To 18-26 year old's from USA

"This is real. It is not a joke, not a fluke, and not bad information. You can do a google for "draft 2005" and find it yourself.

The administration is COUNTING on, yet again, the 18-26-year-olds to have the lowest voter turnout -- and if they do, this is what will come to pass.

Post this on EVERY FORUM. Post it EVERYWHERE. I don't care if it's some little nothing six-person mailing list or the Newgrounds Message Boards.

Email this to EVERYONE. Everyone you know. People you barely know. People you might not have spoken to in awhile. Even all your relatives.

We canNOT let our voices be unhear again, we canNOT let this happen, and we canNOT let this man get re-elected.

If you are pro-Bush, I am not attacking him as a human being. please, for the love of whatever deity you believe in, conservative, liberal, or moderate, read, and I gurarantee your opinions will change. :


... the administration is gearing up for a
return of the draft. Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26)
starting June 15, 2005, is something that everyone should know about.
This literally affects everyone since we all have or know children
that will have to go if this bill passes.

There is pending legislation in the house and senate (companion bills:
S89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft
can begin as early as spring, 2005, just after the 2004 presidential
election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills
passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our
action on this is needed immediately. Details and links follow. This
plan, among oth! er things, eliminates higher education as a shelter
and includes women in the draft. Also, crossing into Canada has
already been made very difficult. Please send this on to all the
parents and teachersyou know, and all the aunts and uncles,
grandparents, godparents. . . And let your children know - - it's
their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change!

This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found in detail at this website:
thomas.loc.gov...:@@@L&summ2=m& If
this bill passes, it will include
all men and ALL WOMEN from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for military
action. In addition, college will no longer be an option for av!
oiding the draft and they will be signing an agreement with the Canada
which will no longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft to
stay within its borders. This bill also includes the extension of
military service for all those that are currently active. If you go to
the selective service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals you will
see that the reasoning for this is to increase the size of the
military in case of terrorism. This is a critical piece of
legislation, this will effect our undergraduates, our children and our
grandchildren.

The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350
draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.
Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and
influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's
prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan (and
permanent state of war on terrorism) proves accurate, the U.S. may
have no choice but to draft. The draf! t $28 million has been added to
the 2004 selective service system budget to prepare for a military
draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective service
must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain
dormant for decades, is ready for activation.
________________________________

H.R.163
Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young
persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of
military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the
national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/7/2003)
Cosponsors (14)
Related Bills: S.89
Latest Major Action: 2/3/2003 House committee/subcommittee actions.
Status: Executive Comment Requested from DOD.
________________________________
Jump to: Titles, Status, Committees, Related Bill Details,
Amendments, Cosponsors, Summary ________________________________
TITLE(S): (italics indicate a title for a portion of a bill)

POPULAR TITLE(S):
Reinstate draft bill (identified by CRS)

SHORT TITLE(S) AS INTRODUCED:
Universal National Service Act of 2003

OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons
in the United States, including women, perform a period of military
service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national
defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

________________________________
STATUS: (color indicates Senate actions)
1/7/2003: Referred to the House Committee on Armed Services.
2/3/2003: Executive Comment Requested from DOD.
2/3/2003: Referred to the Subcommittee on Total Force.
________________________________
COMMITTEE(S): ________________________________
RELATED BILL DETAILS: (additional related bills may be indentified in Status)

Bill: Relationship:
S.89 Identical bill identified by CRS ________________________________
AMENDMENT(S): *NONE* ________________________________
COSPONSORS(14), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:
(Sort: by date)

Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 1/7/2003 Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 1/28/2003
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 5/19/2004 Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1]
- 1/28/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 1/7/2003 Rep Cummings, Elijah E.
[MD-7] - 1/28/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 1/28/2003 Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr.
[IL-2] - 7/21/2004
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/28/2003 Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 1/7/2003
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/7/2003 Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 1/28/2003
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 1/7/2003 Rep Velazquez, Nydia M.
[NY-12] - 1/28/2003
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 1/28/2003(withdrawn - 6/21/2004)"



In summary, everyone should vote for kerry and not bush because bush wants to do a draft for everyone 18-26 and that will be stupid because maybe some of your family members or friends will get drafted.

Thank god I live in the UK

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Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 1/7/2003 Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 1/28/2003
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 5/19/2004 Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1]
- 1/28/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 1/7/2003 Rep Cummings, Elijah E.
[MD-7] - 1/28/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 1/28/2003 Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr.
[IL-2] - 7/21/2004
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/28/2003 Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 1/7/2003
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/7/2003 Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 1/28/2003
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 1/7/2003 Rep Velazquez, Nydia M.
[NY-12] - 1/28/2003

Umm, you know these are all democrats, right?

Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7]

This is the same "Baghdad" Jim McDermott that said Bush was a liar, and that we should take Saddam at his word. I can guarantee you these guys are not Bush puppets, this is a Democratic Party drive, and has nothing to do with Bush.

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Democrats are to blame for coming draft? Who knows how they came about passing or trying to pass this. HOWEVER, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT BUSH CANT WAIT TO BE RE-ELECTED so that he can pass this and enforce it to his BENEFIT immediately after he's named president.
Stop with your anti-democrat schpiels. Surely, even those of you who are Bush-lovers and fanatics (Hitler had them too) can plainly see whats about to take place. Surely you have relatives, kids, you would not want involved in this blood bath?????
C'mon. Get human. Think of what your vote would do to the lives of millions of innocents.
How many of you can honestly say "you dont care"?????
Not many, i hope.

What role does obesity play in the draft? Would being 100lbs overweight be a reason someone would not be accepted? I'm thinking about the current girth of teens and adults in the US and if it would prohibit someone from serving if called.

There have been some very good and thorough discussions on this issue in the last few days.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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No matter who is elected President if there is a need to have the draft reinstated it will be.

Jemison

Originally posted by RedBalloon
What role does obesity play in the draft? Would being 100lbs overweight be a reason someone would not be accepted? I'm thinking about the current girth of teens and adults in the US and if it would prohibit someone from serving if called.

It means when they go into boot camp they get reduced rations.

Trust me it works, I saw really chubby recruits get skinny fast. Also really skinny recruits put on weight fast, there's a program for them too.

Kind of hard to keep the weight on when you PT all day and eat cereal and lettuce for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

This has been covered repeatedly.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks for the links, Jemison.

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