Questions No One Knows The Answers To....

First off, I used the search function and didn't see this anywhere and mods if this is in the wrong forum please feel free to move it to the appropriate one.

I came across a video (below) recently that got me thinking quite a bit and I thought "Interesting..I wonder what the ATS community would say about this?" So here I am, now asking you to provide your thoughts and/or opinions on this video. After all, according to the 12 minute video, these 2 questions cannot yet be answered... and if true, would only allow you to provide your thoughts and/or opinions and not be able to answer the 2 questions factually/definetively.



Summary of the video;

In a new TED-Ed series designed to catalyze curiosity, TED Curator Chris Anderson shares his obsession with questions that no one (yet) knows the answers to. A short intro leads into two questions: Why can't we see evidence of alien life? and How many universes are there?

wow


removed previous statement, apologize for the one liner, will return with proper response.

reply to post by Ericthenewbie


Well, its quite simple really! Its because WE are the aliens.

reply to post by lestweforget


I apologize in advance, but I don't understand your statement. To what or who are we the aliens?

reply to post by Ericthenewbie


We are as alien as they are alien to us. We are made up of the same atomic particles when vibrated at a higher frequency, give off the universal love and knowledge we need to experience in a given dimension. Think of it as souls having a human experience

the smartest person on the planet is the one that can claim he knows nothing.

reply to post by sgspecial19


based on your answer I get the impression you haven't watched the video and if you have, can you provide factual/definitive sources answering the 2 questions from the video?

Originally posted by sgspecial19
reply to post by Ericthenewbie

 

We are as alien as they are alien to us. We are made up of the same atomic particles when vibrated at a higher frequency, give off the universal love and knowledge we need to experience in a given dimension. Think of it as souls having a human experience

Atomic particles don't "vibrate" at higher frequencies due to love or universal knowledge. Actually, I'm not sure you can say a monatomic element vibrates. Complex molecules do, but also not due to love, hate, or the bad technique of the Leafs. It takes at least two atoms to tango.

What if we are the first? Big responsibility if we are.

edit to be on topic:

Why can't we hear aliens? There aren't any, OR we're all about the same developmental level and no-one's bothered yet, OR, if you make a lot of noise the bad guys show up and kill you, limiting the window of time in which you can communicate.

How many universes are there? No less than 1....

reply to post by Ericthenewbie


Unable to watch the videos, but we reside in one universe headed towards others. I'm not sure it requires anything larger in scale as a universe, but yeah... It's entirely possible. In reference to higher intelligence/ alien lifeforms... You do realize we're able to cloak our own technology right? We mapped our own genome not to terribly long ago. Magnetic forces are easily manipulated. We've contained "anti-matter" even. Fast-forward another decade or two without mammoth banks and/or corporate entities on our backs...

Should be interesting to say the least.

I would like to address the second question. I believe there are many more Universes out there.

In the most recent study on pre-Big Bang science posted at arXiv.org, a team of researchers from the UK, Canada, and the US, Stephen M. Feeney, et al, have revealed that they have discovered four statistically unlikely circular patterns in the cosmic microwave background (CMB). The researchers think that these marks could be “bruises” that our universe has incurred from being bumped four times by other universes. If they turn out to be correct, it would be the first evidence that universes other than ours do exist. The idea that there are many other universes out there is not new, as scientists have previously suggested that we live in a “multiverse” consisting of an infinite number of universes. The multiverse concept stems from the idea of eternal inflation, in which the inflationary period that our universe went through right after the Big Bang was just one of many inflationary periods that different parts of space were and are still undergoing. When one part of space undergoes one of these dramatic growth spurts, it balloons into its own universe with its own physical properties. As its name suggests, eternal inflation occurs an infinite number of times, creating an infinite number of universes, resulting in the multiverse.

phys.org...

what do I have in my pocket ?

reply to post by Americanist


I'm sorry you are unable to watch the video as it is worth the watch. I'm aware of everything you have stated but all of that information answers neither of the 2 questions


reply to post by Bedlam


That's what I was thinking about the particle "vibration" from love etc.

and yes I can agree that there is no less than one but the question is how many are there?


reply to post by Iamschist


I too believe that there is more than one but at this point according to the video we don't know how many there actually are.. we can only assume that it's somewhere between 0 and infinite. The part that I found interesting on top of that was when the video claims multiple dimensions of our universe...how does that affect the total possible number of universes?

reply to post by syrinx high priest


Cheeky..but at the very least your pocket has air in it!

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
what do I have in my pocket ?

A snub nosed .38?

"What have I got in my pocket?" he asked.

"Let me see, let me see!" the creature shouted.

He obliged by pulling his snub nosed .38 out of his pocket and emptying the clip in the creature's direction.

He would have finished him off, but a wave of pity stayed his hand. "It's a pity I've run out of bullets," he thought.

Originally posted by Bedlam

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
what do I have in my pocket ?

A snub nosed .38?

"What have I got in my pocket?" he asked.

"Let me see, let me see!" the creature shouted.

He obliged by pulling his snub nosed .38 out of his pocket and emptying the clip in the creature's direction.

He would have finished him off, but a wave of pity stayed his hand. "It's a pity I've run out of bullets," he thought.

reply to post by syrinx high priest


Cheeky..but at the very least your pocket has air in it!





my bad, I blew the line

"What have I got in my pocket?" he said aloud. He was talking to himself, but Gollum thought it was a riddle, and he was frightfully upset.

"Not fair! not fair!" he hissed. "It isn't fair, my precious, is it, to ask us what it's got in its nassty little pocketses?"

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reply to post by syrinx high priest


I'm not sure what movie quotes have to do with the topic of the thread??

I was hoping members would be more interested in trying to answer the two questions posed..oh well I guess

reply to post by Ericthenewbie


f&s

lol
in answer to the question about the universe[s]

i'll just quote my 1st post ever on ATS
from an Arken thread:
A Galaxies Cluster Older Than Possible! Scientists say. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
From a Doctor Who novel i finished last night:



The Doctor took back the mug and stood it on the tables
beside one of the laptops. ‘Ever heard of o-regions?’
Nesbitt shook his head. ‘You?’ he asked Lansing and Phillipps. Neither
of them had.
‘Pity.’ The Doctor dipped his finger tentatively into the mug, snatching
it away almost immediately. ‘An o-region is a part of space that
is so far out, so isolated from everywhere else that its light hasn’t yet
reached the rest of the universe. They’re big,’ he went on. ‘And being
isolated, they are in effect mini-universes in their own right. If you
can conceive of a mini-universe.’
...‘There is an infinite number of o-regions, each developing
Iike a mini-universe in its own way. And since you could, in theory –
though I wouldn’t recommend that you try – work out every possible
collision point and potential change in our own universe to date, that
means that there’s only a finite number of possible histories. Huge,
but finite.’
‘And what does that mean?’ Nesbitt said.
‘It means that every possible version of history that you can imagine
will occur.’ The Doctor grinned. ‘In fact, given the rather strange way
that maths with infinity works, it means that every possible version of
history will actually occur an infinite number of times.’
‘Er,’ Nesbitt hesitated, ‘is this strictly relevant?’
The Doctor shook his head. He was still smiling, but his smile faded
as he spoke. ‘Not strictly, no. But I’m trying to gain your confidence
and respect, remember. Trying to convince you that I know what I’m
talking about and that you should act. It’s not strictly relevant, more
sort of tangential. And fascinating. And frightening too, don’t you
think? Consider how fragile and thin our own reality must be.’

Doctor Who BBC860 - Time Zero
Justin Richards
2002



maybe the Kosmos is a lot bigger than we "think"=[beleive]
maybe a lot different too.
long time lurker: signed up cause of the synchronicity. the above was the first thing i thought
might also explain the evidence of other universes

HNY 2011

edit on 31-12-2010 by DerepentLEstranger because: momentarily fastidious about punctuation

what a pompous ass "no one on earth knows the answer..." He's poled all 7 billion people? Or is the idea if you are not an academic, and can't prove something via their method you have no place in the reality of question answering? And what makes the question even meaningful at all?

How many universes are there? The problem with the people he wants to answer that question is they believe "time" is something more then an illusion, so they try to prove things with time as the foundation, when in fact time is the problem, not the answer. Eliminate time, and understand that all things happen at the same moment, then the answer to the universe question changes.

My point is, this question is largely stupid, to those who understand more then those who limit themselves to his system of thinking. The "no body on earth knows the answer" is so incredibly condescending as it comes off as a statement made by a 10 year old boy and not an adult with any sense of himself beyond that which "science" has told him.

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reply to post by crankyoldman


Thanks for both your contributions to the discussion, much appreciated.

DerepentLEstranger: I get the point being made.. is there more information available on the "o-region" theory outside of Doctor Who?

crankyoldman: Can you further expand your hypothesis on the time or lack there of concept, I'd like to hear more.

reply to post by Ericthenewbie


Time is more a temporary condition. A non linear, timeless, soul expression decides to place itself, or rather an aspect of itself, in a "game" where limitations and arbitrary rules are established. Think video game and avatar. The soul expression's avatar - you/your personality, is then subject to the rules of the game. In this case we are in the earth plane game, whereby this thing called "time" regulates events that take place in the game. No problem with it, it is just a game. Our brains are the primary "controller" that is used to negotiate the game. The limitations of the brain make playing the game tolerable and interesting. Really thing video game here: Program, avatar (certain limitations chosen) rules, objective, game controller, with no way to escape outside the game. If you want, you can play another game but the rules of the old game do not apply to the new.

Outside the game there are no rules per se, only other games to play, some of which may have a kind of time, or others (far more common) just end when they end. Read some of the books or threads on people consciously negotiating a non-body, non-linear experience (OOB) and notice they all lack a time limitation (Monroe's books are good, Bruce's as well). In a non-body, non-brain, experience another set of rules apply, time isn't one of them as it is totally connected to the body/brain/earth avatar and is NOT a universal anything.

The problem here for "science" is that when the church (its own evil I know) was separated off from "science" the - conscience or con-science, was also separated off as a viable tool for understanding the self. This means that science will only accept what can be shown to them via an outside, repeatable scenario. The flaw here is there is NOTHING outside, it is all inside. The creator self is all there is and there is nothing beyond it (though it keeps expanding - imploding? itself to new levels with each thought). So, to know something other then "time" is to see INSIDE not to be shown timelessness "outside."

To add more fuel to the fire here, the things that "science" keeps discovering are not universal things, but rules of the game. In some cases, they are discovering the "game code." But the game codes are a temporary limitation set up to have a unique experience, the codes are not universal at all - in some corners of consciousness the idea of math is funny and quaint, and totally wrong. Much of what we need to "prove" are things that cannot be proven at all, they are things you come to KNOW. You cannot be "shown" timelessness, you come to know it via your own personal experience. You are not shown "all the universes" but you come to KNOW what a universe is relative to your own personal evolutionary path - it is personal, unique, and remarkable. The travesty of approved science and the horrifying scientific method, is that the process all but ended the personal internal path to understand self and replaced it with some silly method as a way of defining the grandness of self.

reply to post by crankyoldman


By no means do I have any expertise in the fields of science but how does your theory relate to Sylvester James Gates, Jr. discovery of the strange computer code discovered concealed In superstring equations ?