people up to this, hopefully CISPA will..it's astounding how they don't take no for an answer. They just take an entire bill everyone's opposed to, then simply split it up in to its constituent parts, and then inject those parts - tiny bit by tiny bit - into other bills that have nothing to do with it.

We're all being hoodwinked by misdirection and the media jams racial tensions down our throats to make sure it stays "a thing" in our consciousness. It's going to crumble down around our ears, because math says it will.

It's unfortunate that we have to blow ourselves up first. Some people just have to get hit by a truck in order to understand that it hurts.

I can't agree with you any more, as we are clearly of like mind on this.

As long as there are people willing to conspire, and as long as there are people able to theorize, there will be conspiracy theories. The common element: people.

WE are the mothers of all conspiracy theories.

Word play aside, but in the spirit of the above statement, I suspect you are right in the bulk of your observations.

About that hemp thing though. Nothing stopping you growing cotton in your back yard, nothing stopping you growing lettuce and carrots. None of those products are much use smoking to get high on, which I suspect is the reason hemp is what you seek. Just saying.

Originally posted by dfens

Originally posted by guavas

There is a terrible irony at play here: knowledge that was once forbidden, is now freely available, yet now that it available, it is largely ignored. And also, it's ironic that the more and more we come to rely and be accustomed to technology, the less and less we understand it as a whole.

Distraction and misdirection are very key to your point. ...

Paper has too much power. Just look at religious text.

Casey Zimmerman!

As in The Hunger Games, Harisson Bergeron, and Brave New World... the rules/laws/paper - has too much power - but the truth is even bigger - and thats what we die for... Like...

Jesus,
Tesla,
Gandahi,
Howard Roark,
and perhapse Johnathan E

reply to post by guavas


Thank you for that. I have long felt this way, and each day I have small epiphanies that build on this. I really haven't taken the time to lay things out, but what you have done is inspiring, and I think that if everyone started to do this, really started to spell things out for everyone, people would start to "get it".

A lot of people already realize this on some level, but when it's there in front of their eyes, it sinks in on a deeper level.

Good stuff.... you hit the nail on the head. I must say that your idea is nothing new, but you have the gift of articulating it in a very easy to understand manner. If 5% of America would wake up to this reality it would be the end of the game.