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Originally posted by purplemer
Ok so it is ok for you to know how North Koreans live and judge them. Yet you dont like it when it happens to you...
Originally posted by gemdog
the most sad thing is that the 'people' and the 'government' are 2 very different things, and we should always, as human beings, try to help those in need. But we are sadly selfish creatures, and in the end, we often just do whatever personally benefits us most.
thus we end up saying "why should I? not my fault, not My problem."
Sad.edit on 13-4-2012 by gemdog because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MattNC
First off, let's get to some root-cause factors: North Korea can't figure out how to feed it's own people yet it spends money on military projects. And let's say, for the sake of argument, that this rocket was strictly for scientific purposes. Why not ask the US or Russia for imaging they need? Would have been much cheaper. It should not be up to the US to bail out every country that can't figure out how to run itself.
Second: the U.S. said, "Hey NK, don't shoot off that "projectile" or we'll cut off your food supply."
NK fired it anyway.
So how is the US the bad guys in this situation?
Originally posted by DrNotforhire
this was a good move, im sick of North Korea not playing by the rules we set them... and now their will be consequences... I actually agree with move
First positive thing I've said about the Obama cabinet for awhile!
The Obama Administration’s $1.4 billion request for PL 480 Title II is based on the premise of reducing
[Article Summarized by Meridian Institute] The Obama administration is working to build upon and strengthen the 2009 L’Aquila commitments on global food security as part of a proposal that will be presented to G-8 leaders at their Camp David meeting in May. According to Tjada McKenna, the deputy coordinator for development at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID)’s Feed the Future program, “President Obama has led efforts to address global hunger issues ranging from the recent food crisis to acute hunger and malnutrition. The president’s leadership was central to the G-8’s historic L’Aquila commitments on food security.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by gemdog
the most sad thing is that the 'people' and the 'government' are 2 very different things, and we should always, as human beings, try to help those in need. But we are sadly selfish creatures, and in the end, we often just do whatever personally benefits us most.
thus we end up saying "why should I? not my fault, not My problem."
Sad.edit on 13-4-2012 by gemdog because: (no reason given)
The issue here is not that it's not our problem and Americans are not more selfish than anyone else, in fact who opens their pockets first when disaster stikes, ohhh Haiti, Indonesia, etc. Remember the tsunamis? We always wonder where the money really went. Even with Red Cross and such, a certain portion goes to administrative costs. Do you think those Red Cross people work for free? Who pays those UN Blue Helmets to go there and work? Why it's the US sending our money to the UN. People are so foolish and naive about the NWO and how it operates.
The issue is that TPTB create the problems then provide their world govt solutions. Invariably it's the US taxpayers that pick up the tab. Now more specifically with N Korea, not only is it not our problem or our fault, but we morally should not be financially propping up any communist country, but we gave loans to Russia for grain when their communist system was failing, when their collective farming failed to produce the amounts of grain they had formally produced. The failure of centralized control should never be propped up and it will still fail even after.
Now we are trying to still prop up centralized communist control in foreign countries while trying to keep our own boat afloat while the communist and socialist within our own borders are eating the seed corn.
There is no reason to hide the failure of N Korea's communist policies.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Germanicus
As I recall, it was a World War and Germany lost. As a cooperative of forces, all the free world won. But then we later found out that Russia was sending it's own people to the gulags. General Patton knew. He knew then that Russia was not to be trusted. The KGB and the Politburo kept a lot of stuff sealed until after the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Originally posted by MissCoyote
Its been a very long time since i made a thread but honestly come on I am so ashamed of my country right now because the leader wanted to fire a "ROCKET" we are going to starve the people WoW I am so undeniable proud of the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. Honestly when our Sheep finally wake up the governments going to be in a world of hurt by its own civil war.
Originally posted by MissCoyote
STOP CALLING IT A MISSILE PEOPLE
"Initial indications are that the first stage of the missile fell into the sea 165 km west of Seoul, South Korea," they said in a news release. "The remaining stages were assessed to have failed and no debris fell on land. At no time were the missile or the resultant debris a threat."
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by milominderbinder
I remember well the movie "Patton" and how our generals attended a celebration party with the Ruskies and how Patton was not so friendly because he knew.
Originally posted by lokdog
So a few million North Koreans are gonna starve, i don't care. I will lose no sleep over this, infact i'm going to lay down right now with a big smile on my face and be thankfull that i have food a plenty and a roof over my head. While i'm at it i'm gonna give thank's to the super evil USA that makes it possible for me to live better than 90% of the rest of the world. Mmmm sweet dreams ya'll.
As an armchair guesstimate I would venture to say that 90% of this thread views food aid to N. Korea as "welfare",