Man took photos of the UFO that abducted him - Looks impressive!

reply to post by Blue Shift


Nice observations, something just looks completely fake about these photos. Like he saw fighter jet, took some photos, and then later decided to mess with them.

I remember reading about the NWO and world guberment from books in the 1920's through 80's........it wasn't a secret guys. Heck, even the Bible, some 4000 years old talks about a world guberment in the last days. But interesting video none the less.

reply to post by Poopooplatter


I personally think there might be some truth to this case. And for all of you rambling about "its already posted a thousand times" You guys need to chill. I bet you guys I can find info on this case, including different videos of it that nobody new existed. Also, I find it somewhat discouraging to post or talk about a topic on any thread say from 2004. Hell, nobody really cares about posting much as they immediately think, "this is an old thread, i am not gonna post on this thread". And yes this incident happened back in the 80s.

With that attitude this is why nothing ever goes past "Fake" or "debunked" here on ATS.

Also, the freaky part is that the aliens this man describes are extremely similar to another alien encounter in a ufo incident in another country. If you guys want to know just ask. I will post it here and not on the other "old" threads, as nobody will even care to see my findings on them dirty old threads.

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
What spooks me the most was the mentioning of living on a floating island. That wasn't discussed back then either but it is now, coincidently. Not to mention there have been predictions about a large object striking the earth, and I can't remember right now who it was, but I remember something about a prediction that mentioned the same area he takes about. Anyone remember that?
This link mentions global warming as the reason for creating a floating island but that's NOT the point. The point is that they showed him something that is just being considered in the past few years. Like I said, SPOOKY
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Great find and association to the thread.

Originally posted by Trueman
This case was already discussed here :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

...and here :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

....and here :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The list continues, try search engine.

who cares, plenty of people are going to see this information now who wouldn't have known to search for it.

Originally posted by stuthealien
reply to post by Trueman

 

this is the thing that bugs me abouts ats the "it been discussed already "attitude,
well maybe just maybe i like real time discusion as aposed to just reading

Yes it is a little strange, you almost get the impression they (ATS) are trying to hide certain info,

reply to post by The Coward


I think that some people just care WAY to much about getting stars and flags. I understand the issues with re posting multiple threads on the same topic, but the OP has been made aware and I imagine so has the moderator so no more need to beat this dead horse IMO. If the moderator feels the need to close it or move it or link it then he or she will. I don't think its mandatory to participate on re posts?

Great find regardless who found it or posted it first and I think we have had some good info on this thread such as the mention of the floating Island and the other posters reference to a country that has actually talked about building a floating Island.


Now give me a star. LOL

Excellent post OP. Very interesting
Starred & flagged.

Originally posted by Blue Shift
Just a note on the photos.

The other 2 photos have the airplane and the UFO also going at it next to the branches. And if you line up the branches in the two photos (as good as possible, as there seems to have been some change in them from one photo to the next), you'll notice the plane hardly moves at all, and the UFO only moves a little. Now, that's a pretty dull dogfight! And I wonder how the branches got moved.

I suspect some monkey business.

actually, this pic combo corroborates the testimony.
He never mentioned a dogfight and illustrated the planes flew in orbits that allowed one plane to always be near the object yet always apart. He briefly gestured a triangle formation which these show perfectly

I dont have an answer to the "trimmed branches" other than to say that's reaching for it.
kinda silly to trim branches to take a fake shot when it can be hung on any other tree without trimming.


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Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by quedup

 

Amaury Rivera is one of the most famous cases of fraud in the world. Rivera never wanted to deliver the negatives of the photos for analysis. Furthermore Rivera has sentence for drugs and was arrested in 1993. Rivera is not a good example of truth.

edit on 17-4-2012 by Druscilla because: (no reason given)

I believe this source is dubious at best. According to Wikipedia, Source he seems to be a pretty smart individual and successful businessman. Interesting that Mayor Mario Cuomo would appoint a foreign ex-con as a Member of the New York State Small Business Advisory Board.

Furthermore, any decent photographer can hoax just about anything. It's pretty common knowledge that almost anything can be reproduced with camera tricks and optics. I don't think being able to replicate something using camera tricks makes the original invalid. Especially something circa 1980's (with the technology and low-definition that it was).

I could take a picture of the blue sky - then take a picture of a painting of the picture of the same blue sky - and they would be almost identical, especially with low-fi technology (circa 1980's). Does that invalidate the original? Not likely.

Also, it's not a stretch to believe the fellow may have simply lost the negatives. How many of you have negatives of photos you have in any of your photo albums? I know I don't. I tend to believe most of us normal folk throw them away with the package the photos came in when we move the photos to albums.

wow

so TPTB have been practicing for bluebeam

since the 80s at least!

There were a few flaws found in his story,,I still like his story though,,not usual to hear of a feminine puerto rican guy get snatched ,,pics are always interesting,,reminded me of some billy meier pics,,,but with a puerto rican sassy disco flair

Sorry, had to take it off.

Originally posted by quedup
reply to post by Romekje

 

Like mentioned earlier, The NWO wasn't opening discussed then - but I thought - if he just made the video recently then - yes he would know.

"New World Order" is anything but new. Winston Churchill, Woodrow Wilson, H.G. Wells, Ronald Reagan, just to name a few. Goes back even further actually...

reply to post by quedup


One thing that lends me to caution about this is that these areas the most authentically sounding abductee reports are coming from, have a population that is very poor, most communities barely literate, and they are a very highly religous people.
While those arent bad things..in of themselves, it does point to a people who are likely less critical in thinking, less skeptical, who are more or better 'absorbers' of what the are seeing and less likely to analyse it.
Basically, they are ' more vulnerable' to deception and to projects like blue beam, projects already well underway, that have been ongoing for some time.
What better way to seed the story for the time 'after' whatever conflaguration they are aiming for to occur than to provide holigraphic representations of 'beings' etc...

The existance of DUMBS..large underground survival caves being built all opver hte world right now....the immense waste and wealth spending on resource securing the flagrant disregard of the surface environment etc..does lend me to think that perhaps it is true though....that perhaps many people in higher positions also have received 'notices' of this kind..people the authorities will take credibly and so maybe they are or may be preparing for this celestial assault on our planet (asteroid)...in that sense, trying to ensure the survival of the human race.

Sans its spirit though and its population, with only select and pathological few being permitted entry to these spaces..I doubt that that survival post asteroid will be for long in the event this does occur. Kind of like the "stark conspiracy', imo they will turn on themselves all too quickly...and whomever is left on the surface..the 'meek' so to speak..will be all that is left to inherit and rebuild.


Good.

Ro

Originally posted by quedup
reply to post by Romekje

 

It was a pretty scary experience for me - so careful what you wish for.

Scary or not, it would still be an experience.

I've experienced enough in my short life by now that i think this would not fear me. Even if it would be a feeling of being scared.. I've had much worse feelings to cope with.

Fear is just fear and cant harm you, it only means you have no experience with what's going on and have fear of what MIGHT be coming.

Im sorry your experience has turned out this way for you.

Originally posted by Bspiracy

actually, this pic combo corroborates the testimony.
He never mentioned a dogfight and illustrated the planes flew in orbits that allowed one plane to always be near the object yet always apart. He briefly gestured a triangle formation which these show perfectly

I dont have an answer to the "trimmed branches" other than to say that's reaching for it.
kinda silly to trim branches to take a fake shot when it can be hung on any other tree without trimming.


b

Yes, 3 tomcats flying in one at a time.

As for the branches and why they'd be somewhat different between shots, well, wind is a funny thing.

I do remember seeing another video about aliens in a burning crop circle that reminded me of the aliens in the smoke. Lemme see...

Here ya go...
parabook.wordpress.com...

Don't know exactly when it was shot but it wasn't any where near 1988. Kinda interesting.

reply to post by quedup


The fact that he talks about a 'New World Order Conspiracy' really isn't proof of anything...That Idea has been around for quite a while.

"During the 20th century, many statesmen, such as Woodrow Wilson and Winston Churchill, used the term "new world order" to refer to a new period of history evidencing a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power after World War I and World War II. They all saw these periods as opportunities to implement idealistic proposals for global governance in the sense of new collective efforts to address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual nation-states to solve, while always respecting the right of nations to self-determination. These proposals led to the creation of international organizations, such as the United Nations and NATO, and international regimes, such as the Bretton Woods system and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, which were calculated both to maintain a balance of power in favor of the United States as well as regularize cooperation between nations, in order to achieve a peaceful phase of capitalism. These creations in particular and liberal internationalism in general, however, would always be criticized and opposed by American ultraconservative business nationalists from the 1930s on." SOURCE

KO usually if there is smoke there is fire. This may, or may not, be a good hoax but I won't judge it as such but when I do question is the guy in the video, NOT THE ABDUCTEE, says that they have been seen before - the the Alien that looks human and then 2 smaller "created" cyborgs and these would be used to go outside so that the other alien doesn't have to. hmmmm... ok would this mean because out atmosphere is not really good for him?

So we can assume, too, that inside his UFO the atmosphere is fine? So then there must be a difference? HOWEVER no abductee, it seems, reported any breathing difficulties which would indicate a similar respiratory environment as what would be found outside. You get what i am saying?

So it was probably that he just didn't want to do the dirty work...